US lawmaker to block deal to sell F—16s to Pakistan

[Jaanbaz]

Sadly all of this Indian investment will go to waste, as history proves when shit goes down you can expect Indians to start whining to USA and its GF Israel.

 

[jupiter2007]

Excellent news for Pakistan. Pakistan need to build the strategic relationship with China, Turkey, Iran, South Africa, Russia, and ex-Soviet countries, and not depend on the handouts form America.

I know regardless of the congress blocking the free F-16 to Pakistan, those F-16 will eventually come to Pakistan.

Jf-17 Block 3 with more composite material, active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar and advance avionics will be able to match (or exceed) the performance of current F-16 in the inventory.

 

[Blue Marlin]

two different things the support fund is for using our roads facilities and fuel for their Afghan operations.
yes the F-16 are coming .. by end of 2017

how do you know they are coming? and what variant. i assume this is a g2g deal so the usa government would have make the order which would the honoured by lockheed. this is also the only way foriegn deals go through quickly as the usa is simply a proxy.remember the block 52+ fiasco?

 

[rockstar08]

Why? F16 would come to Pakistan anyways. Let Americans milk some money from our enemies.

Do we have any dignity left ?
US insult Pakistan , its institution , call our army and ISI supporting terrorist , yet they are sitting in Afghanistan laying eggs and Taliban are still at large ..
every time we look to buy any weapon, they blame game starts ..
why cant we just move on from F-16 ... J-10C are Equal to F-16's , slightly better. .. 40 J-10C can anytime any day beat 10 F-16's .

but as i say, our Shit Tanks knows how to lick the boots of Americans .

How so?

read post # 49

 

[Areesh]

Do we have any dignity left ?
US insult Pakistan , its institution , call our army and ISI supporting terrorist , yet they are sitting in Afghanistan laying eggs and Taliban are still at large ..
every time we look to buy any weapon, they blame game starts ..
why cant we just move on from F-16 ... J-10C are Equal to F-16's , slightly better. .. 40 J-10C can anytime any day beat 10 F-16's .

but as i say, our Shit Tanks knows how to lick the boots of Americans .

PAF still needs F16. Around 100 of them. At the end F16 would come. may be PAF also wants to give false hopes and nanni nanni khushiyan to clowns in the east.

 

[Abingdonboy]

4. Modi sarkar> contented & taking selfies

4. because selfies are a good way to relieve strees

Sadly all of this Indian investment will go to waste, as history proves when shit goes down you can expect Indians to start whining to USA and its GF Israel.

The United States consulate in New Delhi has informed US Senator Bob Corker, Tennessee Republican and a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi is not eligible to receive a diplomatic visa. Aziz Haniffa reports.

On the urging of his Indian American constituents, led by activist Tarun Surti of Nashville, Tennessee -- one of Modi's staunchest supporters in the US --and several senior members of the Asian American Hotel Owners Association, the majority of whom have origins in Gujarat and are ardent fans of Modi, Corker had contacted the US embassy in New Delhi to explore the possibility of Modi being granted a diplomatic visa to visit the US.

But Surti said he had received a call from Corker's office "notifying me that the 'Diplomatic Visa' is not available to Sri Narendrabhai Modi."

Why are you acting surprised? It's the most logical thing in the world- enemies will play these games and use whatever means avalable to stunt their adversary. To think otherwise would be naive.


Don't blame India for yur defence products being held to ransom- this is what you get for being a vassal state. If you want to avoid this drama then you have to do some introspeection.

 

[rockstar08]

PAF still needs F16. Around 100 of them. At the end F16 would come. may be PAF also wants to give false hopes and nanni nanni khushiyan to clowns in the east.

that is the problem bro, we don't need F-16's anymore .. the J-series is all set and China is inducting hundreds of them in number .. we are stuck with F-16's with US always keep an eyes on us , and who knows what they will demand ? another Shamsi base ? or reduce the number of Nukes .. our Generals will sell Pakistan for Money .. if they can .
the F-16 lobby will keep things tight in PAF . now people will come here and try to defend how F-16 is better than J-series , Su-35, Rafale , EFT and so on ... just because PAF is getting .. yeah its a capable jet but how much we have to bend ? bend enough to expose our Dirty A$$ to American , let them r@pe our country , call us supporting terrorist , destroying the Future Business within Pakistan ..
Our Eastern clowns are still better than us , as they have their own independent Foreign policy .

 

[Abingdonboy]

Why don't you introspect to check that this randi rona by India is not working?

The very fact the sale/transfer has been delayed shows that it is working on some level. I haven't seem a single arms sale to India face any level of scrutiny whatsoever.

 

[Paksanity]

Do we have any dignity left ?
US insult Pakistan , its institution , call our army and ISI supporting terrorist , yet they are sitting in Afghanistan laying eggs and Taliban are still at large ..
every time we look to buy any weapon, they blame game starts ..
why cant we just move on from F-16 ... J-10C are Equal to F-16's , slightly better. .. 40 J-10C can anytime any day beat 10 F-16's .

but as i say, our Shit Tanks knows how to lick the boots of Americans .



read post # 49

Learn how this world works and where our interests lie. When people of Pakistan start electing good leaders who put the country on path of progress, then you can show the arrogance. Remember even Israel gets criticised. That doesn't mean it doesn't benefit from US. This is how US works. Learn how to work with it. We have missed many trains to prosperity through our silly attitudes. Because we don't want to learn how modern world works.

 

[rockstar08]

JFT project is a step in that direction.

but we dying to buy those F-16's ... and we all know there will be strings attached and our educated nation will never know .

 

[Areesh]

The very fact the sale/transfer has been delayed shows that it is working on some level. I haven't seem a single arms sale to India face any level of scrutiny whatsoever.

At some level. And failure at all levels? You did the same drama 6 years ago too.

Indian Americans rally to block F-16s sale to Pakistan.

And result was a failure.

And India is a lone market in this world to sell over priced weapons. It won't ever get scrutinized.

but we dying to buy those F-16's ... and we all know there will be strings attached and our educated nation will never know .

There are no strings attached. Americans don't care if those F16 bomb IA formations during a war. Days of F16 going to an end. So no need to be much frustrated. These are last few days of American blackmailing.

 

[Abingdonboy]

At some level. And failure at all levels? You did the same drama 6 years ago too.

Indian Americans rally to block F-16s sale to Pakistan.

And result was a failure.

Depends on how you term "failure".


IF Indian lobbyists are really behind this then forcing more scrutiny on dealings with Pakistan and generally toxifying relations between the US and Pakistan isn't a complete failure IMO.

Having to go through this drama every time Pakistan wants some scraps from the table is hardly brilliant for Pakistan's image.

And India is a lone market in this world to sell over priced weapons. It won't ever get scrutinized.

When India buys weapons it is getting ripped off, when Pakistan does it.....

 

[Areesh]

Depends on how you term "failure".


IF Indian lobbyists are really behind this then forcing more scrutiny on dealings with Pakistan and generally toxifying relations between the US and Pakistan isn't a complete failure IMO.

Having to go through this drama every time Pakistan wants some scraps from the table is hardly brilliant for Pakistan's image.

You don't need to worry about Pakistan's image. You should be more concerned about how Americans are making a fool out of you guys and miking you to fill their pockets.

And no scrutiny in this world is going to stop an F16 from dropping bombs on Indian troops during a war. So yeah. It is a failure.

When India buys weapons it is getting ripped off, when Pakistan does it.....

That soup drama of "mother of all defense deals" is a fine example.

 

[rockstar08]

Learn how this world works and where our interests lie. When people of Pakistan start electing good leaders who put the country on path of progress, then you can show the arrogance. Remember even Israel gets criticised. That doesn't mean it doesn't benefit from US. This is how US works. Learn how to work with it. We have missed many trains to prosperity through our silly attitudes. Because we don't want to learn how modern world works.

It is stupid to compare Pakistan with Israel , the technology Israel have access , you cant even dream about, at least not in this life time .. i do know how the world works, that is why i am Saying .. US can and probably give those F-sola for free, but what it will cost us ? our respect and Dignity which i doubt our Generals have .
or to be precise the PAF shit tanks .
US works the way they suppose to, they still dont trust their Allies like Germany and Japan and yet they have all access to US technology , Pakistan been trashed by US govt and Congress man over time for supporting Taliban , and they are playing gilli danda in Afghanistan for last 14 years .. Taliban still attack Kabul whenever they want ..
for Those F-16's we will letting more American entering our bases , keeping an eyes on our stuff and so on .. its like we are presenting our country , stripping it naked to be gang raped ..

There are no strings attached. Americans don't care if those F16 bomb IA formations during a war. Days of F16 going to an end. So no need to be much frustrated. These are last few days of American blackmailing.

you do know we need codes before every flight of F-16 ?
and Kargil is in front of us .. what if in next war , our fleet of 16's will be grounded .. what about Sanctions ? 100 F-16 our so called Front line fighters will be like Mehran ..

 

[nangyale]

The very fact the sale/transfer has been delayed shows that it is working on some level. I haven't seem a single arms sale to India face any level of scrutiny whatsoever.

Are you sure it's been delayed?
What was the original transfer date and what's the revised transfer date, do you have the actual details?