Vietnam Defence Forum

[Aepsilons]

I dont know, but India never accepted S300, S400 system, it never met Indian Forces requirement. Dont know about the problems, but thats true. India never likes the S-series. Instead want to go with Israel.

The S series is arguably pragmatic choice, its efficient. However, the decision to go with the israeli platforms is also a great decision. Their arrow series and the joint Barak program is world class, imho.

 

[Carlosa]

what about this.

I tell you, advanced version of this is most suitable for VN as light frigate.

What's the name of that babe? Gorgeous !!!!!!

 

[Aepsilons]

what about this.

I tell you, advanced version of this is most suitable for VN as light frigate.

Vietnam needs at least 6 light destroyers / heavy frigates to secure her vast coastline. The beauty of the Bazan Class is that it not only has formidable anti ship capability, but its air defense role is an envy in the NATO Flotilla.

What's the name of that babe? Gorgeous !!!!!!

Saar 5 Class , she's a Heavy Corvette of the Israeli Navy.

 

[kaku1]

The S series is arguably pragmatic choice, its efficient. However, the decision to go with the israeli platforms is also a great decision. Their arrow series and the joint Barak program is world class, imho.

The S series is best to counter ballistic targets and high altitude fighters, but this is not suitable for engaging fighters at cruise altitude and cruise missiles. Even compare that how much g force S-system can sustain in comparison to other. Its pathetic.

But for ballistic engagement India developing BMD system, again with the help of Israeli radar. Green Pine.

 

[Carlosa]

Precisely, it can be considered a light destroyer, i mean, it already has the firepower of one.

Another beautiful (yet Powerful) ship is the Bazan Class of the Spanish Navy. Its bristling in air defense capabilities.

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Yes, very similar to the German frigate, actually, same weapon system, just different radars (the American AEGIS system in this case).

Heavy frigate, light destroyer, same thing. The capability of the weapon system is what counts and its the same in both cases.

Vietnam needs at least 6 light destroyers / heavy frigates to secure her vast coastline. The beauty of the Bazan Class is that it not only has formidable anti ship capability, but its air defense role is an envy in the NATO Flotilla..

Well, the Bazan destroyer is the only full AEGIS system in Europe and it was integrated in a smaller ship and at half the price of an American AEGIS destroyer, not bad Spain

 

[kaku1]

Vietnam needs at least 6 light destroyers / heavy frigates to secure her vast coastline. The beauty of the Bazan Class is that it not only has formidable anti ship capability, but its air defense role is an envy in the NATO Flotilla.

Yes, but a 6000+ tonne frigate would be an overkill in VN. And its also lot of expensive.

 

[Carlosa]

Saar 5 Class , she's a Heavy Corvette of the Israeli Navy.

The Saar 5 Class is definitely a very nice ship, small but deadly.

 

[Aepsilons]

Yes, very similar to the German frigate, actually, same weapon system, just different radars (the American AEGIS system in this case).

Heavy frigate, light destroyer, same thing. The capability of the weapon system is what counts and its the same in both cases.

That's the closest thing to an AEGIS system that Vietnam can get while in reasonable price range. Bazan Class, she's f@cking impressive, dude. When i was in JMSDF, during escort fleet duties, our ship coordinated with the Alvaro de Bazan near the Horn of Africa.

One doesn't hear much about Spanish Navy, not so much publicity, but their presence is known in around the Horn of Africa / Persian Gulf.

 

[Carlosa]

Yes, but a 6000+ tonne frigate would be an overkill in VN. And its also lot of expensive.

The heavy frigate that VN is planning will be around 4500 tons, that's enough.
Yes, 6000 tons is overkill (sorry Viet).

 

[Aepsilons]

Well, the Bazan destroyer is the only full AEGIS system in Europe and it was integrated in a smaller ship and at half the price of an American AEGIS destroyer, not bad Spain

Definitely. And Spain has 6 of these ship of the line in active service. By far one of the largest active 'heavy frigates' / 'light destroyers' of AEGIS platform in the entire European naval forces. Not even Germany, France or Britain fields that many AEGIS system.

Like i said, Spanish Navy is silent, but f@cking deadly.

 

[Carlosa]

That's the closest thing to an AEGIS system that Vietnam can get while in reasonable price range. Bazan Class, she's f@cking impressive, dude. When i was in JMSDF, during escort fleet duties, our ship coordinated with the Alvaro de Bazan near the Horn of Africa.

One doesn't hear much about Spanish Navy, not so much publicity, but their presence is known in around the Horn of Africa / Persian Gulf.

Totally agree, but it will be a while before USA will agree to give that tech to Vietnam.

Definitely. And Spain has 6 of these ship of the line in active service. By far one of the largest active 'heavy frigates' / 'light destroyers' of AEGIS platform in the entire European naval forces. Not even Germany, France or Britain fields that many AEGIS system.

Like i said, Spanish Navy is silent, but f@cking deadly.

Ha ha, very true, we need to watch out for those Moroccans man.

 

[BoQ77]

Totally agree, but it will be a while before USA will agree to give that tech to Vietnam.
Ha ha, very true, we need to watch out for those Moroccans man.

If it's available, I suggest Vietnam should buy 3 nuclear submarines from USA.
Virginia-class Block V for example.

 

[Aepsilons]

On the Alvaro de Bazan Class of the Royal Spanish Navy,

 

[Carlosa]

If it's available, I suggest Vietnam should buy few nuclear submarines from USA.

1.8 billion a piece man. I don't think that will ever be available to Vietnam. Frankly, I don't think they are cost effective for Vietnam and they are more noisy than a good conventional sub.

 

[Aepsilons]

Totally agree, but it will be a while before USA will agree to give that tech to Vietnam.

I agree. Vietnamese - US - NATO relations would have to warm to strategic partner level before anything happens. But hey, we can still admire , LOL!