US officials in Turkey to promise delivery of F-35 If Turkey cancel S-400

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

>Spergout
Didn't you say stealth is fake?

Nothing in this universe is stealth. Not even black holes. If you think F-35 is stealth then you are a fool.

The modern laws of physics had been fully discovered by the 1940s. If you think they never tried to make a stealth fighter jet before the 1970s then you are fool.

 

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Sure it does.

No it does not.

https://rg.ru/2017/07/11/novejshij-radar-dlia-mig-35-sozdadut-do-konca-goda.html

Sure they did.

Cyprus bought them.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

No it does not.

It has a top speed of over Mach 2.2, thrust-vectoring options, and a combat radius of 620 miles. It can mount nearly every fighter-class weapon in the Russian arsenal. Though not a stealth fighter, its fuselage has been shaped and coated with radar-absorbing material which would be supplemented by the plane's electronic warfare radar jammers.

https://www.upi.com/MiG-pushing-for-exports-of-the-MiG-35-fighter/9661498153646/

 

[MMM-E]

Russia and Iran slaughter Sunnis in Syria and Turkey watches. Great cooperation. Only thing that unites 3 is that they have macho dictators and their currencies are falling

They are citizens of Syria , not Turkish citizens
Turkey saved over 3 millions of Syrians from Assad regime , Iran and Iran backed groups and ISIS and PKK/YPG
and Turks are not stupid to start a sectarian war in the region for the US-Israeli interests
soon Russia-Turkey-Iran will stop civil war in Syria

and I remind you that the Turkish Armed Forces kicked the US-Israel backed terrorists in Syria and the US-Israel watches

You bragged about Yogoslavia shooting down the F117 so I asked what happened to it

and I answered that Turkey is not Yugoslavia or Iraq or Libya
dont compare Turkey with Yugoslavia or Iraq or Libya
You can not do anything to Turkey
Turks have 2200+ years state and military tradition to kick enemies

Wake me up when u produce F110. BTW China is investing billions in jet engines buit still depends on Russia.

Turkey develops Turboprob engines for UAV-UCAV , Turbojet engine for Cruise Missile
and now Turkey develops TEI TS1400 Turboshaft gas turbine engine for Helicopters in 5 years

and Turkey can develop turbofan engine , similar to F110 ( F110 engines are currently being produced under license by Tusas Engine Industries in Turkey)

but Turkey targets to develop new gen engine for TFX Fighter Jet project in 15 years


also British ROLLS ROYCE has been working with Turkish KALE to bid for the engine development contract on the TF-X 5th gen Fighter Jet project

also Russia offers to develop Engine for the TF-X 5th gen Fighter Jet project

And this is Pantsyr which is designed to defend S-400 from missiles:

even S200 shot down Israeli F-16 , S400 can turn all Israeli Fighter Jets to burned bird

and Turkish KORKUT 35mm SPAAG , HISAR-A and HISAR-O latest technology air defense systems will protect S400 from missiles

 

[Beny Karachun]

It has a top speed of over Mach 2.2, thrust-vectoring options, and a combat radius of 620 miles. It can mount nearly every fighter-class weapon in the Russian arsenal. Though not a stealth fighter, its fuselage has been shaped and coated with radar-absorbing material which would be supplemented by the plane's electronic warfare radar jammers.

https://www.upi.com/MiG-pushing-for-exports-of-the-MiG-35-fighter/9661498153646/

Can Russia even produce an amount of these that can pose a threat to anyone besides Lichtenstein?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Can Russia even produce an amount of these that can pose a threat to anyone besides Lichtenstein?

Russia never invaded a country since 1945. Peaceful.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Russia never invaded a country since 1945. Peaceful.

Lol of couurseee it didn't

Russia never invaded a country since 1945. Peaceful.

Besides, you're missing my point.

 

[Basel]

That was a very different situation, since Greece never wanted to buy the S-300. Cyprus bought it and then NATO forced the system to us so that Cyprus wouldn't field it. NATO also made an official proclamation to Russia that the system would not be studied due to Greece fielding it.



And they need one. My hunch is that even if this particular problem goes away and Turkey doesn't buy the S-400, the US will find another excuse to delay the F-35 program.

Turkey should not budge on this. It was shown since the T-loramids program ten years ago that US is using NATO and its defense industry weight to force political solutions to this part of the procurement industry. S-400 is objectively better than the current export Patriot system.

That part of Cyprus is under Greece control in reality and world knows that.

 

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They are citizens of Syria , not Turkish citizens
Turkey saved over 3 millions of Syrians from Assad regime , Iran and Iran backed groups and ISIS and PKK/YPG
and Turks are not stupid to start a sectarian war in the region for the US-Israeli interests
soon Russia-Turkey-Iran will stop civil war in Syria

and I remind you that the Turkish Armed Forces kicked the US-Israel backed terrorists in Syria and the US-Israel watches

LOL. Just imagine for a second that Assad, Russia and Iran were bombing Jewish citizens of Syria and Israel watching still.

You signed with Iran and Russia agreement on 4 deescalation zones in Syria. And Iran and Russia just spit in your face and destroyed one after another.

and I answered that Turkey is not Yugoslavia or Iraq or Libya
dont compare Turkey with Yugoslavia or Iraq or Libya
You can not do anything to Turkey
Turks have 2200+ years state and military tradition to kick enemies

So basically you admit that bring irrelevant nonsense.

Turkey develops Turboprob engines for UAV-UCAV , Turbojet engine for Cruise Missile
and now Turkey develops TEI TS1400 Turboshaft gas turbine engine for Helicopters in 5 years

and Turkey can develop turbofan engine , similar to F110 ( F110 engines are currently being produced under license by Tusas Engine Industries in Turkey)

but Turkey targets to develop new gen engine for TFX Fighter Jet project in 15 years


also British ROLLS ROYCE has been working with Turkish KALE to bid for the engine development contract on the TF-X 5th gen Fighter Jet project

also Russia offers to develop Engine for the TF-X 5th gen Fighter Jet project

Turkey is assembling and producing some parts of the F110. Developing engine similar to F110 is very complex thing even for super power like China. After decades of efforts they still depend on Russia.

https://www.tei.com.tr/detay/parca-ve-modul-uretimi
https://www.tei.com.tr/detay/f110-motoru

even S200 shot down Israeli F-16 , S400 can turn all Israeli Fighter Jets to burned bird

S-200 fired two dozen rockets to shoot down one F-16 when it was flying deep inside Israeli territory and not expecting the attack. After the shooting Israel destroyed the S-200 with ease and dozens of Syrian Pantsirs and Buks could not protect these S-200.

and Turkish KORKUT 35mm SPAAG , HISAR-A and HISAR-O latest technology air defense systems will protect S400 from missiles

As you can see even Russian newest Pantsir could not defend even itself from Israeli missile. Israel used hundreds of such missiles in recent conflicts. Even if you shoot down couple missiles S-400 will be destroyed.

Israel is little insect without the US protection
whole world have seen what happened in 2006 against Hezbollah

cowardly Israeli soldiers are pants-pissing wimps

Stupid photophop. How old are you kid?

https://d2w9rnfcy7mm78.cloudfront.net/1698439/large_e7e6dfa2edd847f7e4043f613f3411db.jpg

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

You signed with Iran and Russia agreement on 4 deescalation zones in Syria. And Iran and Russia just spit in your face and destroyed one after another.

De escalation is not ceasefire. WW2 was de escalated after killing millions of people. Tell me which war has ended without de escalation?

 

[MMM-E]

You signed with Iran and Russia agreement on 4 deescalation zones in Syria. And Iran and Russia just spit in your face and destroyed one after another

I am saying again Russia-Turkey-Iran works together in Syria in the last a few years

Iran, Russia, Turkey summit meeting to be held in Tehran in September

Turkey is assembling and producing some parts of the F110. Developing engine similar to F110 is very complex thing even for super power like China. After decades of efforts they still depend on Russia.

Turboshaft gas turbine engine is also very complex thing even for China

but Turkish TEI TS1400 Turboshaft gas turbine engine will be ready in 5 years ( only a few countries in the World )

only 6 Engine companies have blisk-spool technologies in the world and TEI ( Turkey ) is one of them
so Turkey can develop 4th gen jet fighter similar to F16 and turbofan engine similar to F110

but Turkey targets to develop 5th generation fighter jet with new gen turbofan engine to be operational in the nesxt 15 years

S-200 fired two dozen rockets to shoot down one F-16 when it was flying deep inside Israeli territory and not expecting the attack. After the shooting Israel destroyed the S-200 with ease and dozens of Syrian Pantsirs and Buks could not protect these S-200.

As you can see even Russian newest Pantsir could not defend even itself from Israeli missile. Israel used hundreds of such missiles in recent conflicts. Even if you shoot down couple missiles S-400 will be destroyed.

I dont care about weak Syria , no airforce , no modern air defense systems , no electronic warfare systems

Turkey is not Syria ,, Turkey has one of the strongest military in the World

Turkish Airforce has 230 F-16C/D Fighter Jets and 4 Boeing 737 AEWC
Turkish Navy has 16 Frigates and Turkey develops 4 TF-2000 class air warfare Frigates

and Turkey develops Ballistic/Cruise Missiles to respond against enemy military attacks
-- BORA Ballistic Missile
-- ATMACA naval strike Missile ( anti ship / land attack )
-- GEZGIN land and naval based Cruise Missile
-- SOM , SOM-ER and SOM-J air launched Cruise Missile ( anti ship / land attack )

and of course Turkey will have modern and deterrent air defense Systems
-- KORKUT 35mm SPAAG
-- KORAL Radar Electronic Warfare System
-- S400 high altitude air defense System by 2019-2020
-- HISAR-A low altitude air defense System by 2020
-- HISAR-O medium altitude air defense System by 2021
-- HISAR-U high altitude air defense System by 2023-2025
-- Turkey,France,Italy develops new anti ballistic missile defense System by 2025




and even if its photoshop , are they Israeli soldiers or Israeli kids ? cowards

https://d2w9rnfcy7mm78.cloudfront.net/1698439/large_e7e6dfa2edd847f7e4043f613f3411db.jpg

 

[500]

I am saying again Russia-Turkey-Iran works together in Syria in the last a few years

Iran, Russia, Turkey summit meeting to be held in Tehran in September

So Russia and Iran trashed next day agreement that you made with them. So you make a new one. Good luck.

Turboshaft gas turbine engine is also very complex thing even for China

but Turkish TEI TS1400 Turboshaft gas turbine engine will be ready in 5 years ( only a few countries in the World )

China is producing turboshaft engines (like WZ16) since long time ago. With jet engines they still have big problems. The major problem is resource which is much lower than counterparts.

I dont care about weak Syria , no airforce , no modern air defense systems , no electronic warfare systems

Syria has most modern Russian air defence systems: Pantsir and Buk M2. You dont have anything close to it.

and even if its photoshop , are they Israeli soldiers or Israeli kids ? cowards

During the rocket attack you have to take cover. What's coward about it?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Obviously Turkey refuses US offer. As a sovereign state, this is insult. Turkey buy whatever it wants to buy. This is not the business of any other state.

 

[MMM-E]

China is producing turboshaft engines (like WZ16) since long time ago

WZ16 Turboshaft Engine is jointly developed (50/50) by French Safran Helicopter Engines with Chinese AVIC Engine and It was ground tested in France in November 2013

on the other hand Turkey develops its own TEI TS1400 Turboshaft Engine without any helping

Syria has most modern Russian air defence systems: Pantsir and Buk M2. You dont have anything close to it.

very funny old Pantsir-S1 and Buk M2


Turkey has modernized HAWK XXI and RAPIER air defense Systems

Turkey will have modern and deterrent air defense Systems ,,,,, Syria even can not dream about it

-- 230 F-16C/D with AIM-120C7 and AIM-9x sidewinder missiles to protect Turkish airspace
-- 4 Boeing 737 AEWC
-- 600+ km EIRS early warning AESA Radar
-- KORKUT 35mm SPAAG
-- KORAL Radar Electronic Warfare System
-- S400 high altitude air defense System by 2019-2020
-- HISAR-A low altitude air defense System by 2020
-- HISAR-O medium altitude air defense System by 2021
-- HISAR-U high altitude air defense System by 2023-2025
-- Turkey,France,Italy develops new anti ballistic missile defense System by 2025
-- TF-2000 class air warfare Frigate with 450 km CAFRAD Naval xRadar by 2025

 

[cabatli_53]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1034501775372505088

Turkish pilot made maiden flight with Turkish F-35 in US.