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China didn't even use nukes on Vietnam back in 1979 where China suffered the shortcomings of equipment and fighting experience.

Back then, China only got nukes, but its conventional weapons were weaker than Vietnam's.
Because China doesn't dare to use the nuclear weapon, Vietnam was a part of Warsaw Pact. If China uses their nuclear weapon USSR would do similar to China. It is the conventional war, China attack first. Vietnam only defends their territories. And China was not defeated. I wonder If China was defeated and then Vietnam attacked China border, the Chinese government should think they can use the neuclear weapon!
 
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Viet, no offense, I don't want to see dead Vietnamese, they are after all our cultural cousins. You have no chance to even face the Chinese Navy, just submit and cooperate.
No thanks. Being a part of evil Chinese empire for 1,000 years is enough. You have endless opportunities for cooperation with Vietnam, it is up to you to grab the chance. Playing policy of intimidation will never take any effect on us.
 
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No thanks. Being a part of evil Chinese empire for 1,000 years is enough. You have endless opportunities for cooperation with Vietnam, it is up to you to grab the chance. Playing policy of intimidation will never take any effect on us.
buddy, don't too provoke, he has kindness when he advised us, although we hate Chinese government, but I don't think we have reasons to hate all of the Chinese. Chinese has good, bad people like Vietnam has
 
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Because China doesn't dare to use the nuclear weapon, Vietnam was a part of Warsaw Pact. If China uses their nuclear weapon USSR would do similar to China. It is the conventional war, China attack first. Vietnam only defends their territories. And China was not defeated. I wonder If China was defeated and then Vietnam attacked China border, the Chinese government should think they can use the neuclear weapon!

Not really, even China did nuke Vietnam in 1979, USSR still wouldn't do anything. Because they could completely annihilate China in a nuclear war, but they would also lose more than half of their cities and industrial bases by China's nuclear retaliation.

Trust me, USSR always considered those East European countries as their first class allies, while Vietnam as a second class ally. And I don't think they would risk that much for the behalf of Vietnam.
 
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Not really, even China did nuke Vietnam in 1979, USSR still wouldn't do anything. Because they could completely annihilate China in a nuclear war, but they would also lose more than half of their cities and industrial bases by China's nuclear retaliation.

Trust me, USSR always considered those East European countries as their first class allies, while Vietnam as a second class ally. And I don't think they would risk that much for the behalf of Vietnam.

Wish you could keep this as your own thinking. as no one could prove it.
 
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buddy, don't too provoke, he has kindness when he advised us, although we hate Chinese government, but I don't think we have reasons to hate all of the Chinese. Chinese has good, bad people like Vietnam has
Just stating my opinion. I hate arrogance and aggression.
 
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Vietnam fishermen team up to secure fishing grounds from Chinese attackers

http://tuoitrenews.vn/society/36337...secure-fishing-grounds-from-chinese-attackers

TUOI TRE NEWS

UPDATED : 08/05/2016 10:38 GMT + 7

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Vietnam’s fishing crews are joining forces at sea to ensure safety from Chinese assaults and resist violations of Vietnamese sovereign waters.

Fishing boats operating near the Hoang Sa (Paracel) archipelago have begun operating in large groups, hoping that a ‘power in numbers’ approach will deter Chinese ships from pursuing Vietnamese fishing boats.

Despite growing safety concerns, fishermen operating in the area refuse to abandon their livelihood and retreat from Vietnam’s valid and legal claim of authority over the archipelago and its surrounding seas.

Local fishing boat captains hope that operating in cooperation with other Vietnamese fishermen will protect both their crews and equipment from assaults similar to the dozens of Chinese attacks that have been reported over the last few years.

Nguyen Van Phu, captain and owner of fishing ship QNg 90657 from the central province of Quang Ngai, reported that four instances of harassment from Chinese vessels during a recent weeklong journey forced his crew to limit their fishing operations to only two nights over the course of their seven days at sea.

According to the captain, he spent most of the time steering his boat away from Chinese perpetrators.

“We leant quickly to hide from the vessels after spotting them from a distance. We wouldn’t be able to escape,” Phu said.

Phu still considers himself lucky, noting that in June last year his boat was assaulted by four Chinese ships while operating in the maritime area.

The attackers stole Phu’s catch and destroyed his fishing equipment, causing VND750 million (US$33,637) in total damages.

According to Nguyen Chi Thanh, another local fisher, Chinese vessels often head into Vietnam’s waters between May and September each year, the primary fishing season for Vietnamese fishermen.

Despite repeated encounters with the Chinese, many ending in harassment and robbery, Thanh remains persistent in carrying out his operations at sea.

The fisher recalled an incident last year when his boat was rammed and had its property plundered by two Chinese vessels.

“I’ve encountered them up to 20 times since the beginning of this year but was able to escape before they could approach us,” Thanh said.

Vo Van Luu, 50, whose boat was sunk by a Chinese vessel on July 9 near Hoang Sa, expressed his resentment, asserting that he would sue the culprits and demand compensation.

“I have fallen victim to such violence every year for the past three years. They often form a fleet of two vessels and a speedboat to pursue Vietnamese targets,” Luu stated.

Chinese fishing boats operating illegally in Vietnam’s waters are often accompanied by a coast guard vessel, said Vo Sy Toan, a 55-year-old fisherman from Quang Ngai.

“They usually anchor five to seven nautical miles away from fishing ships to offer protection when necessary,” Toan elaborated.
 
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Wish you could keep this as your own thinking. as no one could approve it.

Just look at South Korea, when they declared the THAAD installation, so many protests has been manifested by their own people.

Because most of their people know that THAAD would make them a target prone to China and Russia if the war outbreaks with the US. And they still don't trust their defense treaty with the US on the paper. Otherwise, they wouldn't consider that THAAD has put them in danger.
 
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Just look at South Korea, when they declared the THAAD installation, so many protests has been manifested by their own people.

Because most of their people know that THAAD would make them a target prone to China and Russia if the war outbreaks with the US. And they still don't trust their defense treaty with the US on the paper. Otherwise, they wouldn't consider that THAAD has put them in danger.
Tiger, we are reading, hearing of S Korean protests because protests are allowed and reported in media in SK. If China allowed protests, we would see mass protesters every day. Xi Jinping won't be amused.

SK decides for Thaad because she fears NK and...no surprise...mistrusts China.
 
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Tiger, we are reading, hearing of S Korean protests because protests are allowed and reported in media in SK. If China allowed protests, we would see mass protesters every day. Xi Jinping won't be amused.

SK decides for Thaad because she fears NK and...no surprise...mistrusts China.

Heck, China has never risked its own national security at the hand of a foreign country.

So, why should the Chinese people protest?
 
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Heck, China has never risked its own national security at the hand of a foreign country.

So, why should the Chinese people protest?
all 1.4 billion chinese have the same thought, the same wish to defend the perceived territory at all costs?

that reminds me of "Gleichschaltung" in Germany some time ago.

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all 1.4 billion chinese have the same thought, the same wish to defend the perceived territory at all costs?

that reminds me of "Gleichschaltung" in Germany some time ago.

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We defend our sovereignty, while the Nazi Germany invaded other countries.

Apple to orange.
 
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We defend our sovereignty, while the Nazi Germany invaded other countries.

Apple to orange.
Defending what sovereignty?

Do you mean yours over the South China Sea?

I am tired to repeat over and over to you and other Chinese liars. Fact is China has never exercised sovereignty over the sea in the last 3,000 years. Everything you say you write is fake. Your "historic rights" has no standing in the international laws. Saying you were the first who discovered the sea is an insult for all people. Your 9 dash line is a brand new invention in the last century.

I can understand if you say Manchuria, Mongolia, Tibet, Taiwan are Chinese territories, sovereignty. Do you feel the pain that Russia still occupies a large part of China as war booty? But 90% of the South China Sea is yours? Hey you never control it in whole for a single day in history.

Yes declaring our EEZ waters as yours is an act of aggression. Yes brainwashing 1.4 billion Chinese with the 9 dash line is Gleichschaltung. Are they all willing to die for a fake story?
 
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Defending what sovereignty?

Do you mean yours over the South China Sea?

I am tired to repeat over and over to you and other Chinese liars. Fact is China has never exercised sovereignty over the sea in the last 3,000 years. Everything you say you write is fake. Your "historic rights" has no standing in the international laws. Saying you were the first who discovered the sea is an insult for all people. Your 9 dash line is a brand new invention in the last century.

I can understand if you say Manchuria, Mongolia, Tibet, Taiwan are Chinese territories, sovereignty. But 90% of the South China Sea is yours? Hey you never control it in whole for a single day in history.

Yes declaring our EEZ waters as yours is an act of aggression. Yes brainwashing 1.4 billion Chinese with the 9 dash line is Gleichschaltung. Are they all willing to die for a fake story?

We have just to ensure that the SCS to become the stronghold for our SSBNs. This is a concern about our national security.

We know you want the oil, we can share with you no problem, but the base of our SSBNs must be absolutely safe.
 
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We have just to ensure that the SCS to become the stronghold for our SSBNs. This is a concern about our national security.

We know you want the oil, we can share with you no problem, but the base of our SSBNs must be absolutely safe.
Lol do you think we are happy if you throw a one dollar coin at us?

What a delusion!

What we want is to command over our waters. That ensures our national security. We care of our naval assets, while you yours. That is the deal. Why should we take care of your nuclear subs?
 
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