USA OR China a bigger threat to India ?

[alwaysfair]

http://www.rand.org/blog/2015/10/pakistan-and-chinas-almost-alliance.html

The crux of this article is that even though China and Pakistan share a historical alliance from the sixties , its USA which has quietly encouraged the nuclearisation and weaponisation of Pakistan by winking at the illicit nuclear and technology trade beteeen the two.
Indians in general do not trust the Americans and it seems with good reason.

So the question is whether its China with its or USA which is a bigger threat to India' security ?

Indian members pl weigh in.

 

[sankar]

http://www.rand.org/blog/2015/10/pakistan-and-chinas-almost-alliance.html

The crux of this article is that even though China and Pakistan share a historical alliance from the sixties , its USA which has quietly encouraged the nuclearisation and weaponisation of Pakistan by winking at the illicit nuclear and technology trade beteeen the two.
Indians in general do not trust the Americans and it seems with good reason.

So the question is whether its China with its or USA which is a bigger threat to India' security ?

Indian members pl weigh in.

Earlier both US and China on same page to support Pakistan as an Ally. But it is quite the opposite as for as US is concerned.
Infact China's Growth was complimentary because of US.
So, today we can trust US.

China can never be trusted as Maoists, ULFA and other terrorists groups are supported by China to create unrest in East India. Similarly standing behind Pakistan and its Terrorists assests even in UN openly.
So, China never ever can be trusted.

 

[oprih]

Indians see americans as their new master after the british, india will do whatever america asks them to do.

 

[nature is]

The biggest threat to India is India itself.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

The biggest threat to India is India itself.

U just ended the whole debate over here....

 

[Srinivas]

The biggest threat to India is India itself, we should end corruption, implement the development plans, gather our resources, improve infrastructure etc...etc...

India by nature is a global player and a strong ancient power.

India do not give the same status for USA and China.

USA is the sole super power, China is an emerging country.

 

[alwaysfair]

Earlier both US and China on same page to support Pakistan as an Ally. But it is quite the opposite as for as US is concerned.
Infact China's Growth was complimentary because of US.
So, today we can trust US.

China can never be trusted as Maoists, ULFA and other terrorists groups are supported by China to create unrest in East India. Similarly standing behind Pakistan and its Terrorists assests even in UN openly.
So, China never ever can be trusted.

USA gives Arms to Pakistan as aid to fight against terror. But if you go into the details of the aid, its air to air missiles , night fighting equipment , with most of it more suited for a conventional war rather than against rag tag militia.
Also China normally does not give aid but loans or charges hard cash from Pakistan. Maybe subsidised.
With the american approach you lose leverage as soon as equipment is delivered and training finished. With chinese approach they have leverage till the loans are repaid or forgiven.
India is basically sponsoring Pakistans free arms by rewarding the americans with expensive orders for arms .
Is India in a position to impose nonofficial sanctions on American cos supplying arms to Pakistan ? We are not really dependent on too much support from the americans .
Just convey the msg that if you give arms to Pakistan then dont expect any orders from us.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

America already owns India after they signed the LEMOA, so it's no question, China is the one they think is the threat.

 

[PakGuns]

The biggest threat to India is India itself, we should end corruption, implement the development plans, gather our resources, improve infrastructure etc...etc...

India by nature is a global player and a strong ancient power.

India do not give the same status for USA and China.

USA is the sole super power, China is an emerging country.

China is a regional super power.. But just decades away to match US militarily..

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

China is a regional super power.. But just decades away to match US militarily..

China is only a developing country.

We need to think about becoming a developed country first, that's what matters for us. We can leave all the super power talk to the Indians.

 

[帅的一匹]

India should be neutral. Don't drag yourself into USA/ China mess. The biggest threat to India is its misjudge against China. We don't want a shattered India, you know India is a fine market. As both China/ USA/India/ Pakistan are nuclear capable, so there should be peace. But I think USA won't be happy if China and India relationship improves. Look at the south Tibet/Arunachal disputes, Kirshmir problem, tell me which of it was not caused by the whites! The biggest threat is instigated by westerners and we contain each other. I always said if China/ Pakistan/ India/Russia come together, that's quite a league.

 

[sankar]

Indians see americans as their new master after the british, india will do whatever america asks them to do.

For your kind information Indians never see anybody as their Master. But they see as Friends.
You people is the one always needs a master it seems.

The biggest threat to India is India itself.

Thanks buddy. We will take care of ourselves. Pls don't interfere in our affairs.

U just ended the whole debate over here....

I can see you appreciate your Master's say. Good for the world to know about you.

The biggest threat to India is India itself, we should end corruption, implement the development plans, gather our resources, improve infrastructure etc...etc...

India by nature is a global player and a strong ancient power.

India do not give the same status for USA and China.

USA is the sole super power, China is an emerging country.

My friend. You're right. But that does not mean India cannot become an important power in the world.
FYI - Both USA and China too has corruption in their country.
I have to agree that Corruption does affect the developement, but that cannot entirely stop the developement. India today is far better and developed in economy, Education, innovation, manufacturing etc.. despite the corruption it has. So, India will grow more and this time quicker.

India should be neutral. Don't drag yourself into USA/ China mess. The biggest threat to India is its misjudge against China. We don't want a shattered India, you know India is a fine market. As both China/ USA/India/ Pakistan are nuclear capable, so there should be peace. But I think USA won't be happy if China and India relationship improves. Look at the south Tibet/Arunachal disputes, Kirshmir problem, tell me which of it was not caused by the whites! The biggest threat is instigated by westerners and we contain each other. I always said if China/ Pakistan/ India/Russia come together, that's quite a league.

It is not India to be neutral. It should be China to play neutral. Stop support terrorist, respect UNCLOAS and respect others in the region.

But your last point is quite true. If we form China, Russia and India - it will be formidable alliance for the west. But question is will it happen ?? Do all trust each other ??

 

[alwaysfair]

India should be neutral. Don't drag yourself into USA/ China mess. The biggest threat to India is its misjudge against China. We don't want a shattered India, you know India is a fine market. As both China/ USA/India/ Pakistan are nuclear capable, so there should be peace. But I think USA won't be happy if China and India relationship improves. Look at the south Tibet/Arunachal disputes, Kirshmir problem, tell me which of it was not caused by the whites! The biggest threat is instigated by westerners and we contain each other. I always said if China/ Pakistan/ India/Russia come together, that's quite a league.

If you want peace with India evacuate aksai chin and never talk about Arunachal.
Also order Pakistan to evacuate the occupied part of kashmir.
Also remove all restrictions on imports from India , support Indian resolutions in UN against terrorists and support our NSG Candidature.

Only then can we become friends.

 

[ashok321]

Modi is the best enemy of India, he is out to destroy India.

 

[alwaysfair]

Modi is the best enemy of India, he is out to destroy India.

You seem to get a lot of things wrong i see .
Though not a fan of his , i detest all politicians, he genuinely seems to have Indias interest at heart. Whether he has the skill , intelligence or sophistication is totally another matter. India is not a easy place to govern.