US committed to a permanent seat for India in a reformed UN Security Council

[Ragnar]

Indoor plumbing is not a source of food for us.

where is that other faggot- rectum juice..

 

[Shotgunner51]

Lmao. If we didnt play any role in WWII, then tell me why only the U.K,U.S,and U.S.S.R were the ones who formed the UNSC and wrote the current world rules? where was your so called eastern block countries?

You are really funny, your anti western tone is rather hilarious, not even the Chinese and Indians make such radical empty rhetorics against the West/U.S , even more funny when you live and benefit from that very same west instead of helping your own home country grow and challenge the west(writing anti western comments on PDF day and night wont help your country/region in any way). Its like me despising/hating Russia and still immigrating there to live and help fund Russia's government imperialism/aggressiveness.

Well again mate, check these about creation of UN:

• The earliest concrete plan for a new world organization began under the aegis of the US State Department in 1939.
• "Four Policemen" was coined to refer four major Allied countries, United States, United Kingdom, Soviet Union, and Republic of China, which was emerged in Declaration by United Nations.
• On New Year's Day 1942, President Roosevelt, Prime Minister Churchill, Maxim Litvinov, of the USSR, and T. V. Soong, of China, signed a short document which later came to be known as the United Nations Declaration and the next day the representatives of twenty-two other nations (Note: France wasn't there) added their signatures.
• During WWII, the United Nations became the official term for the Allies. To join countries had to sign the Declaration and declare war on the Axis.
• The Cairo Conference, held from November 22 to 26, 1943, were attended by the three countries of US, UK, and China. The Yalta Conference (Crimea Conference, Argonaut Conference) held from February 4 to 11, 1945, were attended by the three countries of US, UK and Russia. The serious differences and broad-span conflict of interests (e.g. Mongolia) between KMT-led-China and USSR inhibited bilateral dialogue, and US became a mediator between the two.
  
• The United Nations was formulated and negotiated among the delegations from the Soviet Union, the UK, the US and Republic of China in Dumbarton Oaks Conference. On October 7, 1944, the delegates agreed on a tentative set of proposals (Proposals for the Establishment of a General International Organization) to meet these goals. The discussions at the conference regarding the make-up of the United Nations included which states would be invited to become members, the formation of the United Nations Security Council, and the right of veto that would be given to permanent members of the Security Council. Charles E. Bohlen writes that the Dumbarton Oaks Conference "settled all but two issues regarding the organization of the United Nations—the voting procedure in the Security Council and the Soviet pressure for the admission of all sixteen of the Soviet republics to the General Assembly. Apparently, it never occurred to anyone on the U.S. side to counter with a proposal that all 48 states be admitted to the General Assembly. It took the conference at Yalta, plus further negotiations with Moscow, before these issues were solved." At the United Nations Conference on International Organization, also known as the San Francisco Conference, in April–June 1945, the Security Council veto powers were established and the text of the United Nations Charter was finalized.
  
• The heads of the delegations of the sponsoring countries took turns as chairman of the plenary meetings:Anthony Eden of Britain, Edward Stettinius of the United States, T. V. Soong of China, and Vyacheslav Molotov of the Soviet Union. At the later meetings, Lord Halifax deputized for Mr. Eden, V. K. Wellington Koo for T. V. Soong, and Mr Gromyko for Mr. Molotov.
• The UN officially came into existence 24 October 1945, upon ratification of the Charter by the five (France was then included) permanent members of the Security Council.

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"The Four Policemen" was a term coined by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, to refer to four major Allies of World War II and founders of the United Nations (UN): the United States, United Kingdom, Soviet Union, and Republic of China.

It was a pragmatic system based on the primacy of the strong — a "trusteeship of the powerful," as he then called it, or, as he put it later, "the Four Policemen." The concept was, as Senator Arthur H Vandenberg noted in his diary in April 1944, "anything but a wild-eyed internationalist dream of a world state.... It is based virtually on a four-power alliance." Eventually this proved to be both the potential strength and the actual weakness of the future UN, an organization theoretically based on a concert of great powers whose own mutual hostility, as it turned out, was itself the greatest potential threat to world peace.

Four Policemen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Each of the Four Policemen was to maintain order in its respective sphere: Britain in its empire and in Western Europe; the Soviet Union in Eastern Europe and the central Eurasian landmass; China in East Asia and the Western Pacific; and the United States in the Western Hemisphere.

 

[Luca1]

Well again mate, check these about creation of UN:

• The earliest concrete plan for a new world organization began under the aegis of the US State Department in 1939.
• "Four Policemen" was coined to refer four major Allied countries, United States, United Kingdom, Soviet Union, and Republic of China, which was emerged in Declaration by United Nations.
• On New Year's Day 1942, President Roosevelt, Prime Minister Churchill, Maxim Litvinov, of the USSR, and T. V. Soong, of China, signed a short document which later came to be known as the United Nations Declaration and the next day the representatives of twenty-two other nations (Note: France wasn't there) added their signatures.
• During WWII, the United Nations became the official term for the Allies. To join countries had to sign the Declaration and declare war on the Axis.
• The Cairo Conference, held from November 22 to 26, 1943, were attended by the three countries of US, UK, and China. The Yalta Conference (Crimea Conference, Argonaut Conference) held from February 4 to 11, 1945, were attended by the three countries of US, UK and Russia. The serious differences and broad-span conflict of interests (e.g. Mongolia) between KMT-led-China and USSR inhibited bilateral dialogue, and US became a mediator between the two.
  
• The United Nations was formulated and negotiated among the delegations from the Soviet Union, the UK, the US and Republic of China in Dumbarton Oaks Conference. On October 7, 1944, the delegates agreed on a tentative set of proposals (Proposals for the Establishment of a General International Organization) to meet these goals. The discussions at the conference regarding the make-up of the United Nations included which states would be invited to become members, the formation of the United Nations Security Council, and the right of veto that would be given to permanent members of the Security Council. Charles E. Bohlen writes that the Dumbarton Oaks Conference "settled all but two issues regarding the organization of the United Nations—the voting procedure in the Security Council and the Soviet pressure for the admission of all sixteen of the Soviet republics to the General Assembly. Apparently, it never occurred to anyone on the U.S. side to counter with a proposal that all 48 states be admitted to the General Assembly. It took the conference at Yalta, plus further negotiations with Moscow, before these issues were solved." At the United Nations Conference on International Organization, also known as the San Francisco Conference, in April–June 1945, the Security Council veto powers were established and the text of the United Nations Charter was finalized.
  
• The heads of the delegations of the sponsoring countries took turns as chairman of the plenary meetings:Anthony Eden of Britain, Edward Stettinius of the United States, T. V. Soong of China, and Vyacheslav Molotov of the Soviet Union. At the later meetings, Lord Halifax deputized for Mr. Eden, V. K. Wellington Koo for T. V. Soong, and Mr Gromyko for Mr. Molotov.
• The UN officially came into existence 24 October 1945, upon ratification of the Charter by the five (France was then included) permanent members of the Security Council.

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"The Four Policemen" was a term coined by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, to refer to four major Allies of World War II and founders of the United Nations (UN): the United States, United Kingdom, Soviet Union, and Republic of China.

It was a pragmatic system based on the primacy of the strong — a "trusteeship of the powerful," as he then called it, or, as he put it later, "the Four Policemen." The concept was, as Senator Arthur H Vandenberg noted in his diary in April 1944, "anything but a wild-eyed internationalist dream of a world state.... It is based virtually on a four-power alliance." Eventually this proved to be both the potential strength and the actual weakness of the future UN, an organization theoretically based on a concert of great powers whose own mutual hostility, as it turned out, was itself the greatest potential threat to world peace.

Four Policemen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Each of the Four Policemen was to maintain order in its respective sphere: Britain in its empire and in Western Europe; the Soviet Union in Eastern Europe and the central Eurasian landmass; China in East Asia and the Western Pacific; and the United States in the Western Hemisphere.

So India falls under the English sphere. India in UNSC is represented by Britain. So India need to consult with Britain on international matters. @mike2000 is back what so you think?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

India must feel like r****m juice after being rejected by the UNSC

@Jango

 

[Economic superpower]

So India falls under the English sphere. India in UNSC is represented by Britain. So India need to consult with Britain on international matters. @mike2000 is back what so you think?

Considering Britain created India, Britain should decide the future of India.

 

[dray]

Considering the number of Indians that die from starvation, maybe it should be a source of food

Indoor plumbing is a pre-requisite to being a civilised country. You can't be living in the medieval ages and beg to be included in the UNSC.

No indoor plumbing, no UNSC seat for YOU
No indoor plumbing, no veto power for YOU

Maybe if you beg by getting on your knees, then China might consider it

What next, no cockroach fry, no veto power?

 

[Economic superpower]

What next, no cockroach fry, no veto power?

You can make all the jokes all you want mate. If it soothes your humiliated ego, go right ahead.

I'm just absolutely thrilled India will not be getting even a seat at the UNSC let alone veto power. Just wonderful news

India begged and begged and got rejected. Meanwhile you joined our AIIB while we rejected your UNSC bid

Keep on begging

It is not over yet. Help yourself to some dead foetus soup and give those 2 mm eyes some rest.

My my, aren't you an angry little Indian. What's the matter? Didn't get your UNSC seat? Shucks

Resorting to racism is a classic response from an Indian after being throughly humiliated. Very expected response. Just makes it more enjoyable

I understand your anger mate, you begged but STILL got rejected.

OUCH!

 

[Hindustani78]

Last Updated: Monday, August 17, 2015 - 21:28
UAE supports India's candidature for permanent seat in UNSC | Zee News

Abu Dhabi: The UAE on Monday extended support to India's candidature for a permanent seat in the UN Security Council as the two countries called for an expeditious reform of the UN body.

The assurance came after Prime Minister Narendra Modi's talks with the UAE leadership, including Crown Prince Mohamed Bin Zayad Al Nahyan.

"The 70th anniversary of the United Nations is an occasion to press for early reforms of the United Nations, and that the Inter-Governmental Negotiations on the reforms of the UN Security Council should be concluded expeditiously," a joint statement issued after the talks said.

Prime Minister thanked UAE for its support for India's candidature for permanent membership of a reformed United Nations Security Council.

PTI

 

[Abingdonboy]

which will not happen... india at present is not a leader but sadly a western camp follower.

What nonsense is this?

India has the worst voting record against the US with the exception of perhaps Cuba!

 

[jamahir]

1.

Ainslie Thomas Embree (born January 1, 1921) is an American Indologist and historian.

2. where did he speak of post-nehru india being independent or in the eastern bloc?? even with nehru, india participated in the korea war on the nato side ( under "uno" ), and this will have been a few years before the event of ( the speaker mentions this ) john foster dulles meeting nehru and ayub khan.

3. where is any "indian assertiveness" mentioned ( as given in the vid title )?? in fact, from my point# 2, it was india sadly which was in slavery ( which the vid title attaches to pakistan ).

you ultra-nationalist/sanghi types really want american/western appreciation so badly.

i listened to that vile vid for long enough... typical cnn nonsense about "rogue state" north korea and "ascending china".

why don't you fellows understand that usa government wants india to be its policeman/thug in the east southern hemisphere along with japan and australia to contain china??

India has the worst voting record against the US with the exception of perhaps Cuba!

1. what do you mean by the word "worst"??

2. what can you tell me of indian voting about the libya and syria regime-change programs of nato??

3. for the western invasion of iraq in 2003, usa government got the indian government ( bjp ) to get 17,000 soldiers of the indian army to help western operations in iraq.

 

[Abingdonboy]

3. for the western invasion of iraq in 2003, usa government got the indian government ( bjp ) to get 17,000 soldiers of the indian army to help western operations in iraq.

Is this a joke????

 

[jamahir]

Is this a joke????

no... you can enquire with journalists and bureaucrats, and more immediately search the web.

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@Abingdonboy

from ( Washington presses India to send troops to Iraq - World Socialist Web Site )...

The US has requested that India send a full army brigade of more than 17,000 troops to take on the responsibility of administering the northern sector of Iraq—an area of sharp tensions between ethnic Kurds and Arabs. If New Delhi agrees, the Indian force will be larger than the present British contingent and second only to the US military force itself.

President Bush and top US officials first made the proposal in early May when India’s National Security Advisor, Brajesh Mishra, visited Washington. The issue was subsequently discussed in the Cabinet Security Committee (CCS) twice in May but no decision was taken. Instead New Delhi sought further clarification about its proposed role in Iraq and the command structure under which its troops would operate.

 

[Abingdonboy]

no... you can enquire with journalists and bureaucrats, and more immediately search the web.

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@Abingdonboy

from ( Washington presses India to send troops to Iraq - World Socialist Web Site )...

And did those Indian troops ever set foot on Iraqi soil?



AFTER THE WAR - OTHER FORCES - India Decides Not to Send Troops to Iraq Now - NYTimes.com

 

[jamahir]

And did those Indian troops ever set foot on Iraqi soil?

AFTER THE WAR - OTHER FORCES - India Decides Not to Send Troops to Iraq Now - NYTimes.com

The Indians' vote not to send troops was taken today by the cabinet's committee on security, after several months of uncertainty and debate.

the uncertainty came about because of others protesting... the later uncertainty came about because of of the initial certainty of sending them... the bjp government and the army high command were all ready and asking usa government for details on proposed role and command-structure/protocol to operate within the western-made "coalition of the killing".

Media reports spoke of antiwar demonstrations in hundreds of cities and towns. A poll in the current weekly newsmagazine Outlook showed 69 percent of respondents opposed to sending troops to Iraq; other polls have put the figure as high as 87 percent.

The politics loomed larger with elections coming this fall for five state legislatures, four of them in the Hindi-speaking heartland that is controlled by the opposition Congress Party. These elections are expected to set the tone for national elections in September 2004.

see why the soldiers didn't go??

 

[Hindustani78]

what is your contribution in world peace by the way ? LOL 1,80,000 troops in Africa not world lol ... You never ever participate in any global conflicts pr issues... just batain batain batain... nothing else more...

India has no power on ground in terms of military power projection and the solo powers knew that India will never ever participate with them in any conflict because of fear of backfire.

These solo powers like Russia, USA and China which include France and UK are completely independent in military and military hardware. On the other side India is highly DEPENDENT on foreign military hardware. India is biggest arm importer. Accept the reality no one is interested in power sharing or offering Veto power tu duur ke baat hey even UNSC permanent seat (without veto).... unke aankh say dekhoo jinhonay agaay lagaya huwa hey.. they're just getting $$ from you and thats all... US knew that keep pushing India in their circle while passing such statements. In real US is also not interested too...

PM Modi concerned over no say to countries providing troops | Zee News

United Nations: Prime Minister Narendra Modi has announced that India will contribute an additional battalion of 850 troops for UN peacekeeping operations, but also raised concern that troop contributing countries have no role in decision-making.

"India's commitment to UN Peacekeeping remains strong and will grow," Modi said in his address to the UN Summit on Peace Operations here on Monday..

Announcing India's new intended contributions, Modi said the country will contribute additional battalion of up to 850 troops in existing or new operations and three police units with higher representation of female peacekeepers.

He also announced India's commitment to provide critical enablers; deployment of technical personnel in UN missions; and, additional training for peacekeepers at facilities in India and in the field.

"Success of peacekeeping ultimately depends not on the weapons they (soldiers) carry but by the moral force of the UNSC," he told the gathering including Obama, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and leaders from a large number of other countries.

"The problems arise to a large extent because troop contributing countries do not have a role in the decision-making process," he said, adding "they do not have adequate representation in senior management and as Force Commanders".

Underlining the difficult circumstances under which troops have to do their duty, Modi said peacekeepers today are called upon not only to maintain peace and security, but also address a range of complex challenges.

"Mandates are ambitious but resources are limited... Today's peacekeepers are called upon not only to maintain peace and security, but also address a range of challenges," the Prime Minister said.

He called for peacekeeping missions to be deployed prudently with full recognition of their limitations and in support of political solutions.

Thanking Obama for hosting the summit, he said it is timely not just because of the 70th anniversary of the world body but also because the security environment is changing, the demands on peacekeeping are growing and the resources are harder to find.

Modi expressed pleasure that the High-level Independent Panel on Peace Operations has recognized these issues and hoped that the panel's recommendations will be considered soon.

India is among the largest contributors to the UN peacekeeping operations with over 1,80,000 troops having participated in missions - more than from any other country.

The country has participated in 48 of the 69 UN missions so far and was the first country to contribute a Female Formed Police Unit to UN Mission in Liberia. It lost 161 of its peacekeepers in the line of duty.
India has also been providing training to peacekeeping officers from a large number of countries and till date has trained nearly 800 officers from 82 countries.


Modi pointed out that Indian soldiers had been working on peacekeeping missions since World War II during which it lost more than 24,000 troops and nearly half of that went missing.

"This legacy of sacrifice is shared by three nations present here," he said, in an apparent reference to Pakistan and Bangladesh.

He said that a memorial wall for the fallen peacekeepers should be erected expeditiously, for which India will contribute financially also.

PTI


First Published: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 05:31