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I see many here are living in a dream world and keep obsessing about a far off future which no one has seen and no one has any idea about. My message to these people - shun your dream lands and start living in the present. Do something worthwhile for the benefit of your countrymen, for your co religionists and for humanity. Wasting time and energy on ephemeral ideas that are out of reach of mere mortals will not buy you any prosperity or freedom. Give concrete ideas that will produce results - not just paper tigers.
 
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My this thead is for my brother who are talking about khilafah and not to those who are muslims but Librals and they have their own islam it they want others to belive in their version of islam ( to them please dont pain themselves to answer) thanks

In my openion tell the people what you know and let them decide themselve what is right for them.

Prophecies from the Qur’an

The triumph of the Byzantines over the Persians

1. The Byzantine and Persian Empires were the super-powers of the time. It was during the years when the few believers were severely persecuted in Makka that the Persians utterly defeated the Byzantines. They had sweeping victories, and conquered Aleppo, Antioch, and the chief Syrian provinces, including Damascus. Jerusalem fell to their arms in 614-615. The Christians were massacred and their churches burnt. The Persian flood of conquest went on to Egypt, and reached as far as Tripoli in North Africa. Another Persian army ravaged Asia Minor and reached right up to the gates of Constantinople. The Makkan pagans rejoiced greatly, and redoubled their taunts and persecution against the Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, whose Message was a renewal of the Message of Jesus preached in Palestine. The following Qur’anic verses, which were revealed just at that time, gave certain tidings of a very near victory of the Romans over the Perisans:

The Romans have been defeated in a land close by, but they, after their defeat, will be victorious, within nine years. God’s is the command in the former case and in the latter, and on that day believers will rejoice, with the help of God. He helps to victory whom He wills. He is the All-Mighty, the All-Compassionate. (al-Rum, 30.1-5)

No one at that time could make such a prediction. But the Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, conveyed these Divine Revelations to his followers. They confirmed him without hesitation and Abu Bakr bet the Makkan polytheists that the Romans would be victorious in nine years. Heraclius, the Roman Emperor attacked the Persians initially by sea in 622 (the year of the Hijra), and after decisive battles and three successive campaigns, put them to rout in a few years. His victories happened at the same time as the believers won the victory of Badr over the Makkan polytheists. Thus the verses above contained two predictions, both of which came true in nine years.

The Qur’an gave the news of the conquest of Makka two years before

2. It was only six years after the Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, had emigrated to Madina that he left for Makka for a minor pilgrimage. However, the Makkans stopped him at Hudaybiya and a peaceful treaty was concluded after negotiations. Some articles of the Treaty were objected to by the believers but the Qur’anic verses which were revealed following the conclusion of the Treaty described it as a manifest victory and gave the believers the decisive glad tiding, which is as follows:

In truth, God fulfilled the vision of His Messenger: You will surely enter the Sacred Mosque, if God wills, in full security; you will have your heads shaved, your hair shortened, and you will have nothing to fear. He knew what you knew not, and He granted, besides this, a near victory. He it is Who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion. God is enough for a witness. (al-Fath, 48.27–8)

One year later the Muslims performed the minor pilgrimage and the year after they conquered Makka. Also, Islam has been prevalent over all other religions for centuries and, if God wills, it will have a world-wide superiority in a near future.

The Qur’an gave the news that the dead body of Pharaoh would one day be discovered
3. In ancient Egypt, Pharaoh used to torture the Children of Israel. God sent Moses to him with the mission of inviting him to believe in One God and allow the Israelites to leave Egypt with Moses. Pharaoh refused and the struggle between them continued for a long time. However, one night Moses succeeded in marching towards the frontier with his people but Pharaoh, becoming aware of his attempt, set out to follow him. When Moses reached the Red Sea, he touched it with his staff, and a furrow opened across the sea. Pharaoh attempted to follow him, but was engulfed with his legions. While narrating this event, The Qur’an makes a very interesting prediction:

Today We shall preserve your body that you may be a sign to those after you: although most men give no heed to Our signs. (Yunus, 10.92)

The dead body of Pharaoh was later found floating on the Western shores of the Sinai peninsula. The native residents can still show you to this land, which is now known as Jabal Firawn (Hill of Pharaoh). A few miles from this hill is a hot spring called Hammam Firawn (the Bath of Pharaoh).

a white donkey made of iron whose span between its two ears is 40 cubits." This hadith refers to what the Dajjal will ride on. The Prophet (pbuh) is also reported to have said that the Dajjal will enter into every city. When asked what the Dajjal's speed will be like the Prophet (pbuh) is reported to have replied: "Like a wind that leaves a cloud in its trail." and so on. These are particularly related to the coming of the Dajjal. There is also, I have heard in a lecture by Hamza Yusuf, an ayat regarding Pollution as one of the signs of the end of time - i.e. a thick clear smoke that one can see in the sky; "Then watch thou for the Day that the sky will bring forth a kind of smoke Plainly visible
4.The Qur'an says:"Allah has promised to those of you who believe, and do good deeds, that He will surely grant them in the land inheritance of power as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion which He has chosen for them. And that He will change their state after fear to one of security and peace. They will worship Me alone and not associate aught with Me." (24:55) And also: "Say to those who deny faith, soon you will be vanquished." (3:12) and "When comes the help of Allah and Victory, and you see the people enter Allah's religion in multitudes . . ." (110:1-2)

The first verse was revealed at a time of the Muslim's weakness, promising the righteous victory, and the second predicting the peoples entering into Islam in crowds, and so it came to pass, after the capture of Mecca, and in the time of the Caliphs Abu Bakr, 'Umar, 'Uthman and 'Ali, who were from the most pious companions of the Prophet, were established by Allah in the land, defeating the Persian and Roman empires, so that Islam was established from Spain to parts of China in a mere twenty years. This, in part, fulfills another prophecy of the Qur'an: "It is He who has sent the Messenger with guidance, and the religion of truth, to make it triumphant over all religions." (9:32) Christianity, Judaism, paganism have never regained any lasting dominance, physically and intellectually since the coming of Islam. The secular philosophies of communism and capitalism are in the process of being dealt death blows. At the present rate of growth Islam will over take Christianity by 2025 in terms of numbers. See also Qur'an 48:18-21 and 1:13, which promise victory.

Tidings of the Last Day

5. A considerable part of the Qur’an is about the events of the Last Day. The Qur’an describes how the world will be destroyed and re-built again and how the dead will be raised, assembled in the Place of Mustering, and, after being judged, will go to either Paradise or Hell. The Qur’an also gives a vivid description of Paradise and Hell and the life in them.
 
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Examples of the Prophet’s predictions which exist in books of Tradition (hadeeths)

1 ‘Umar reports in a narration recorded in Sahih al-Muslim:

‘Before the Battle of Badr started, God’s Messenger, upon him be peace and blessings, walked around the battlefield and pointed to some locations, saying, Abu Jahl will be killed here, ‘Utba here, Shayba here, Walid here, and so on. By God, we found, after the battle, the dead bodies of all those men in the exact places that God’s Messenger had pointed out.’

The Prophet predicted the Mongol invasion

5. The Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, predicted the Mongol invasion, saying:

The Hour will not come before you fight against a people with red faces, small, slant eyes and flat noses. They wear hairy leather boots

The Prophet predicted the conquest of many important cities

7. According to authentic narrations, the Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, gave his community the glad tidings that they would conquer Damascus, Jerusalem, Iraq, Persia, Istanbul (Constantinople) and Cyprus, and that the religion of Islam would reach as far as the remotest corners of the world in the east and west.

The Prophet predicted the forms of government after him

8. The Prophet declared:

This affair began with Prophethood and as a mercy; then it will be mercy and Caliphate; afterwards it will change into a cruel monarchy, and finally into an iniquity and tyranny. He also prophesied: Surely, the Caliphate after me will last thirty years; afterwards it will a cruel monarchy.

Whatever the noble Prophet predicted came true.

The Prophet foretold the future victories of Sa‘d

10. As narrated in a authentic Tradition, the noble Prophet of God, upon him be peace and blessings, said to Sa‘d ibn Abi Waqqas when the latter was gravely ill:

It is hoped that you will be spared so that some people may benefit through you and some others be harmed through you.

By this, he suggested that Sa‘d would be a great commander and make many conquests, and while many peoples would benefit from him by converting to Islam, many others would be harmed through him as a result of the collapse of their states.

Sa‘d, just as predicted by the holy Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, took the command of the Muslim armies and destroyed the Persian Sassanid Empire, bringing many peoples within the guidance of Islam.

The Prophet predicted the appearance of Mukhtar and Hajjaj

12. According to an authentic narration, the Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, declared:

From the tribe of Thaqif will appear a liar who claims Prophethood and a blood-thirsty tyrant.

By this, he gave tidings of the notorious Mukhtar, who claimed Prophethood, and the criminal Hajjaj, who killed tens of thousands of people


The Prophet predicted the conquest of Istanbul
13. Again, according to an authentic narration, the Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, declared:

Surely, Constantinople (Istanbul) will be conquered (by my community); how blessed the commander who will conquer it, and how blessed his army.

He thus foretold the conquest of Istanbul by Muslims, and indicated the high spiritual rank of Sultan Mehmed, the Conqueror, and the virtuousness of his army. What he foretold took place centuries later.

The Prophet mentioned that there would be signs forewarning the approach of the last day.

a. The barefooted bedouins competing in building tall buildings. Today we find in the Arabian Peninsula, the Arabs who used to be impoverished herders of camels and sheep, are competing in building the tallest tower blocks. Two of the latest examples are Kingdom Center in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia and Al Faisaliah Center in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

. The Mosques would be like palaces. This is clearly the case, even though the Prophet ordered simplicity in the houses of Allah, the mosques have become more and more fantastic, with golden domes, marbled floors, lavish carpets and chandeliers
c. Disappearance of trustworthiness, so much so that one would only be able to say: "I know a trustworthy person in such-and-such town."

d. The increase in killing, so that the one who kills does not know why he killed, and the one killed does not know why he was killed. I was recently sent an article from the Washington Post about the rise of gang warfare. Part of the initiation ceremony was for a new gang member(some times as young as eleven) to shoot someone. The second highest cause of death from fifteen to thirty five in the US are gun related. The massacre of civilians in the Vietnam War by American troops who had little idea why they were there, and the increase of such conflicts, is further illustration of the fulfillment of this prophecy. As are the rise of insane mass murders, of children killing children, such as Jamie Bulger.

e. The increase of the use of riba (usury/interest) so that no one will able to escape being tainted by it. This clearly the state of the world economy today.

f. The enemies of the Muslims dividing the Muslim's wealth and lands between them, the Muslims abandoning jihad, and concerning themselves only with the worldly matters. We have already mentioned this.

g. The increase of literacy.

h. The decrease of religious knowledge due to the disappearance of scholars.

i. The increase of musical instruments, and the Muslims making it lawful even though the Prophet has forbidden them.

j. The increase of sexual promiscuity, and new diseases that people had not herd of before spreading amongst them as a consequence of that. This is clear, with the arrival of AIDS, and other previously unheard of viruses.

k. Appearance of Dajjals (liars), each claiming to be a Messenger of Allah, while Muhammad is the last messenger. There are numerous examples of this, starting with Musailima, who arose in the time of the Prophet, just before his death, to more modern liars such as Elija Muhammad, founder of the Black American racist movement "The Nation of Islam", and India's pretender Gulam Ahmed of Qadian.

l. Nakedness of women while still being dressed and people copulating like donkeys in public. Obviously a direct reference to soft and hard-core pornography, which has become a dark stain on our society in recent times.

m. The drinking of wine becoming common, and the Muslims making it lawful by calling it another name.

n. Shouting in the mosques and lack of unity.

o. The worst and most ignorant will become leaders and they will be oppressors. Bill Clinton, saddam Hussain and majority of worlds Leaders are prime examples.

p. A man will obey his wife and disobey his mother, and treat his friends kindly and shun his father.

q. Men will wear silk and gold, and the making of it lawful by the Muslims even though the Prophet had forbidden it for the men of his 'Ummah (nation).

r. People will abandon the religion for a small worldly gain, and keeping to the religion will be like holding two hot coals


Muhammad (peace be upon him), rather there were many more such as the time when 10,000 of the troops of the pagan army of Quraish were advancing upon his city to utterly destroy him and his followers (in 'The Battle of the Trench' ) and he and about 3000 of his followers were preparing as best they could to stave off this attack by digging a trench. While prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was digging with them he made a number of prophesies including the Muslim's capture of Al-Yemen, Al-Sham (Jerusalem, Iraq, etc.), Morrocco, Persia, and the Eastern countries. All of this was said by him while many of the Muslims were expecting to be totally destroyed at any minute by the advancing army which vastly outnumbered them and was much better armed.

a white donkey made of iron whose span between its two ears is 40 cubits." This hadith refers to what the Dajjal will ride on. The Prophet (pbuh) is also reported to have said that the Dajjal will enter into every city. When asked what the Dajjal's speed will be like the Prophet (pbuh) is reported to have replied: "Like a wind that leaves a cloud in its trail." and so on. These are particularly related to the coming of the Dajjal. There is also, I have heard in a lecture by Hamza Yusuf, an ayat regarding Pollution as one of the signs of the end of time - i.e. a thick clear smoke that one can see in the sky; "Then watch thou for the Day that the sky will bring forth a kind of smoke Plainly visible

i just done a bit of search and i got this ALLAH knows best.
 
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I just cant belive how dumb these guys are, you live in Cali and your google search list reads, Isreali embassy, US military bases, how to make explosives from K-Mart and Jihad for beginers and think no one is going to notice?

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Agree, some people are special... If you get my drift xD
 
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I think Brother you should study the signs of the age of Imam Al Mahdi, Hazrat Isa (AS)'s return and killing of Dajjal... they have all come true ...

we are living in the age of Dajjal and this False Messiah of Jews is to arrive soon inshaAllah...

But, yes we don't know the exact time of their arrival... But most of Islamic Scholars says that it will happen in this Islamic Century i.e 1400-1500 A.H.

I think you should see the following lecture to get a comprehensive knowledge about them and to understand what is happening really in this world and how the Jews are preparing for the arrival of Dajjal...

Dajjal - The False Messiah Imran Hosein

If you have not studied the signs of the Arrival of the above three personalities then please do study it...

I have studied the signs in great details, dont get me wrong maybe i know more on the issue than you do, and i am not going to refute them because i do believe them.
To get the right idea, do not mix up the signs of qayyamah with the arrivals of Imam Mehndi and Dajjal or for that matter yajooj majooj.

I again say the time is not right, maybe in the times of our grand childeren, not now.
 
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I have studied the signs in great details, dont get me wrong maybe i know more on the issue than you do, and i am not going to refute them because i do believe them.
To get the right idea, do not mix up the signs of qayyamah with the arrivals of Imam Mehndi and Dajjal or for that matter yajooj majooj.

I again say the time is not right, maybe in the times of our grand childeren, not now.

Salams Jon.

How can you say time is not right? Do you get that from an indications in the Hadith? Or is it just a personal feeling?
 
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Still don't understand y pakistani citizens get involved in such cr@@p...they get involved more then citizens of other islamic countries....I personally think that pakistan is more tolerant than other islamic emirates but they still named more than others....its time for GOP to take a note of it

I haven't read the news piece, but the title tells m someone's trying to established Khilaafat.

Why is doing this in your views, which don't matter by the way nor do mine, a "cr@@p" idea?

I'm, as a Muslim, in intellectual agony until I live in a Khilaafah. And, as a person, I think Pakistan is a lost cause and needs to be disbanded. What would you say to that? Interestingly still, what do those who call themselves Pakistani, say to that?
 
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The Caliphate will be Established Insha Allah. . . . the Islamic Scholars have no doubts about it. We Muslims have no doubts about it..
Then why did the Muslim leaders of Turkey, with great public support, abolish the Caliphate in 1924?
 
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Then why did the Muslim leaders of Turkey, with great public support, abolish the Caliphate in 1924?

The muslims who abolished the Khilafat were nothing but Betrayers of Islam and were the people who believed in a pathetic thing introduced by West called Secularism....They were not representative of the Entire Muslim Ummah ...

Some of them wrongly went into this wrong path for which we ask for forgiveness from Almighty Allah...
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Moreover according to one Hadith of Holy Prophet (SA); he stated the Five Eras that we Muslims will see till the day of Judgement... they are:

1 The Era of Prophethood of Prophet (SA) --- This Era lasted for 23 years in which Holy Prophet (SA) spread Islam....

2 The Era of Khilafat on the way of Prophethood----- This was the Era of Hazrat Abu Bakr, Umar, Usman and Ali (May Allah be Pleased with all of them)....

3 Era of Long Kingdoms ---- this was the Era when we muslims were ruled by kingdoms that lasted for Centuries. It included Abbasids, Fatmids, Ottoman Empire, etc...

By the Destruction of Khilafat of Usmanis (Ottomans), the thid Era finished in 1924 AD

The Holy Prophet (SA) further stated that the Fourth era is the one in which Muslims will be ruled by Force and/or Cruelty by leaders.. Today we see this almost everywhere in the Muslim World....

But, The Fifth Era which he stated, and which is to come very soon, was that Khilafat will once again come for Muslims after the Fourth Era...... This Khilafat is one the way and InshaAllah will be a realty very soon... Only Allah knows the exact Time of it.. But according to the Hadith stated, it is the next to come InshaAllah..

So in answer to your question, i have stated the above hadith of Holy Prophet (SA) ... The Abolishing of the institution of Khilafat was only the indication to the Muslims that the third Era of Long Kingdoms for Muslims is over and in 1924 Muslims entered in the Fourth Era...... It didn't at all meant that Muslims don't want Khilafat......
 
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Salams Jon.

How can you say time is not right? Do you get that from an indications in the Hadith? Or is it just a personal feeling?

Brother we should not debate on when all this will happen... Because this Knowledge is with Allah Alone.....

All we know is that the Arrival of Imam al Mehdi, Hazrat Isa (AS) and Dajjal is very near because the signs of their arrival have occured already ... But we really don't know the exact year, month or date.. We can only give our estimates, which may be wrong...

So we should not debate on when they will come.. Rather than this we should write here, as well as on other places if possible, to create awareness among Muslims who are unaware about these facts and signs....
 
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The muslims who abolished the Khilafat were nothing but Betrayers of Islam...

The Holy Prophet (SA) further stated that the Fourth era is the one in which Muslims will be ruled by Force and/or Cruelty by leaders.. Today we see this almost everywhere in the Muslim World....
You don't think that the Turks of the early 1920s also thought that they were living in the Fourth Era?
 
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You don't think that the Turks of the early 1920s also thought that they were living in the Fourth Era?

They did not... Infact if you read Ottoman History you ll find that the Turks loved their Sultans more than their own lives!!!

Their problems were more of powers that the Sultans had in law and rules but they seldom applied them...

Some took the rules in a wrong direction... There is a rule in Islam that once a Caliph is elected/given pledge and another man comes to declare himself Caliph, then the second of them should be killed (because he harms the Unity of Muslims by his declaration... see the emphasis on Unity of Muslims in Islam... it is a matter of life and death)... Sultan Fatih used this rule to kill his own brother who was doing this to cause trouble amongst Muslims... but then the Turks at times did this in such a hurry and without investigating it properly that later they repented their actions...

Read the story of Suleman the Magnificent and his son who was wrongly accused of treason!!!!
 
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I am strongly anti Khilafat for the following reasons;

1.The ‘Tazkia Nafs” or cleanliness of the soul that happened to the people during the rime of our Holy Prophet (PBUH) was thru divine intervention and presence of a ‘Nabi’ in their midst. This is no longer the case.

2.The true Khilafat ended with the Rashideen. What we call Khilafat afterwards was actually a kingship or ‘Malukiet’. There was only one other Khalifa (Omer bin Abdul Aziz) after the Rashideen. All other
leaders were Maliks not Ameer ul Momineen. Remember Yazid was a Khailfa too! How can there be two Khalifaas at one time (Abbasids in Baghdad & Umayyad in Spain)? Pray tell me which was the true one?

3.There were also Fatimid Khilafaas as Khutba in Mecca was preached in their name for nearly two hundred years. Were Khalifaas in Baghdad usurpers during that time?

4.Turkish Khlifaas were at first Sultans and after they captured Hijaz they titled themselves Khalifa. How can Ummah follow a ruler no matter how immoral if all he has to do is to capture Hijaz by force and have Khutba declared in his name?

I ask all lovers of Khilafat to kindly research personal character of the Spanish, Abbasid, Fatimid and Ottoman Khalifaas before they try to force their view down our throat. If they think that they can get likes of Abu Bakr (RA), Omer (RA), Osman (RA) or Ali (RA) from the current crop of lying and cheating bigots, I will say that they are living in cuckoo land. Two of my heroes, Allama Iqbal as well as Quaid e Azam were also anti Khilafat IMO for the same reasons.

Yes Khilafat will eventually return with the Mehdi, but by then most us will be dead and thus would be of no benefit to us.
 
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