UNSC permanent membership should be disbanded

[HalfMoon]

Why don't you just say all nuclear countries should give up their nuclear arms?
If you don't like a system, other than change from within, all you can do is then get out, you don't get to call this, it's a pipe dream.

You don't need nukes to project power.

Turkey and Iran project power without any nukes.

 

[Crusher]

Typical dreams of fools living in their own virtual imaginary ideal world which exists no where in reality. It is like me saying that why don't all the countries in the world are governed by just one global government which would be the most ideal case.

 

[Prince Kassad]

Typical dreams of fools living in their own virtual imaginary ideal world which exists no where in reality. It is like me saying that why don't all the countries in the world are governed by just one global government which would be the most ideal case.

Let the comedy go on.

 

[GeraltofRivia]

The admission criteria for UNSC P5 is simple- defeating any existing members in an all out war. A country will receive “invitation” once this feat is accomplished.

 

[RedHulk]

The admission criteria for UNSC P5 is simple- defeating any existing members in an all out war. A country will receive “invitation” once this feat is accomplished.

that is simple but it should be one on one. I think Turkey can easiy take on France.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

that is simple but it should be one on one. I think Turkey can easiy take on France.

Are you serious? Distance between Paris and Saint-Denis is more than 9000 km. That's more than the distance between Boston and Honolulu. France is no slouch.

You don't need nukes to project power.

Turkey and Iran project power without any nukes.

Very very limited power projection.

 

[nature is]

The UN was formed by the 5 victorious nations after WW2.
Others joined the UN on their own voilition, not forced.

Any nation not satisfied with the UN structure can withdraw from the UN and form their own.
Lets take Boxing for example.
First there was WBA, World Boxing Association.
Subsequently WBC, World Boxing Council was formed, followed by IBF and WBO.

You can try to form the "New United Nations" and make yourself the permanent member or according to what you propose.
The rest of the nations will flock over to this new organization making it a success.
Or wait for WW3 and the new victorious nations will form a new "United Nations" among the nuclear waste.
.

You couldn't have put it more aptly. Allow to me add one point, the "Big Four" that formed UNSC were independent sovereign state (France was added later). There were others who fought under victorious Allies, but they weren't independent. E.g. South Africa, India.

 

[manga]

My list for the permanent UNSC members would be

1) China
2) USA
3) Russia
4) Turkey
5) Pakistan
6) Iran
7) EU
8) Israel

Only these powers have the demonstrated capability to project power.

That is why you are Mr.Nobody.

 

[HalfMoon]

Very very limited power projection.

Turkey projects power all over middle east, Eastern Europe and north Africa with zero nukes.

Iran projects power in Persian Gulf, East Africa, Central & South Asia with zero nukes.

 

[313ghazi]

UNSC permanent membership should be disbanded as it only protect the interest of certain countries and it violates the norm of democracy as only few countries get to decide the future for rest of the world. For each security issue there should be direct voting from all countries to decide the course of action. UNSC nonpermanent membership should also be changed, right now its according to voting election. It should be on rotation basis for all the countries.
If above all cant be done then UNSC permanent membership should have representation from certain groups or parts of the world for example OIC don't have any representation there. So to protect the interest of 2 billion people it must have a neutral member country on UNSC permanent membership. Same is the case for Africa as it has been plundered by some countries for their resources and nothing has been done to save their interest as it suits the permanent members.
A permanent member for UNSC should be elected by the countries only from that region or group as overall voting undermine the rights of that region or group. Its just a random thought to put the world on right path.

Why look to the UN anyway? The UN is the forum the white man uses to exert it's influence over the rest of us. It protects the interests of the Western powers, China was only included because Soviet Russia wanted a partner it could trust. It's a playground for old and new empires.

Your national interests will only be protected through economic and military strength. Brute force is the language everyone understands and money is the God they all worship.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

I have no idea why France is in the P5. If the permanent member status is based on winning WW2 then France who surrendered in 6 weeks should be kicked out.

A new P5 that is better suited kfirbthe current world is

China
India
USA
EU
Russia

 

[HalfMoon]

I have no idea why France is in the P5. If the permanent member status is based on winning WW2 then France who surrendered in 6 weeks should be kicked out.

A new P5 that is better suited kfirbthe current world is

China
India
USA
EU
Russia

No. Not India brother. Indians are pathetic.

Replace India with Pakistan and Turkey.

China should kick them out of SCO, BRICS & AIIB too.

 

[RedHulk]

To be frank 1 member need to be removed that is France. 3 need to be added to keep world balance . 1 Brazil, 2 India 3 a strong Muslim country. 4th could be a country from Africa

 

[HalfMoon]

To be frank 1 member need to be removed that is France. 3 need to be added to keep world balance . 1 Brazil, 2 India 3 a strong Muslim country. 4th could be a country from Africa

I strongly disagree. Filthy pathetic Indians don't deserve to be on UNSC.

 

[RedHulk]

I strongly disagree. Filthy pathetic Indians don't deserve to be on UNSC.

But they are 1.4 billion people. You like it or not but world balance depends on certain things.