Updated Pilot SAFE : Mig 21 Crashed ! Pilot ejected to safety

[Donatello]

They had a live warhead on board? I mean, i wouldn't put anything on MIG21, let alone allow a pilot to fly.

 

[Etilla]

All your post are nonsense. F-7 are latter stages of China aviation technology aircraft. Quality is better and lifespan is much superior than Russian made old Bison. Nationalism can only bring you that far. Let me ask you one simple question, why PAF F-7 and PLAAF J-7 did not crashed as often as IAF Mig Bison?

IAF Mig 21 Bison made by HAL under license

If we imported Mig 21 Bison directly from Russia it would have had same crash rate of Mirage 2000 or Mig-29 ( The only IAF fighters not built by HAL )

 

[NKVD]

Mig 21 has a better radar than Tejas
Mig 21 has BVR R77 missiles. Tejas does not
Mig 21 has a cannon. Tejas does not
Mig 21 has much better combat radius than Tejas

Have you Seen the Points of the FOC

 

[Donatello]

Mig 21 has a better radar than Tejas
Mig 21 has BVR R77 missiles. Tejas does not
Mig 21 has a cannon. Tejas does not
Mig 21 has much better combat radius than Tejas

The radar and armament is fine on Tejas. How big of a radar do you really think MIG21 can afford with that tiny radome? It's days are over. No matter how good it performs, it is an old platform. No point in conducting sorties when you don't know if the plane will be able to execute it's mission and return safe or not........and by safety i don't mean enemy shooting it down, but rather it's own health. F-7PGs in Pakistan are also equipped with superior radars and weapons/ECM, but the word is, it is a platform from a by gone era.....and thus JF-17 or not, we need something better.

dude it's 4 decades old aircraft !

More like 5.

 

[OrionHunter]

dude it's 4 decades old aircraft !

The MiG-21 was introduced in 1959, so it's 56 years old. You can't keep flogging a dead horse. But in India it's called 'jugaad' where you keep patching the flying coffin with duct tape to keep it together. All thanks to our bureaucrats and politicians.

 

[Etilla]

Have you Seen the Points of the FOC

No increase in combat radius

Radar range is only EXPECTED to touch 80km

Current 45km radar range

Probably it will end up in the 60-65km range

Mig-21 KopyoM has 80km radar range

The radar and armament is fine on Tejas. How big of a radar do you really think MIG21 can afford with that tiny radome? It's days are over. No matter how good it performs, it is an old platform. No point in conducting sorties when you don't know if the plane will be able to execute it's mission and return safe or not........and by safety i don't mean enemy shooting it down, but rather it's own health. F-7PGs in Pakistan are also equipped with superior radars and weapons/ECM, but the word is, it is a platform from a by gone era.....and thus JF-17 or not, we need something better.


More like 5.

45km radar range on Tejas

Only single air-air armament is R73E with 20km range.

80km radar range on Mig-21

Various A2A armament such as R-60,73,27,77 and Magic 550.
Add to that the basic cannon

Mig 21 is as unsafe as Tejas because it was made by HAL. Tejas is a destined flying coffin as it will be manufactured by HAL

It may be fine in eyes of PAF considering Tejas is a sitting duck but for IAF it is a nightmare

 

[NKVD]

No increase in combat radius

combat radius of Ioc-2 is 400 Km-500Km,
LCA has Better Range

Radar range is only EXPECTED to touch 80km

Current 45km radar range

Because of the Lack Quartz Radome which is Will be Delivered(if you understand what Radome Is)
45Km range your quoting is against 2m2 target which will be increasd
Lca Uses EL/M-2032 radar used in LSP-3 has a detection and tracking range of up to 150 km in air-to-air mode, the air-to-ground mode generates high resolution radar imagery of locations at up to 150 km, and air-to-sea mode can detect and classify naval targets at ranges of up to 300 km

Mig-21 KopyoM has 80km radar range

Please Consult Senior Members in Forums

 

[xyxmt]

dude it's 4 decades old aircraft !

our 4 decade old "Chinese Junk" dont crash.
Dhruv crashes were pilot's error, but MIG 21 is not.

PAF academy is open for training, any takers

 

[Etilla]

combat radius of Ioc-2 is 400 Km-500Km,
LCA has Better Range

Because of the Lack Quartz Radome which is Will be Delivered(if you understand what Radome Is)
45Km range your quoting is against 2m2 target which will be increasd
Lca Uses EL/M-2032 radar used in LSP-3 has a detection and tracking range of up to 150 km in air-to-air mode, the air-to-ground mode generates high resolution radar imagery of locations at up to 150 km, and air-to-sea mode can detect and classify naval targets at ranges of up to 300 km

Please Consult Senior Members in Forums

Wrong on all counts

Tejas Mk1 has a combat radius of 300km

You can put a Tejas in a C-17 or IL-76 if you want 400-500km range

The 45km radar range is 5m2

IAF uses 3m2 so radar range is worse anyways

EL/M 2032 is on Jaguar and Sea Harrier

Tejas has an indigenous DRDO hybrid radar

our 4 decade old "Chinese Junk" dont crash.
Dhruv crashes were pilot's error, but MIG 21 is not

The Dhruv crashes were manufacturing defects

 

[Ind4Ever]

The MiG-21 was introduced in 1959, so it's 56 years old. You can't keep flogging a dead horse. But in India it's called 'jugaad' where you keep patching the flying coffin with duct tape to keep it together. All thanks to our bureaucrats and politicians.

hail our congress gandhis .... They are responsible for each and every life lost due to flying coffins. No vision for the nation . nut they just looted

our 4 decade old "Chinese Junk" dont crash.
Dhruv crashes were pilot's error, but MIG 21 is not.

PAF academy is open for training, any takers

They don't crash because u don't use them . It's a junk today. World has moved on to 4+ fighter . don't know why you are so short sighted

 

[NKVD]

Tejas has an indigenous DRDO hybrid radar

rejected for LCA Beacuse it don't have A2G capability

Tejas Mk1 has a combat radius of 300km

Either you have Outdated or False the Clean Combat radius of Lca is 300kM(with Intenal Fuel) And was for IOC-1

For IOC-2 which already Achieved

Director General Aeronautics and Chief Executive of CEMILAC Dr. K. Tamil Mani told The Hindu that Tejas was the best aircraft in the LCA category. Apart from being the lightest, with a gross weight of just about 9 tons, it was also the most cost effective as its price ranged from between Rs 170 and Rs 180 crore, which was almost a third of similar fourth generation aircraft.

He said the aircraft is capable of carrying nearly three tons of weapon systems, including laser guided and 500 kg bombs, has a top speed of 1,350 km per hour, capability of withstanding 7 G gravitational force and a 400-500 km radius of operation. However, before it is inducted, the Air Force wants the aircraft to improve its angle of attack from 24 degrees to 28 degrees, possess capability for refueling in air and to possess modern missile systems.

Tejas all set to get certification for IAF induction - The Hindu
..:: India Strategic ::. IAF: LCA Tejas Takes Off with IOC-II

Anything Alse

 

[Ind4Ever]

They had a live warhead on board? I mean, i wouldn't put anything on MIG21, let alone allow a pilot to fly.

Our MiGs are handled by experienced pilot . Not the rookies . Our pilots lost there life just to avoid civilian damage . Respect for all selfless Armed force men

our 4 decade old "Chinese Junk" dont crash.
Dhruv crashes were pilot's error, but MIG 21 is not.

PAF academy is open for training, any takers

So what about Jf17 crash ? Come on man let's not troll ourself.

 

[xyxmt]

They don't crash because u don't use them . It's a junk today. World has moved on to 4+ fighter . don't know why you are so short sighted

just to tease your pilots that age of a plane doesnt crash it but a pilot being an IAF crashes it, we have mirage III too very old plane.

 

[zeeshanvita]

PILOT SAFE .
Repeat Pilot Safe

Even if the pilot is safe another unfortunate thing can happen to a pilot is that, in most of the cases the pilot is unable to fly fighter again due to the ejection seat and physiological issues because of the crash.

 

[Etilla]

rejected for LCA Beacuse it don't have A2G capability

Either you have Outdated or False the Clean Combat radius of Lca is 300kM(with Intenal Fuel) And was for IOC-1

For IOC-2 which already Achieved

Director General Aeronautics and Chief Executive of CEMILAC Dr. K. Tamil Mani told The Hindu that Tejas was the best aircraft in the LCA category. Apart from being the lightest, with a gross weight of just about 9 tons, it was also the most cost effective as its price ranged from between Rs 170 and Rs 180 crore, which was almost a third of similar fourth generation aircraft.

He said the aircraft is capable of carrying nearly three tons of weapon systems, including laser guided and 500 kg bombs, has a top speed of 1,350 km per hour, capability of withstanding 7 G gravitational force and a 400-500 km radius of operation. However, before it is inducted, the Air Force wants the aircraft to improve its angle of attack from 24 degrees to 28 degrees, possess capability for refueling in air and to possess modern missile systems.

Tejas all set to get certification for IAF induction - The Hindu
..:: India Strategic ::. IAF: LCA Tejas Takes Off with IOC-II

Anything Alse

Combat radius = 300km

LCA


Radar range is 45km

Tejas Needs to Cross 6 Milestones in 15 Months -The New Indian Express