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Right! The Yanks are used to playing games.
Anyway, getting a permanent seat in the lame duck UNSC is of zero consequence. It doesn't put more food on the table for the poor.
Everyone is playing games. It's India that is taking this game in a wrong way. Just because India achieved independence by begging does not mean that it will get unsc seat by the same method. The world respect hard power, not wimpy beggars.
So india should make its separate league like they did in cricket :-D :-DWith these criteria Japan (pacific not imperial) fits more on the bill so does Germany & UK should have no place in UNSC as it is just a state of USA.
Its a simply WW2 order.
Even diplomats know that it is just lollypop but you need to remind that you are contender to the world nothing else.
After 15 years what influence UK & France bring compare to India ?
We are committed to do so then why not :So india should make its separate league like they did in cricket :-D :-D
China+Russia+America have already made it plain that they are firmly opposed to any change in veto powers.
That's what they say openly.
In practice though, they are even shutting down any "discussion" on UNSC reform.
As for Germany, they are already a part of the P5+1.
Well then ask again in 15 years.
Considering that the US recently rejected even having a debate (along with Russia and China) to any changes to the structure to the UNSC, against Indian demands, I highly doubt the US is serious.
The Americans are using India, they'll never seriously give a permanent seat to another nation, creating another potential rival at the council.
It's a case of say one thing and do another. Just like I said on the original thread. These statements were to be expected.
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Well politics and all this subtle narratives aside, there will come a time eventually when they can't ignore the significance and importance of a reshuffled UNSC with India and other developing/developed counties in it. All we have to do now is focus on our growth (economy, military, social) and not get too sidetracked with these no issues.. We've survived and we'll survive without a permanent UNSC seat..
true. India,Germany,Japan and Brazil (in future) deserves seat in UNSC.These are just political & diplomatic tussle nothing more.
Current UNSC is a WW2 era setup which is in her last stage.
In 15 years we outpace UK & France in economically & militarily & already have outpaced Russia economically.
Japan is shelving his pacific attitude & Germany is undisputed emperor of EU.
Current trend in Brazil is not optimistic but I am hopeful for future.
This all situation makes 2 members of UNSC inappropriate for world security council.
With these criteria Japan (pacific not imperial) fits more on the bill so does Germany & UK should have no place in UNSC as it is just a state of USA.
Its a simply WW2 order.
Even diplomats know that it is just lollypop but you need to remind that you are contender to the world nothing else.
After 15 years what influence UK & France bring compare to India ?