Unity.

[SarthakGanguly]

Culture evolves man.

Ziafy it man.
The greater the similarities with India, the more difficult will it be to leave this baggage of the past. Leave all this, join the ME mainstream.
Begin with your own household. So many countries - From Egypt to Morocco, from Lebanon to Jordan have surrendered (partly forced) their previous pre Islamic identities totally. Emulate them, if you need to. That is what can give an Islamic nation its strength.
One culture.
One religion.
One leader?

 

[1st Brahmans]

Honestly I am not. I call a spade a spade. I don't care about religion. I am cool with Sikhs in Punjab. I cool with many groups in India. Indeed I quite like them. However the problem with India is the filth that the 'good' floats in. If it was only what I call 'good' I would have said openly I regret 1947. So no I am not jealous. I can only thank Jinnah for 1947 because that gave excuse for the Radcliffe Line and the fence we have there now.

I feel quite bad about losing our Sikhs, Hindus from Pakistan. Some still live there I am cool with them. My issue is not some Hindkoh speaking Hindu or Sikh from Khyber Pakhtunwa or some Punjabi Sikh from Lahore. It is the mass you have east of Delhi and south of Delhi. It's simple as that and I know some Indians feel lie that as well, including Sikhs once you get to know them. A sikh was telling me last week how his hometwon of Ludhiana has neen swamped with Bihari, Odishans and millions of other untouchables. I thank Jinnah for saving us from this - darn care about what excuse he used. End do justify the means. And 'end' was we got a nice fence on our east.

So jealous - Nahhhhh hope in hell.

>I am cool with Sikhs in Punjab. I cool with many groups in India. Indeed I quite like them.

This is the first time you confessed to us that you like some other Indian groups as well beside sikhs, care to name those groups ?

True.

I blame our peaceful and moralist nature for that.

 

[El Sidd]

Ziafy it man.
The greater the similarities with India, the more difficult will it be to leave this baggage of the past. Leave all this, join the ME mainstream.
Begin with your own household. So many countries - From Egypt to Morocco, from Lebanon to Jordan have surrendered (partly forced) their previous pre Islamic identities totally. Emulate them, if you need to. That is what can give an Islamic nation its strength.
One culture.
One religion.
One leader?

Don't bring Zia into it buddy.

1965 we had a commander who for a while wished for and worked for mutual defence agreement with India in 1959 1960.

Times changed. Those who didn't evolve are bound to be left behind.

Lol dude.

The world is pretty much now at the gates of one world government. And you are selling me saaris for a wedding with a dowry of Maruti.

From Aryan invasion theory to the Mongols to the partition. Indus valley is known to be a melting pot of culture.

With Indian influence blocked from the east. Afghan culture blocked from the west. There is a new culture evolving.

What's with the negative minded approach?
Dharma Dharma ohh Karma?

 

[Sky lord]

Its been just 70 years.

But it's been one more day than India had. India got independence one day later than Pakistan.

Yet today your artists - what's left of them - need to come to India to perform - because theres is nothing in Pak for them.

Your sick people need to come to India to for healing because you don't have modern medicine.


Here is the pictorial difference taken by NASA between the indus and the Ganges in 2016 as seen from space. We can see who has the light of civilization today.

 

[1st Brahmans]

Ziafy it man.
The greater the similarities with India, the more difficult will it be to leave this baggage of the past. Leave all this, join the ME mainstream.
Begin with your own household. So many countries - From Egypt to Morocco, from Lebanon to Jordan have surrendered (partly forced) their previous pre Islamic identities totally. Emulate them, if you need to. That is what can give an Islamic nation its strength.
One culture.
One religion.
One leader?

Bro, pakistan is already part of middle east now.

Jinnah was right, other are dofferent people amd civilization we are changing our paths. India is going full on hindutwa mode and pakistan on Ismaic path. @Zibago these are the last few years of our brotherhood

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Don't bring Zia into it buddy.

1965 we had a commander who for a while wished for and worked for mutual defence agreement with India in 1959 1960.

Times changed. Those who didn't evolve are bound to be left behind.

Lol dude.

The world is pretty much now at the gates of one world government. And you are selling me saaris for a wedding with a dowry of Maruti.

From Aryan invasion theory to the Mongols to the partition. Indus valley is known to be a melting pot of culture.

With Indian influence blocked from the east. Afghan culture blocked from the west. There is a new culture evolving.

What's with the negative minded approach?
Dharma Dharma ohh Karma?

Then just watch how we and the Chinese slowly gobble you.
Nothing physical. Soft power, market and culture.

Bro, pakistan is already part of middle east now.

Jinnah was right, other are dofferent people amd civilization we are changing our paths. India is going full on hindutwa mode and pakistan on Ismaic path. @Zibago these are the last few years of our brotherhood

We should respect that path IR Pakistan chooses. It is their right.

 

[1st Brahmans]

Then just watch how we and the Chinese slowly gobble you.
Nothing physical. Soft power, market and culture.


We should respect that path IR Pakistan chooses. It is their right.

Agreed, but do you think we can get a united India back with decentralization, secular and greater autonomy to states for sake of our children ? A greater decentralized secular indian federation/union of state will quickly become a economic,cultural and martial power.

@Kaptaan what are your views on Secular, decentralized union of South Asia ?

 

[Sky lord]

join the ME

Well, the ME doesn't want them, which is a point of great psychological sadness for Pakistanis in general.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Well, the ME doesn't want them, which is a point of great psychological sadness for Pakistanis in general.

Should NOT BE OUR CONCERN.

Their headache.

 

[El Sidd]

But it's been one more day than India had. India got independence one day later than Pakistan.

Yet today your artists - what's left of them - need to come to India to perform - because theres is nothing in Pak for them.

Your sick people need to come to India to for healing because you don't have modern medicine.


Here is the pictorial difference taken by NASA between the indus and the Ganges in 2016 as seen from space. We can see who has the light of civilization today.

View attachment 410578

Lol.
Yes just like Freud said. Measure the depth of civilization with NASA's photography.

Well India is a bigger country with better resources. So if you are even twice as good as us that just means you are failing miserably.

Art travels so we don't stop that either. If someone wants to have Chittiya Kallaiyan which is a racist song and explains a lot of your troubles. Most welcome to go and come back again

Its an enigma how deeply you care for Pakistan while being oppressed in India constitutionally.

I feel for you man. Must be rough.

Say...... You are in a thread aptly named Unity.

Lets have it then.

Give us a definition of what is an India? And what unites India?

Lets hear it. Been waiting for quite sometime that someone finally does explain that.

Then just watch how we and the Chinese slowly gobble you.
Nothing physical. Soft power, market and culture.


We should respect that path IR Pakistan chooses. It is their right.

Lol Chinese
No comments buddy
Even shariah is silent on Chinese
Scary isn't it? Hahaha

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Agreed, but do you think we can get a united India back with decentralization, secular and greater autonomy to states for sake of our children ? A greater decentralized secular indian federation/union of state will quickly become a economic,cultural and martial power.

@Kaptaan what are your views on Secular, decentralized union of South Asia ?

No.

Our differences are based on religion.

A decentralized union will not work. Incessant riots followed by the eradication of the coward(us) population.

Even shariah is silent on Chinese

But the Chinese are not silent on Sharia

 

[El Sidd]

No.

Our differences are based on religion.

A decentralized union will not work. Incessant riots followed by the eradication of the coward(us) population.


But the Chinese are not silent on Sharia

We have a working relation with Chinese on this.
The grandeur of it cannot be easily explained.

But yes. Theoretically we are silent on China and neither got a problem with that.

Chinese can ban shariah. Their law their people their land.

Sadly for you. Your land. Your people. Impractical laws of oppression. Enjoying secularism much?

 

[Zibago]

Jinnah was right, other are dofferent people amd civilization we are changing our paths. India is going full on hindutwa mode and pakistan on Ismaic path. @Zibago these are the last few years of our brotherhood

Inshallah

 

[SarthakGanguly]

We have a working relation with Chinese on this.
The grandeur of it cannot be easily explained.

But yes. Theoretically we are silent on China and neither got a problem with that.

Chinese can ban shariah. Their law their people their land.

Sadly for you. Your land. Your people. Impractical laws of oppression. Enjoying secularism much?

No offense, but are you mentally disturbed?

 

[El Sidd]

No offense, but are you mentally disturbed?

Aren't we all?
No offense taken man. Its a genuine question.