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lets go back to our all weather friend
The chinese may also offer the milimetere wave radar which the u.s ones lack ----- enough to meet our requirements
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lets go back to our all weather friend
My knowledge about helicopters is quite meagre but I wonder why Pakistan isn't considering Rolls-Royce Gem engine that is being used on the original Agusta A129 Mangusta by the Italians? We could either go directly to Britain or negotiate the Italian version, if possible. I don't think either countries would be as problematic as the U.S. If able to be integrated Pakistan should consider the engines with ToT.
Additionally, would the Rolls-Royce Gem engines be able to integrate with Z-10? @Bilal Khan (Quwa)
Same people are still waiting for block 70
Also what i don't understand why Helicopter are still considered in the age of modern warfare especially when you have drones.
Milgem engines too?
This helicopter has an engine manufactured by Honeywell Aerospace and Rolls Royce is its parent company, if pak can't procure these helicopter then how do you expect them to procure another engine also produced by the parent company ??
If this is correct than solution is to seek joint venture (JV) with Turkey and get some European companies onboard. This should have been done much earlier but better late than never.American restrictions don't apply to T129 per-say. They apply to American equipments onboard T129. If Pakistan can replace them with Italian/European equipment the Americans would not have any control over their exports. For the past couple of decades the Europeans have been trying hard to phaseout American equipments from their technologies because of the American export control laws & they have had considerable success in it.
Neither PAF nor PDF believes in thisPdf defence "experts" would likely ditch a cost effective and state of the art weapon system in favour of any thing handicapped if has western origin -------
e.g a Pakistani version of f16 would still perfrom way better in war than a j10/j17 even though it has no aesa ,standoff weapon carrying capability and is over priced without Pakistani having access to its source codes ------- still is "best"
Making a RELIABLE PROVEN engine is not like building a car or a bike. Lol. It takes huge investment , skills, constant quality checks by putting engine under the most severe stress conditions etc and most of all time. If not many countries will be making engines here and there . So Pakistan will have to wait for quite some time for that.I was really hoping that by some miracle Turkey would have finished its indigenous engine for this aircraft
That will necessitate a change in design which the Turks are not ready to do just for one deal i suppose. Moreover, you guys forget that Turkey is not the only one involved in this project there are european companies involved as well. So their approval is also necessary as well.Or for the time being turkey fits the helicopter with comparable euro Russian or Ukrainian engines
And latter batches with indigenous ones