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All the people were not forces to give pledge to Yazid, some did it willfully. Same is the case with the following caliphs may they be abbassids or fatimids or even ottomons. There were some who pledged and some who didnot. And some were forced, the first ottomon caliph even had to prison the last abbassid caliph captured from Egypt to force him to abdicate and pledge to ottomons.My dear
If you read what I write carefully, you ll find answers to most of your questions... Yazid was not given pledge by the will of the people rather it was taken by force... Ameer Mawviyah ordered two soldiers to follow all the important
Al-Mutawakkil III - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Al-Mutawakkil III (Arabic: المتوكل على الله الثالث‎ (died 1543) was caliph from 1508 to 1516, and again in 1517. He was the last caliph of the later, Egyptian-based period of the Abbasid dynasty. Since the Mongol sack of Baghdad and the execution of Caliph Al-Musta'sim in 1258, the Abbasid caliphs had resided in Cairo, nominal rulers used to legitimize the actual rule of the Mamluk sultans.
Al-Mutawakkil III was deposed briefly in 1516 by his predecessor Al-Mustamsik, but was restored to the caliphate the following year. In 1517, Ottoman sultan Selim I managed to defeat the Mamluk Sultanate, and made Egypt part of the Ottoman Empire. Al-Mutawakkil III was captured together with his family and transported to Istanbul. According to a questionable story invented[citation needed] by later Ottoman historians, he formally surrendered the title of caliph as well as its outward emblemsthe sword and mantle of Muhammadto Ottoman sultan Selim I."
Sahabah RA of that time and told the soldiers that if they dont give the pledge for his son Yazid, they should kill them!!! So because pledge has to be given by the will of the people, this pledge was null and void and Yazid is not considered a Caliph... later Ummayads however were given pledge with the will of the people... they were capable administrators and this is enough for leadership... They were vicious in their personal animosity but they continued to apply Islam on the population...
Are you talking about able rulers like Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan who even attacked Makkah, bombarded Kaaba with catapults and destroyed most of it in 64 Hijri. The commander of the forces being none other than the uncle of MBQ Hajjaj Bin Yusuf.
If you want to hear more of their abilities I can continue for ever.
No where will you see in Ummayad or Abbasid history that they enforced Riba on the people... or taxed people for anything other than what Islam permits to be taxed... You have to make a distinction between personal and general... Discussions of statecraft become petty when you start taking personal issues into it...
Does Islam allow the newly converted muslims to be taxed heavily?
These new converts were called mawalis and given a second grade status. Again if you need more info let me know.
Islam does NOT require pledge to a Caliph by ALL Muslims... however the existence of a pledge is a Fard e Ayn i.e an established and necessary obligation upon Muslims... Muslims cannot be without an Ameer for more than three days and two nights...
Is there an ayat in Quran supporting this claim of yours. Check out Shahadat of Hazrat Osman and please let me know how many days was his body left in his house not allowed to be removed and how many days later was Hazrat Ali made the caliph?
It is of such a vital importance that the Sahabah delayed the burial of the Prophet saw until Abu Bakr was selected as Ameer... It is labelled a Fard e Kifayah in fiqh and if the population is negligent towards this obligation then all Muslims share the burden of sin... The Sunnah and Ijma of Sahabah has plenty of details for this... One can also recommend a successor however one cannot force pledge for the successor from the people like it was done for Yazid...
Mullah Omar was never given pledge as Ameer of Muslims... He was the leader of the Taliban and he himself refused to accept any pledge as Ameer ul Momineen when certain people offered it to him... it would have been silly anyway... He did call himself the leader of the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan however... there is no such thing as a nationalistic islamic state anyway... Islamic state exists for all Muslims or does not exist at all if it defines itself according to Shia, Sunni, Afghan, Pakistani dimensions...
The tom dick and harry comment shows that you do not understand how politics works in the world... consider this... How many people chose Musharaf as leader of Pakistan? answer... three corps commanders... It was enough for Musharaf... It shall be enough for the return of the Caliphate... People who think they can get a pledge by a few of no political importance around them may claim to be Caliphs... someone could prescribe them some medications however...
He was given authority when Salahuddin was all too powerful already and the caliph had little choice left. And how Salahuddin came to power was not through appointment by caliphate but a lot of political tussle to state it politely. But thats another discussion I am more than willing to have but in a separate thread.
There is no discussion needed on this... You are merely speculating about the historical facts... If Salahuddin had such greed for being Caliph he could have taken that title for himself also as you yourself suggest that he was way too powerful for the Caliph himself...
The issue is straight forward... Salahuddin may God bless his good soul had no desire for ruling, rather this capability was as a military commander which he used to unite all Muslims against the evil Crusaders and liberated Jerusalem once again for the flag of Islam to be raised there... Allah Akbar!!!
No Salahaddin couldnt for a number of reasons. Most of his life he was busy dealing with the crusaders and later some dirty politics in his own court. Not to mention that he didn't live very long. Also by that time muslims more or less had agreed in principle that the caliph should always be an Abbassid. There were even a few ahadees to strengthen this claim and Salahuddin despite all his abilities was not an abbassid.
As for your last point... Its obvious and plain and simple... We cannot mention names obviously because our enemies are hell bent on preventing the rise of the Islamic State... we see Munafiqeen all around us at all times... Do you really think we can trust every tom dick and harry with such sensitive information and cause problems for the sincere elements within Pakistan or other countries... Call it luck call it destiny... It is bound to happen... Your wishing us good luck holds no meaning in that sense
Readers be prepared... The Caliphate is certainly coming back... You should all start studying its institutions so that we have a natural accountability amongst the people for our leaders... We dont intend to allow the Caliphs a free hand to replace the current corrupt leaders with corrupt leaders in the name of Islam... It is about the method and mercy of Prophethood and everything else is rejected... InshaAllah once the Caliphate comes back... we will hold a gathering for all members of this forum!!! even some Indians shall be invited... Sounds good?
Again what muslims need today is enlightenment, education and riddance of the extremist mullahs. Caliphate doesn't even fall anywhere in the list its just a form of cruel monarchy muslims are much better without.