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i would like to see how far T34 and Su 100 of Vn army can managed to survive after being hit with cheap RPG, let alone the more modern RPG29 or NLAW
So let me translate this for you, in case you don't understand.

well-placed pre-aimed 85mm round from a concealed T-34.
Bold: Meaning we have zeroed the coordinate of the target way before they arrive, along with reconnaissance for better updates of the enemy movement.
Underline: In other word, "Ambush" and "cannot be easily seen". Didn't know any RPG system that can hit an unknown target at 500-600m, let alone 1-2km. Remember, the enemy fights on our own turf, not the other way around.

I don't understand why you Indo people speak highly of the AMX-13 and downplay the T-34, while they both serve the same role and purpose in modern warfare? And I didn't even mention you AMX-13 yet. :undecided:
 
So let me translate this for you, in case you don't understand.


Bold: Meaning we have zeroed the coordinate of the target way before they arrive, along with reconnaissance for better updates of the enemy movement.
Underline: In other word, "Ambush" and "cannot be easily seen". Didn't know any RPG system that can hit an unknown target at 500-600m, let alone 1-2km. Remember, the enemy fights on our own turf, not the other way around.

I don't understand why you Indo people speak highly of the AMX-13 and downplay the T-34, while they both serve the same role and purpose in modern warfare? And I didn't even mention you AMX-13 yet. :undecided:

is much more easier to conceal man with RPG and ATGM than man with recoilles rifle

nah my amx thingy is an answer for the guy who called amx can destroy anything
 
is much more easier to conceal man with RPG and ATGM than man with recoilles rifle
True, but RPG lacks the range while ATGM lacks the flexibility and cannot perform NLOS attack.

And yes, I'm talking about SACLOS ATGM like Konkurs and Kornet, not something we don't have like Spike NLOS.
 
Are you serious? Tank destroyer? :rofl:

Which ATGM they are equipped with? Ever you seen images of modern tank destroyers? Let me do a favor to you, and show you how modern tank destroyer look like.

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bit off topic, is NAMICA an indian tank destroyer ? is there any thread in PDF i can look into, thanks



Scrap the tanks for cash & take the guns. Problem solved. I just solved your soldiers equipment problem.

If you thinking about facing China a tank like the T-34 should be the last thing you need. You need to focus more on asymmetrical warfare. Using your soldiers as cannon fodder in an obsolete tanks is not the best way to engage China.



Do RPG means nothing you? T-34 is close combat tank while the AMX can snipe any target from a longer distance.


by this logic all IFV and BMP's are useless, AMX is only good as far it can see "unhindered" , T34 are known to be nimble & agile who performed exceptional in muddy and dense Terran, they can dig up well camouflaged positions and land the first strike. both chinese and USA underestimated Vietnam and payed the price.
 
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I would like to see how "modern" IFV and APC, like BMP-2/3 and/or Bradley.. etc.. survive against a well-placed pre-aimed 85mm round from a concealed T-34.

Period.

Edit: I think people would prefer to stay inside a tank with 85mm gun, rather than staying outside against enemy armored vehicles with a 7.62mm assault rifle.

No modern army will give you the satisfaction of firing a shot. Even from an ambushed position. Scouts & Drones makes such scenario less likely. A sucker punch from a T-34 isn't enough to knock down most IFV because of better protection.

M2A3 bradley protection:
○Spaced armor.
○30mm Alluminium ADSP protection ○Reactive Armor.

Also most modern IFV have TOW missiles for support against larger vehicle:

The problem with your doctrine is that it rely too much on circumstances. In an outright fight 9/10 the bradley will win every engagement against an older T-series tank. Ask Saddam.

(Last T-34 post I swear)
 
No modern army will give you the satisfaction of firing a shot. Even from an ambushed position. Scouts & Drones makes such scenario less likely. A sucker punch from a T-34 isn't enough to knock down most IFV because of better protection.

M2A3 bradley protection:
○Spaced armor.
○30mm Alluminium ADSP protection ○Reactive Armor.

Also most modern IFV have TOW missiles for support against larger vehicle:

The problem with your doctrine is that it rely too much on circumstances. In an outright fight 9/10 the bradley will win every engagement against an older T-series tank. Ask Saddam.

(Last T-34 post I swear)

I suggest you stop talking about T-34 vs this or that here. And recommend that you start the thread with that title.
That provide you more room to argue and save us some pages for news and pictures.
Thanks
 
No modern army will give you the satisfaction of firing a shot. Even from an ambushed position. Scouts & Drones makes such scenario less likely. A sucker punch from a T-34 isn't enough to knock down most IFV because of better protection.(Last T-34 post I swear)

Laughable, wow, now in modern warfare there no is such thing as camouflage and hiding, UAVs have X rays now, they can see everything from afar.

I would like to see how "modern" IFV and APC, like BMP-2/3 and/or Bradley.. etc.. survive against a well-placed pre-aimed 85mm round from a concealed T-34.

Period.

Edit: I think people would prefer to stay inside a tank with 85mm gun, rather than staying outside against enemy armored vehicles with a 7.62mm assault rifle.

85mm? Oh that's even better, I had read in wiki that it was 76mm, maybe an earlier version. And 45mm armor in most places is not bad at all.

So let me translate this for you, in case you don't understand.

Even with translation she is a bit hard headed. Don't expect results.
 
The problem with your doctrine is that it rely too much on circumstances. In an outright fight 9/10 the bradley will win every engagement against an older T-series tank. Ask Saddam.

(Last T-34 post I swear)

The problem is, unlike Iraq, Vietnam is not a desert, ask General Giap.

I suggest you stop talking about T-34 vs this or that here. And recommend that you start the thread with that title.
That provide you more room to argue and save us some pages for news and pictures.
Thanks

I'm done boss.
 
bit off topic, is NAMICA an indian tank destroyer ? is there any thread in PDF i can look into, thanks






by this logic all IFV and BMP's are useless, AMX is only good as far it can see "unhindered" , T34 are known to be nimble & agile who performed exceptional in muddy and dense Terran, they can dig up well camouflaged positions and land the first strike. both chinese and USA underestimated Vietnam and payed the price.
You find the details from here
http://trishul-trident.blogspot.in/2016/02/s-2arihant-ssbn-showcased-in-ifr-2016.html

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i would like to see how far T34 and Su 100 of Vn army can managed to survive after being hit with cheap RPG, let alone the more modern RPG29 or NLAW




oh sure it is an excellent tank destroyer

this thin little can had proved their value against the supposed superior T54/55 in Six day War
Seriously? And it was not Centurion that pitted against T-55?
 
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How ground troops are trained in Vietnam

TUOI TRE NEWS
UPDATED : 08/27/2016 06:27 GMT + 7


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All soldiers in the Vietnam People’s Ground Force are faced with several years of hard work and intense trainings before they can secure a spot in the military unit.


Located in Bien Hoa City in the southern province of Dong Nai, Nguyen Hue University, under the management of the Ministry of National Defense, is the long-time training center for ground troop candidates in southern Vietnam.

The schools top graduates move on to new missions following several years of challenging and demanding training.

Lieutenant Pham Van Ngan, one of the outstanding senior students at the academy, recounted his fear of midnight sirens during his first days as a trainee.

“The warning sound was a way to forge the soldiers’ agility, patience, and perseverance. We were required to be in uniform and ready to go in the swiftest and most unified manner possible,” Lt. Ngan said.

The drill has become an instant reaction to the solider whenever he hears the siren. “It has become a natural reflect for us, he said.”

Aside from compliance with strict regulations and disciplinary measures, the trainees are also required to undergo strenuous exercise to sharpen their endurance and will, according to Lt. Ngan.

The soldiers were ordered to balance themselves on one leg before switching to the other every three minutes. The exercise repeated for an entire hour.

“We could not even lift our legs as we climbed onto our bed after the workout,” the lieutenant recalled as he giggled.

Students who majored as infantry scouts were also trained on crossing extreme terrains, breaking into buildings, and disarming traps and bombs, he added.


Marching is a ‘specialty’

According to many foot soldiers, marching is the most memorable experience from training.

Lieutenant Le Van Tung, another trainee with excellent performance, recounted that he and his teammates sometimes had to walk for two hours without resting.

“We were ordered to march along rough and muddy paths in the middle of the night with heavy baggage on our backs. No one was allowed to fall out of line for fear they might get lost,” Lt. Tung stated.

Despite the pain and hard work, excitement ran high throughout the training course, he continued.

Tung considered his tactic course the most challenging subject during his training and all candidates were required to pass the course in order to graduate.

According to Colonel Pham Ngoc Chung, a lecturer at the university with 12 years of experience, tactical lessons are the primary focus of the school, as they determine the quality of graduates following their study.

“The students are evaluated based on their leadership and skills with weaponry. They are trained with real guns and bullets under all conditions and need serious determination to pass the course,” Col. Chung assessed.

Digging tunnels and camouflaging are also thought to be physically demanding to the foot soldiers, the military colonel said, adding that instructors at the academy are strict in their judgment.
 
This guy could handle subs and sea mines quite well.
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Song Thu Company completes Tran Dai Nghia ship
PANO - Saturday, November 26, 2011, 20:18 (GMT+7)

PANO – The Song Thu One-member Co. Ltd., under the General Department of National Defence Industry, yesterday handed over the HSV- 6613 ( HQ-888 ) oceanographic ship named after the Professor and Academician, Tran Dai Nghia, to the Navy Arm in Da Nang City.
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Latest pic of the reclamation at Spratly island

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A new model of Vietnamese indigenous UAV has appeared. It's called "UAV-04".

Its main purpose is flying target for Su-30MK2V and S-300PMU-2. However, it can be fitted with several reconnaissance equipment (Luneberg lens, Synthetic Aperture Radar, Imaging Camera etc.) and even a warhead. So it can be a suicide UAV or mini cruise missile, you name it.

The range is 300km+, max speed 250kph, flight endurance up to 5 hours and flight ceiling is 4km.

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A new model of Vietnamese indigenous UAV has appeared. It's called "UAV-04".

Its main purpose is flying target for Su-30MK2V and S-300PMU-2. However, it can be fitted with several reconnaissance equipment (Luneberg lens, Synthetic Aperture Radar, Imaging Camera etc.) and even a warhead. So it can be a suicide UAV or mini cruise missile, you name it.

The range is 300km+, max speed 250kph, flight endurance up to 5 hours and flight ceiling is 4km.

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KguX6wK.jpg
i see a lot photo with comcom tag, who is he? a military reporter?
 

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