No.
What I am saying is that once the M2K (not -5), became available, PAF should have gone for it ASAP. Secondly, Greece, Egypt, UAE, all maintain both F16's and M2K's for a reason.
Hi,
My problem is that I have to talk about when things happened in my lifetime as well---and incidently--this lifetime is longer than some other members---even thought at heart I am still a teenager---and when I am sitting down watching TV---I still hear my mother's voice in my ears---" did you finish your homework "---and I swear---I have a momentary feeling of guilt---damn---.
For the M2K's---I go back to the 80's---Paf already got the first batch of the F16's---well and good---. When they wanted to buy the second batch---the welwishers tried to push them HARD towards the M2K's---.
Why---have an option---so that you may not get sanctioned---and yet if you do---you have an option---. But no---for commissions---kickbacks---and future job promises---or out of pure negligence---Paf generals sold the nation out---.
Now---you you have 1/2 of the 80's---and whole of the 90's where you could buy the M2K's---.
The real problem with pakistan is and pakistan's military is---that is has only been a military for around 60 + years---.
In the 80's---it was a military for only 35 + years---. It had no historical presence of a military---because pakistan was not a nation and muslims was slave of the british for 200 years---.
And in those 200 years---major warring tribes and ethnic groups were decimated by the british---those who raised arms against them in the war of independence---their ethnic groups were crushed---and many a tribes were not allowed entry into the british military because of rebellion and even after 13 years of Pakistan's independence.
As pakistan had no military prior to its existence---it chose to fall back on the glory of early Islam---going back over a 1000 years +++that is why we see the name of tanks and missiles of Saudi / Afghan origin.
As there was NO MILITARY LINEAGE going over centuries---pakistani warriors and generals had forgotten the concept of diversity in the arsenal---and even though they did not produce majority of the weaponery---they could not comprehend the importance of diversity in times of duress---even though they had modern day examples of Israel in front of them---and their own example as well.
But israel's example was more important---because it was created by europe and their loved ones still put sanctions on them at a very crucial time in the life of Israel---the French stopped the delivery of Mirages and gun boats---that made Israel steal the blue prints from switzerland and build their own fighter.
The army in pakistan understood it better---they diversified---but the air force---their learning ability was very small---basically negligent---.
I am giving you 22 days + 7 days old news---when I was in pakistan. Sohail Aman---is still living in ether---. He still believes his pilot is superior to an indian pilot---he still believes in man behind the machine---he still believes in wvr---. He feels no threat from and overwhelming indian air force---because he thinks his 77 F16's can over run the 300 + frontline Iaf aircraft---.
He has no concern or fear of the enemy---and that is a terrible thing---and for that---I again give the examples of the israelis---they always fear the enemy---. It makes them get ready in a timely manner---train harder---get the right equipment and keep open vigilence---because they know that their backs are against the sea.
When you want to judge my post---just remember I told you a year + ago that Gen Raheel faulted in not joining Yemen crisis---then 3 weeks ago---I told you what I learnt when I was in pakistan recently---. Their comment was " hamein samajh nahin aiyee uss waqt "---and now you know he is ready to go---.
I told you guys years ago---after abbotabad Osama killings---that Gen Kiyani was involved---and many made fun of me---now we know---he was deep down to his neck involved in that U S military strike---'thanks' to Hussein Haqqani.
And I say to you guys again---there is an inherent problem with the pakistanis---they genetically lack the genes that can assess for them what to do in a situation for everlasting threats---.
In the paksiatnis---the nations suicidal gene is the dominant gene---and not the personal suicidal gene---the reason being---Pakistanis are really not a citizens of a nation with a heritage and history---. They are a hodge podge of ethnicities that ended up in a certain geographic location.
Our heritage and history was swearing alliance to one ruler---one day--and swearing alliance to the other ruler---the other day---.
So---what does that do to us when we begin to chose major weapons systems---like fighter aircraft---we cannot comprehend to chose diversity in our inventory---because this fighter aircraft concept is very new to us---the importance of diversity has not registered on our genetical coding---.
For the army and navy---we have better understanding---because of centuries of usage.
This 1965 air war---has really ruined the minds of our air force---I wish that we had been thrashed hard---so that we had to look for reliable systems in a timely manner---.
So---after the 1st phase of M2k in the mid 80's---the 2nd phase started in the early 90's when the sanctions had hit hard---. And we all know how a " too honest ' of an air force officer destroyed the deal. It did not happen 2 months later---2 months is like 2000 years in military terms---.
Then the 3rd phase should have been opened after 9/11 for the M2K or the Rafale---. That was the moment of high treason of the Paf---not ordering an aircraft right away---.
The best of the best aircraft---the Rafale was offered---out of sheer incompetence and arrogance---the Paf rejected it---. Supposedly---when they went looking for M2K's in 2006 or later---" it was stupid to do so "---new M2k did not make any sense when Rafale was available---.
If price was the issue---then let us sell our nucs---pay off our debts---get an extra 100 billion dollars and setup the industry and forget about the war---.
