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LOL thousands of years. Dont spread lies here. Manchu started to rule China in 1600. They adopted Chinese language to make it easy for them to control China.
Manchu is seen as foreigners even until 1912, the end of their rule
Anti-Qing sentiment
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"Anti-Manchu sentiment" redirects here. For specific hatred against Manchu people, see Anti-Manchuism.
Sun Yat-sen, one of the leaders of the Xinhai Revolution which overthrew the Qing dynasty in 1912. Photo taken in 1907
Anti-Qing sentiment (Chinese: 反清; pinyin: fǎn Qīng) refers to a sentiment principally held in China against Manchu rule during the Qing dynasty (1636–1912), which was criticized by opponents as being barbaric. The Qing was accused of destroying traditional Han culture by forcing Han to wear their hair in a queue in the Manchu style. It was blamed for suppressing Chinese science, causing China to be transformed from the world's premiere power to a poor, backwards nation. The people of the Eight Banners lived off government pensions unlike the general Han civilian population.
The rallying slogan of anti-Qing activists was "Fǎn Qīng fù Míng" (simplified Chinese: 反清复明; traditional Chinese: 反清復明; literally: "Oppose Qing and restore Ming"), related to the Boxer Rebellion slogan "Revive the Qing and destroy the foreigners" ("扶清滅洋 fú Qīng miè yáng").
In the broadest sense, an anti-Qing activist was anyone who engaged in anti-Manchu direct action. This included people from many mainstream political movements and uprisings, such as Taiping Rebellion, the Xinhai Revolution, the Revolt of the Three Feudatories, the Revive China Society, the Tongmenghui, the Panthay Rebellion, White Lotus Rebellion, and others.
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Anti-Manchuism (Chinese: 排滿) refers to sentiment which is held against the Manchus, or sentiment which was held against the Qing Dynasty's rule over Chinese civilization which was often resented for supposedly being a barbaric regime which ruled over Chinese civilization despite a high degree of cultural integration by the Manchus. This ethnic-based[citation needed] sentiment tended to be a subset of the greater anti-Qing sentiment. Some of the anti-Manchuists in the Qing dynasty stated "Fan qing fu ming" (simplified Chinese: 反清复明; traditional Chinese: 反清復明) to say they want to rebuild the Ming dynasty and overthrow the Qing dynasty.
Sun Yat Sen, who overthrew the Qing Dynasty and founded the Chinese Republic, proclaimed this when he launched his rebellion against the Qing Dynasty which was led by Manchus and ruled all of China from 1644 to 1911:
In order to restore our national independence, we must first restore the Chinese nation. In order to restore the Chinese nation, we must drive the barbarian Manchus back to the Changbai Mountains. In order to get rid of the barbarians, we must first overthrow the present tyrannical, dictatorial, ugly, and corrupt Qing government. Fellow countrymen, a revolution is the only means to overthrow the Qing government!
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Taiping Rebellion
Main articles: Taiping Rebellion and Taiping Heavenly Kingdom
A drawing of Hong Xiuquan as the "Heavenly King" (ca. 1860)
Hong Xiuquan (洪秀全, Hóng Xiùquán) was a Hakka Chinese who was the leader of the Taiping Rebellion (1850–1864) against the Qing dynasty. He proclaimed himself to be the Heavenly King, established the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom and called Jesus Christ his brother.[citation needed]
Genocide and extermination of Manchus
Driven by their fierce hatred of Manchus, the Taiping launched a massive genocide campaign against the Manchus to exterminate their entire race.
The genocide of Manchus was incredible, in every area they captured, the Taiping immediately rushed into the Manchu fort in order to kill all the Manchus. One Qing loyalist observed in the province of Hunan of the genocidal massacres committed by Taiping forces against the Manchus and wrote of the "pitiful Manchus", the Manchu men, women and children who were exterminated by the Taiping with their swords. Once Hefei capitulated, the Taiping forces rushed into the Manchu quarter shouting "Kill the demons (Manchus)!" while exterminating all the Manchus living there. Ningbo's entire Manchu population was also annihilated.[12]
After conquering Nanjing, Taiping forces stormed the Manchu fort, killing some 40,000 Manchus, which was the city's entire population of Manchus.[13] On 27 October 1853 they crossed the Yellow River in T'sang-chou and butchered about 10,000 Manchus.[14] In Shaoxing 2,000 Manchus were also killed.[15]
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You need to differentiate between a Nation and an Ethnic.
Manchu itself is part of a Chinese Dynasty known as Jin Dynasty (Successor of Liao Dynasty)
Yes, there is sentiment between Han and Manchu in the past. But that doesn't mean Manchu are not part of China.
Like in Indonesia,
in the past there is a sentiment between Javanese and Ambonese. Because many Ambonese serve in Colonial Troops (KNIL).
But that doesn't mean Ambonese is not part of Indonesia, right?
You believe Guangdong and Guangxi people want to join Vietnam?
I believe the Vietnamese one especially from the north, want to join Guangdong and Guangxi Lol