Vietnam Backs U.S. Role in South China Sea, Rebuffing Beijing

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Yes, bring back south Vietnam to north Vietnam, again and again.

So you're asking us to split you again and again? Sure thing!

 

[cochine]

So you're asking us to split you again and again? Sure thing!

China is losser in this game.
USA gone away 1975 and we had reunited the country. China is still crying before Taiwan now.

 

[S10]

China is losser in this game.
USA gone away 1975 and we had reunited the country. China is still crying before Taiwan now.

That can change very quickly if we wanted. Maybe we will rule you for another thousand years.

 

[Suika]

That can change very quickly if we wanted. Maybe we will rule you for another thousand years.

If China invades Vietnam again, the Vietnamese will trap the PRC hand of pride in that mouse trap and gnaw away at the PLA Army flesh week by week. Japan should invoke collective self-defense to not leave Vietnam alone in a fight with PRC bully. JASDF can be sent to assist in providing air cover. The JMSDF can safely cut PRC sea lanes of communication outside the 1st island chain. Japan would then back Vietnam's claims in the East Sea and Vietnam will yield the most eastward side of the sea to the claims to the Philippines. Should the PRC respond by attacking Japan itself, the US comes in gloves off.

The PRC should enjoy healthy prosperous growth without ambitions of 9 dash line claim, claim on Senkaku islands, and claim on Taiwan.

 

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If China invades Vietnam again, the Vietnamese will trap the PRC hand of pride in that mouse trap and gnaw away at the PLA Army flesh week by week. Japan should invoke collective self-defense to not leave Vietnam alone in a fight with PRC bully. JASDF can be sent to assist in providing air cover. The JMSDF can safely cut PRC sea lanes of communication outside the 1st island chain. Japan would then back Vietnam's claims in the East Sea and Vietnam will yield the most eastward side of the sea to the claims to the Philippines. Should the PRC respond by attacking Japan itself, the US comes in gloves off.

The PRC should enjoy healthy prosperous growth without ambitions of 9 dash line claim, claim on Senkaku islands, and claim on Taiwan.

nuke you! lol

 

[Suika]

nuke you! lol

Maybe Japan should have a nuclear arsenal too.

 

[Place Of Space]

Maybe Japan should have a nuclear arsenal too.

Then you great US dady will nuke you, again!

 

[Suika]

Then you great US dady will nuke you, again!

If the US doesn't nuke China, then that means they won't nuke Japan.

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[Place Of Space]

That's your delusion.

 

[ZY-CN-CA]

US muscle strong
Vietnam can get benefits
It has no reason not do that .
There are only interests between countries. Friendship is cheap，No need to get angry and discuss historical issues

 

[cochine]

That can change very quickly if we wanted. Maybe we will rule you for another thousand years.

Its called China dream, wet dream ... from thousand years.

 

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Photographer: Catherine Lai/AFP via Getty Images
Politics

Bloomberg News
10 September 2020, 04:51 CEST

• Support for American involvement as Southeast Asia envoys meet
• Top China diplomat blames Washington for renewed tensions

Southeast Asian countries want the U.S. to play a role in maintaining peace in the South China Sea, Vietnam said, pushing back against Beijing’s comments that American forces were destablizing the region.


“We welcome the U.S.’s constructive and responsive contributions to Asean’s efforts to maintaining the peace, stability and developments in the South China Sea,” Vietnam Foreign Minister Pham Binh Minh said Thursday during a virtual summit between representatives from the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations and Secretary of State Michael Pompeo. Vietnam holds the bloc’s rotating chairmanship.


Southeast Asian countries were open to opportunities for practical cooperation with the U.S. in the region, Minh said. Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei and Malaysia have been locked in territorial disputes with China that have impacted their ability to extract fish, oil and gas from offshore areas.



At a virtual summit a day earlier, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told Southeast Asian foreign ministers that the U.S. was intervening in territorial disputes and strengthening its military deployment in the contested area “out of its own political purposes.” He called the U.S. “the biggest driver of militarization of the South China Sea,” according to statements posted by China’s Foreign Ministry.


The U.S. has become “the most dangerous factor that damages the peace in the South China Sea,” Wang said, reiterating China’s position that disputes should be solved by regional countries. “Peace and stability are China’s greatest strategic interest in the South China Sea, which are also the common aspiration of Asean countries,” he said.

Tensions in the South China Sea have risen in the past few months as the U.S. and China spar on everything from democracy in Hong Kong to data security over popular Chinese apps TikTok and WeChat. In July, the U.S. explicitly rejected China’s expansive maritime claims in the region for the first time, and sent aircraft carriers to the waters to conduct military exercises.


China last month fired missiles into the South China Sea, a move that underscored the growing cost of any armed conflict in the region. The missiles showed China’s ability to strike out at U.S. bases and aircraft carriers, the major sources of American power projection in the region.

At a separate meeting Wednesday,
Pompeo joined several Asean countries in raising concerns over the China’s actions in the South China Sea, according to a State Department statement. He reiterated that the U.S. regarded Beijing’s expansive maritime claims in the South China Sea as unlawful according to a 2016 international tribunal ruling that China regards as illegitimate because it opted out of dispute settlement provisions when it signed up for United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

“We express serious concern over ongoing developments on the ground including serious incidents, continued militarization and activities that infringe on the lawful rights of small countries, run counter to international law,” Minh, the Vietnamese minister, said, citing the 1982 UN Convention for the Law of the Sea. “These have eroded trust and confidence, increased tensions and undermined peace, security and rule of law in the region.”


On Wednesday, Wang rejected the idea that China claims all waters within the nine-dash line as its territorial sea, calling it a “distortion” of China’s stance. He insisted China’s claim of islands in the South China Sea has “abundant historic and legal basis.”

He also argued that Chinese construction on reefs and islets was meant to improve living conditions and provide “public good” for the region. “In the face of a non-regional country’s military pressure, of course we have the right to protect our own sovereignty,” he said.

The U.S. said it also joined several countries in raising concerns over the imposition of sweeping national security legislation on Hong Kong, the arrests of pro-democracy students, the yearlong postponement of elections and disqualification of pro-democracy electoral candidates.

In response, Wang said the East Asia Summit had “never been a venue for interfering into other countries’ internal affairs, and should not become a stage to attack other countries’ political system.”

Pompeo Urges Southeast Asia to Cut Ties With ‘Bully’ China Firms

U.S. Secretary of State Michael Pompeo called on Southeast Asian countries to review ties with Chinese state-owned enterprises, stepping up pressure on Beijing over territorial disputes in the South China Sea.

www.bloomberg.com

— With assistance by John Boudreau, Jing Li, Xuan Quynh Nguyen, Philip Heijmans, and Derek Wallbank

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my advice to Vietnam: stay out of this. This is between China and USA.

 

[cochine]

If the US doesn't nuke China, then that means they won't nuke Japan.

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Japan govt. funded 368 Mill US$ ODA to Vietnam for 6 safeguard ships, ships will made in Japan.

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Nháºt Bản sẽ Äóng má»i và bà n giao 6 tà u tuần tra cho Cảnh sát biá»n Viá»t Nam theo hiá»p Äá»nh vá»n vay trá» giá hÆ¡n 348 triá»u USD.

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Japan govt. funded 368 Mill US$ ODA to Vietnam for 6 safeguard ships, ships will made in Japan.

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Nháºt Äóng 6 tà u tuần tra cho cảnh sát biá»n Viá»t Nam

Nháºt Bản sẽ Äóng má»i và bà n giao 6 tà u tuần tra cho Cảnh sát biá»n Viá»t Nam theo hiá»p Äá»nh vá»n vay trá» giá hÆ¡n 348 triá»u USD.

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Additionally, it looks like Mitsui is going to work with Malaysia in producing warships for Vietnam at some point.