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Even if Pakistan troops fired first, the fault still lies with the US/NATO because:
1. Pakistan was not informed of US/NATO operations in the area, and given the timing of the operation (late night), Pakistani troops cannot be blamed for firing (if they did) at suspected militants
2. NATO/US troops on the ground (or the planners of that particular operation) were incompetent to the point that they did not realize the presence of two Pakistani posts whose location had been communicated to ISAF
3. NATO/US coordinators for the ground troops and/or air-strikes were incompetent to the point that they did not realize that they were directing air-strikes onto two Pakistani positions whose location had been communicated to ISAF
4. NATO/US ground troops/coordinaters violated ROE and called in air-strikes on Pakistani territory, when they should have FIRST checked with the Pakistani liaison officers to verify the presence of Pakistani troops in the area
5. NATO/US troops were incompetent to the point that after violating ROE and the proper process of communicating with Pakistani military authorities, they provided the wrong coordinates to Pakistan and continued the air-strikes.
That last part about the wrong coordinates is extremely puzzling - how could the air-strikes be called in on the correct coordinates, but the incorrect coordinates be provided to the Pakistani authorities?
The format of delivering battle orders (verbal or written) is standard the world over. It follows a 5 paragraph format, the two sub paras of first heading is:
1. Enemy Forces
2.Own/Friendly Forces
The "Own/Friendly Forces" para is there for a particular reason; to avoid blue over blue, and in case one requires assistance during a battle, so one knows where he can get it from at the earliest.
Bloody yankees WTF have you been doing during your training sessions (other nibbling on McMeals and Dunkins)?
So it's a basic thing that before going into an operation, the location of friendly forces is told to every participant, but it looks like as if either the location of Pakistani posts in the vicinity of the AOO (area of operation) was not told deliberately or the yankees are fcuking incompetent trigger happy *********!!!
The only escape now is to accept either of the above!
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Found the detailed orders: Five paragraph order - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I. Situation
A. Enemy Forces
Enemy's Composition, Disposition, StrengthSALUTE) Size, Activity, Location, Unit, Time observed, Equipment
Enemy's Capabilities & Limitations
Enemy's Most Likely Course Of Action (EMLCOA)DRAW-DG) Defend, Reinforce, Attack, Withdraw, Delay, Gas
B. Friendly Forces
Higher's Mission & Intent
Adjacent Units
North/South/East/West
Same Echelon
Supporting
C. Attachments/Detachment
II. Mission
Who, What, Where, When, and (most importantly) Why?
III. Execution
A. Commander's Intent
Center of Gravity
Critical Vulnerability
Exploitation Plan
Desired Endstate
B. Concept of the Operations
Scheme of Maneuver
Fire Support Plan
C. Tasks
D. Coordinating Instructions
IV. Administration/Logistics (Sustainment in the Army version)
A. Administration - "Bad Guys & Bandages": EPW & Casevac Plans
B. Logistics - "Beans, Bullets, & Batteries": Chow, Ammo, Supply, Comms, Pyro, etc.
V. Command/Signal (Command and Control in the Army version)
A. Signal
Primary
Secondary
B. Command
Location of Key Leaders
Succession of Command