UPDATE: Syrian Surface-To-Air Missile Flew Way Off Course Triggering Alarms Before Exploding Over Israel

[Dariush the Great]

This forum is a subdivision of times of Israel. They are changing the headlines according to the Israeli agenda non stop.

Congratulations,

@waz @LeGenD what kind of half assed title is this? original title ''explosion reported in central israel'' is the most accurate one. Not this biased title.

 

[Muhammed45]

@waz @LeGenD what kind of half assed title is this? original title ''explosion reported in central israel'' is the most accurate one. Not this biased title.

Looks like @LeGenD is angry with Tishrin fking Israelis hence changing the title. I don't know what is wrong with this friend but he is hell bent on supporting Israel and USA.

The Syrian s200 was fired in response to Israeli aggression which took place after missile ATTACK Deep inside Israel.

This forum is losing its meaning tbh.

 

[LeGenD]

This forum is a subdivision of times of Israel. They are changing the headlines according to the Israeli agenda non stop.

Congratulations,

Baseless accusations.

Updates are coming from independent sources now.

Example in post # 232: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/upda...re-exploding-over-israel.708302/post-13080151

Thread title is amended accordingly.

More:

Syrian anti-aircraft missile lands near Israeli nuclear site

Israeli army hits Syrian missile batteries after the explosion in the vicinity of the Dimona nuclear site.

www.aljazeera.com

'Syrian missile' strikes near Israel's Dimona nuclear reactor

Air-raid sirens sounded in the southern district of Abu Qrenat, with local media reporting "loud explosions" that "shook the houses" after what Israeli army said was a Syrian missile that hit near top-secret nuclear facility.

www.trtworld.com

Looks like @LeGenD is angry with Tishrin fking Israelis hence changing the title. I don't know what is wrong with this friend but he is hell bent on supporting Israel and USA.

The Syrian s200 was fired in response to Israeli aggression which took place after missile ATTACK Deep inside Israel.

This forum is losing its meaning tbh.

Baseless accusations again.

Your version of events are not independently verified to my knowledge. You could tag me and mention your sources instead of accusing me of supporting Israel and USA in this matter. This is not the way to address Moderators and their decisions.

I am apolitical about this matter; FACTS and VERIFIABILITY are important considerations in my view.

I honestly cannot ensure 100% satisfaction of every member here because different countries are on collision course with each other and there is too much difference of opinion to process for my tastes. Do not accuse me of picking sides in your squabbles without careful look at my contributions. I will not tolerate this BS anymore.

@waz @LeGenD what kind of half assed title is this? original title ''explosion reported in central israel'' is the most accurate one. Not this biased title.

See above.

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[dbc]

And Israel has always been someone else's bitch. You were our little bitches several times, now you are US bitches. You are always someone's bitch and have to wag your tail for them to stay alive. But somehow you always get raped and annihilated at the end. lol Wait for a one or two decade before you guys again provide fat for some of the world's best soap material. It's just a circle that repeats itself but it's always the same for jeews. lol


You know what's truly hilarious? A US marine crying like a little girl an hour after getting captured:

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first this person wasn't a marine, they were a collection of petty officers and enlisted men mostly cooks , mechanics and welders that somehow drifted into Iranian water.

second, marines, seals, spetsnaz, SAS and other special operators do cry like 'little girls' often and sometimes loudly.

My father's colleague in Tehran was a former Iranian soldier and a recipient of an Iranian medal of valour awarded for killing Iraqi soldiers in the Iraq - Iran war. He bawled like a 'lil girl' when he narrated his harrowing war stories to me and my father. Real men get emotional, real men do cry. I don't feel any shame in seeing images of emotional American servicemen or women. So nice try...

 

[Dariush the Great]

Baseless accusations.

Updates are coming from independent sources now.

Example in post # 232: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/upda...re-exploding-over-israel.708302/post-13080151

Thread title is amended accordingly.

More:

Syrian anti-aircraft missile lands near Israeli nuclear site

Israeli army hits Syrian missile batteries after the explosion in the vicinity of the Dimona nuclear site.

www.aljazeera.com

'Syrian missile' strikes near Israel's Dimona nuclear reactor

Air-raid sirens sounded in the southern district of Abu Qrenat, with local media reporting "loud explosions" that "shook the houses" after what Israeli army said was a Syrian missile that hit near top-secret nuclear facility.

www.trtworld.com

See above.

Any further overreactions will be sorted out.

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This thread is but a reminder of how propaganda is conducted through "tweets."

It is important to consider updates from well-informed sources in relation to any development.

To be honest it is a unnecessary long title desperately looking for a explanation for the recent incident. ''Explosion reported'' in Israel is more fitting. Very childish though.

 

[Arian]

first this person wasn't a marine, they were a collection of petty officers and enlisted men mostly cooks , mechanics and welders that somehow drifted into Iranian water.

second, marines, seals, spetsnaz, SAS and other special operators do cry like 'little girls' often and sometimes loudly.

My father's colleague in Tehran was a former Iranian soldier and a recipient of an Iranian medal of valour awarded for killing Iraqi soldiers in the Iraq - Iran war. He bawled like a 'lil girl' when he narrated his harrowing war stories to me and my father. Real men get emotional, real men do cry. I don't feel any shame in seeing images of emotional American servicemen or women. So nice try...

Cooks, mechanics and welders? LMAO Now this is hilarious. Maybe they were tourists dressed up as US soldiers? Go on, tell us that they were tourists who had bought their clothes from a shop and were just curious about Iran.

If your soldiers are so soft that they cry after getting captured, when they were held in a large room together and were fed properly and respectfully, then who knows how many of these little girls will run and desert when they are in a real war?

Yeah. Is that an episode in the series of things that never happened? And all my life I thought Americans supported Iraq! I didn't know that Americans loved us so much that they traveled tens of thousands of miles to Iran to fight for us in the war.

 

[mohsen]

lol, independent sources!!!
A picture of S-200 can belong to anytime in the past, some people prefer to use their eyes rather than their brain!


Ammonia Leak Reported at Coca-Cola Plant in Haifa, Israel - Sputnik International

Ammonia is widely used as a refrigerant gas, and in the fertilizer industry. It is both explosive and highly toxic. High concentrations of ammonia in air can cause blindness, lung damage or even death.

 

[dbc]

Cooks, mechanics and welders? LMAO Now this is hilarious. Maybe they were tourists dressed up as US soldiers? Go on, tell us that they were tourists who had bought their clothes from a shop and were just curious about Iran.

If your soldiers are so soft that they cry after getting captured, when they were held in a large room together and were fed properly and respectfully, then who knows how many of these little girls will run and desert when they are in a real war?

Yeah. Is that an episode in the series of things that never happened? And all my life I thought Americans supported Iraq! I didn't know that Americans loved us so much that they traveled tens of thousands of miles to Iran to fight for us in the war.

Here is 80 plus page investigation report on the incident.

U.S. Navy Investigation into Farsi Island Incident

The following is a summary of the U.S. Navy's investigation into the Jan. 12, 2016 seizure of 10 U.S. sailors by Iranian forces near Farsi Island.

news.usni.org

My father's colleague was Iranian, my father is a geologist he worked in Iran in the early 2000's.

 

[Beast]

Chinese gas station comment was funny...yours ...meh! you can do better..

That means US is worst than gas station. Land of impotent?

 

[Arian]

Here is 80 plus page investigation report on the incident.

U.S. Navy Investigation into Farsi Island Incident

The following is a summary of the U.S. Navy's investigation into the Jan. 12, 2016 seizure of 10 U.S. sailors by Iranian forces near Farsi Island.

news.usni.org

My father's colleague was Iranian, my father is a geologist he worked in Iran in the early 2000's.

And what does make you think that I will believe what American sources say? Don't you think that naturally American sources can be biased about this incident? Particularly because a lot of people in the US blamed the Democrats for the incident and it soon became a political thing?

Oh, I see. So, you're saying that we should be thankful to Americans that an Iranian-American, who probably had traveled to the US only recently after the 1979 revolution, decided to fight for the country where he was born. Right? And your father is an academic. How is that related to the US Army? Unless your father was spying on us, I can't see why an academic that has come to our country for scientific studies or teaching should be related to the US Armed Forces. Care to elaborate?

 

[LeGenD]

To be honest it is a unnecessary long title desperately looking for a explanation for the recent incident. ''Explosion reported'' in Israel is more fitting. Very childish though.

The title of a thread should be SAME that is in the source of information. PDF encourage this practice to ensure consistency in information-sharing and to minimize personal spins to any development. There would be confusion, Flame-wars, and spikes in reports otherwise. Go through this thread and you will see my point.

The original thread title was your personal take in accordance with the tweets you posted. This was a DEVELOPING STORY when you opened this thread and your decision was respected.

Tweets are secondary sources to highlight any EVENT and convey relevant information in the form of tidbits which may or may not be reliable/verifiable/consistent.

Relevant UPDATES from well-informed sources are pouring in NOW and I have highlighted all of them in this thread in good faith.

I have amended the title of this thread in accordance with a comprehensive UPDATE (article) from a well-informed source about the explosion near Dimona (Israel), and I have also preserved the original title of this thread in the FIRST post of this thread (historical relevance). I have clearly mentioned the source of the title and it is INDEPENDENT reporting of the incident (neither Israeli and nor Iranian).

I have not amended the title of this thread in accordance with article(s) of Times of Israel which are also posted in this thread.

But look at the accusations of this member @Muhammed45 - absolutely baseless and unacceptable. He have misbehaved with me in another thread as well.

All should understand that I am not interested in picking sides in these squabbles; I am simply doing my job. But misbehavior will not be tolerated. If you find decision of a Moderator questionable then convey your perspective in respectable manner. Your perspective will be FAIRLY considered but final decision rests with PDF Management.

If you have another title in mind then you may suggest it to me but it shall be on the basis of a well-informed source.

Let me tag management for you.

@waz
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@The Eagle

 

[Arian]

The title of a thread should be SAME that is in the source of information. PDF encourage this practice to ensure consistency in information-sharing and to minimize personal spins to any development. There would be confusion, Flame-wars, and spikes in reports otherwise. Go through this thread and you will see my point.

The original thread title was your personal take in accordance with the tweets you posted. This was a DEVELOPING STORY when you opened this thread and your decision was respected.

Tweets are secondary sources to highlight any EVENT and convey relevant information in the from of tidbits which may or may not be reliable/verifiable/consistent.

Relevant UPDATES from well-informed sources are pouring in NOW and I have highlighted all of them in this thread in good faith.

I have amended the title of this thread in accordance with a comprehensive UPDATE (article) from a well-informed source about the explosion near Dimona (Israel), and I have also preserved the original title of this thread in the FIRST post of this thread (historical relevance). I have clearly mentioned the source of the title and it is INDEPENDENT reporting of the incident (neither Israeli and nor Iranian).

I have not amended the title of this thread in accordance with article(s) of Times of Israel which are also posted in this thread.

But look at the accusations of this member @Muhammad45 - absolutely baseless and unacceptable. He have misbehaved with me in another thread as well.

All should understand that I am not interested in picking sides in these squabbles. I am simply doing my job.

If you have another title in mind then you may suggest it to me but it shall be on the basis of a well-informed source.

I do think your decision was slightly biased though. There's a video that clearly shows a huge explosion on the ground from multiple angles, which seems very different from an explosion caused by a SA-5 debris. And there are multiple Iranian and Syrian sources that claim it was a surface-to-surface missile, but for some reason, you decided that the Israeli narrative was correct (which makes very little sense anyway). I respectfully disagree that it's the job of a moderator to choose which narrative is correct and then pick a title based on one particular narrative out of many. Also, the first post created by the OP was about people posting on Twitter about an explosion in central Israel, which was very accurately describing the subject of the tweets in my opinion.

 

[LeGenD]

I do think your decision was slightly biased though. There's a video that clearly shows a huge explosion on the ground from multiple angles, which seems very different from an explosion caused by a SA-5 debris. And there are multiple Iranian and Syrian sources that claim it was a surface-to-surface missile, but for some reason, you decided that the Israeli narrative was correct (which makes very little sense anyway). I respectfully disagree that it's the job of a moderator to choose which narrative is correct and then pick a title based on one particular narrative out of many. Also, the first post created by the OP was about people posting on Twitter about an explosion in central Israel, which was very accurately describing the subject of the tweets in my opinion.

This:

Syrian Surface-To-Air Missile Flew Way Off Course Triggering Alarms Before Exploding Over Israel

Yet another Soviet-era Syrian SAM made the long journey to nowhere.

www.thedrive.com

- is not Israeli source but independent reporting of events from well-informed authors. This source is cited all over the world due to its high-quality contributions. The article clearly explains what happened in Israel, Syria and Iran recently.

Did you bother to give it a read? You should.

Additional well-informed sources have also provided similar updates which I have posted above (see post # 243).

Any member of PDF management can intervene in a discussion and set things straight in it. Management exists for a reason. If members are left to their own devices in discussions then there will be only CHAOS and FLAMEWARS here. You don't get this because you are not part of the management and you do not have to deal with problems of members on a regular basis here. Members love to REPORT each other for their squabbles but now have problems with interventions of Moderators in ongoing discussions? Do not report and WE won't bother.

Feel free to share your sources with me and I will give them a fair look.

 

[Arian]

This:

Syrian Surface-To-Air Missile Flew Way Off Course Triggering Alarms Before Exploding Over Israel

Yet another Soviet-era Syrian SAM made the long journey to nowhere.

www.thedrive.com

- is not Israeli source but independent reporting of events from well-informed authors. This source is cited all over the world due to its high-quality contributions. The article clearly explains what happened in Israel, Syria and Iran recently.

Did you bother to give it a read? You should.

Additional well-informed sources have also provided similar updates which I have posted above (see post # 243).

Any member of PDF management can intervene in a discussion and set things straight in it. Management exists for a reason. If members are left to their own devices in discussions then there will be only CHAOS and FLAMEWARS here. You don't get this because you are not part of the management and you do not have to deal with problems of members on a regular basis here. Members love to REPORT each other for their squabbles but now have problems with interventions of Moderators in ongoing discussions? Do not report and WE won't bother.

Feel free to share your sources with me and I will give them a fair look.

Excuse me, but I don't remember I said that you used Israeli sources? I said you accepted the Israeli narrative without proof. And who determines the credibility of a source? When you talk about credibility, it means that whatever source I give you, you can just call it not credible enough.

All Western sources are going to stick with the Israeli version of the story. I am sure you are mature enough to know this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1385013780451627019

Does that look like an explosion caused by SA-5 debris?

As a matter of fact, I do know what kind of problems the management has to deal with because Mosa and I were the first International Moderators of the forum when PDF was still in its first years. And still, I respectfully disagree about that with you. Let's agree to disagree then.

 

[Ceylal]

Khamenaistic Iran is a Chinese gas station which thinks it is a great empire.

Well, a Couple days ago, they showed the entire world that Israel is just a puffed up tiger that the most west made you to be...All you multi stage air defenses failed to intercept their ballistic missiles and more importantly to detect it, until it exploded . Israel is nothing without the West ambrella , since its creation. The sad thing, is the awakening of those miserable Arab state that embraced the sionist state...They woke up with their bare *** wondering what next since their servitude didn’t bring them much.