Ultra Far Right Nationalism on the rise in Europe and Russia

[Hyperion]

Mate, they are all fire-crackers.... only countries with nuclear umbrella will be safe. Which means.....

1. US
2. Russia
3. China
4. France
5. UK >>>>>> No because all launch systems are leased from the Yanks.
6. Israel
7. India
8. Pakistan

Rest of the world? Fair game....

You seem to be nice guy, you are most welcome in Pakistan...

Can't speak for others,but romanians have some old MIG 21'S,we just bought some 12 old F16's,i don't imagine us gunning other countries very soon.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Blaming someone for taking your job is one thing. But them we must look at the other side (the immigrants) who give others reasons to hate them.

Example: selling drugs, pimping White girls, raping and molesting White girls, forming gangs and jumping Whites, establishing no-go-zones, enforcing Shariah within a state, cordoning off neighborhood to certain people based on their religious faith, rioting and burning stores, cars, etc, and finally demanding that Europe be turned into a "Islamic" state similar to what the Middle East is.

Granted.
But, you're missing I'm trying to make. Economic misery always, always correlates with nationalism and civil unrest.
Now take the Poles, these guys here are blamed for none of the above, rather blamed for 'taking all our jobs' and part of the reason why here in the UK parties like Farage's UKIP have grown popular, blame sells.

Besides, where were these nationalistic feelings before the credit crunch. 7/7 bombings were a massive cue to far right groups, and it did aid them. Another jump came about after the economic misery and migration from Eastern Europe.

Some of them really don't help their cause either with the rioting,demands for cultural changes.Granted,they are not the majority but they'll always be in the spotlight.

True. Multiculturalism in many areas has failed and especially among some immigrant communities rather than others.
But, economic misery, paranoia from the war on terror and immigrants behaving badly are all part of the perfect storm.

 

[AUz]

Well, this time I don't have any concerns.........we in the "rest" of the world are armed "to-the-teeth".... at-least you ain't gonna come our way...

Physical Colonialism is less brutal to a people than neo-colonialism.

Rich nations still loot poor nations, exploit them, control them, manipulate them, and harm them to the core....and most dangerous part is...majority of people residing in these lands don't even know that a neo-colonial order has been imposed over them!

In the time of physical colonialism, masses atleast knew that they were under others' rule...

 

[Desert Fox]

Granted.
But, you're missing I'm trying to make. Economic misery always, always correlates with nationalism and civil unrest.
Now take the Poles, these guys here are blamed for none of the above, rather blamed for 'taking all our jobs' and part of the reason why here in the UK parties like Farage's UKIP have grown popular, blame sells.

Besides, where were these nationalistic feelings before the credit crunch. 7/7 bombings were a massive cue to far right groups, and it did aid them. Another jump came about after the economic misery and migration from Eastern Europe.

Of course, i don't disagree with you here. Xenophobia might play a big part in the blame game. But if the Muslims and other immigrants didn't give further fuel for the fire, i'm sure these voices who blame won't have such a massive following.

After the beheading of the soldier, the anti-immigration sentiments have drastically increased.

The problem lies in the fact that with so many people of different views, beliefs, colors, and nationalities living in the same place, there are bound to be clashes, unless one side makes compromises, which never happens. Its inevitable.

 

[flamer84]

Granted.
But, you're missing I'm trying to make. Economic misery always, always correlates with nationalism and civil unrest.
Now take the Poles, these guys here are blamed for none of the above, rather blamed for 'taking all our jobs' and part of the reason why here in the UK parties like Farage's UKIP have grown popular, blame sells.

Besides, where were these nationalistic feelings before the credit crunch. 7/7 bombings were a massive cue to far right groups, and it did aid them. Another jump came about after the economic misery and migration from Eastern Europe.



True. Multiculturalism in many areas has failed and especially among some immigrant communities rather than others.
But, economic misery, paranoia from the war on terror and immigrants behaving badly are all part of the perfect storm.

Exactly what I believe ,it's all beeing build up for the night in shiny armour to swoop in and save us from radicals ,rioters and chaos.Ofcourse,there will be a small price to pay:individual freedoms....Germany 1933 2.0

 

[flamer84]

...double post

 

[-SINAN-]

@WhiteMansBurden

My final thoughts are;

I think you are racist and I don't like racism at all. But also you seem that you just want to live with your folks and how can relate with you ? I mean, i live in Ankara/Turkey, there are only Turks here, i don't see non-Turks. But you are even working with the people who don't belong to your race. So before experiencing the same thing, i shouldn't judge you.

Another issue you don't want anyone than white people. I think, i may get you a little bit. While establishing Turkey we kicked out Greeks and Armenians, they are making so much fuss today, i can't imagine what would they do today if they were still living in Turkey. Secondly we didn't kicked Kurds out and we are still dealing with Ethnic Terrorism for 30 years. I'm wondering what if we kicked out all the Kurds back than. Turkey would be surely a much more prosperous place.

 

[AUz]

Perhaps this is your view. Not everyone will necessarily agree with this.

In your case, on paper, one might not see the distinction of civilizations. However, from my personal experience, there is a big difference, or shall is say there are big differences by way of prevalent thoughts, or mentalities to be exact.

Explain.

This is not my view but the view of every sophisticated student of history.

The very happy, cute, romantic 'Western civilization' that you see today is not even hundred years old. Before that, so called people of "western civilization" were butchering, killing, looting, competing, murdering, harming, invading each other for CENTURIES!

French aligned themselves with Ottomans against Spanish Empire..and so on.

Its kinda like saying "Persia and Saudi Arabia are both part of one civilization (Islamic Civilization)" ...It might sound all good and dandy, but it is just not correct.

Also, terms like "culture" and "civilization" has no value or meaning to it. People always want to align themselves to something bigger than them, and hence masses like the terms like "culture", "civilization" , "Ummah" etc...

Just like in case of 'Islamic Civilization', there exists huge differences among nations/peoples of so-called "Western Civilization" ...

The reason you don't see chaos in so-called 'Western Civilization' is due to the presence of one, central force (United States). In the absence of one, most powerful central force, Europeans would've been competing with each other for resources, influence, and domination (kinda like how "Muslims" are doing for past century or so, after the central force of 'Islamic Civilization' (The Ottomans) fell.. )

 

[Jungibaaz]

Of course, i don't disagree with you here. Xenophobia might play a big part in the blame game. But if the Muslims and other immigrants didn't give further fuel for the fire, i'm sure these voices who blame won't have such a massive following.

After the beheading of the soldier, the anti-immigration sentiments have drastically increased.

The problem lies in the fact that with so many people of different views, beliefs, colors, and nationalities living in the same place, there are bound to be clashes, unless one side makes compromises, which never happens. Its inevitable.

It is inevitable. But as a community, Muslims, especially Pakistanis stick out like sore thumbs.
No disrespect to some expats I know. But I've come across some very ill-mannered conservatives.
They hate living here, but they enjoy the benefits they receive, they refuse to work and demand state funded privileges as if it were their God given right. I've come across Pakistanis who don't even bother learning the slightest bit of English, I mean, these guys can barely spell common nouns in English, their communication skills limited to minor conversational phrases. And then comes the inwards behavior of our communities. Then there's cultural barriers, clear lines for voluntary segregation. Then things like terrorism, Shariah zones, radical clerics, grooming cases and also Burqa (which I may add is the definition of what is considered alien in the West).

We are an inviting target and we bought a lot of it on ourselves.

 

[Desert Fox]

I don't believe in a final solution, nor am I a neo-NAZI. I guess those two things we can agree on. Hitler pretty much thought of Slavs as a different species, something which has been shown to be clearly false by modern genetic sequencing techniques.

There was no final solution. The one that was contemplated was the Madagascar Plan, which was dropped after America got involved.

Regarding Hitler's views on the Slavs as being sub-humans; i'm not sure why he would praise the Ukrainian volunteers of the SS.

But realistically speaking, and this is a historically recorded fact; the Soviet Red Army and the NKVD were butchering, plundering, looting, raping, and slaughtering on their way to Berlin.

Also, when the Germans invaded the Soviet Union in June 1941, they saw first hand the barbarity and savagery of the Red Army, NKVD, the Partisans, and the Soviet Stalinist Regime which had imposed tyranny on its own population.

Before June 22nd, 1941 (the date of the German invasion), the Soviet Regime had killed between 19,000,000 to 20,000,000 of its own people in peace time. This was confirmed by later Soviet regimes after Stalin's death.

The Germans were simply afraid that had they not invaded the Soviet Union, Stalin's armies, who were preparing to invade Germany and Europe, would have imposed the same savagery, backwardness, and subhumanity on their age old Europe.

 

[p(-)0ENiX]

I'm good Brother, how are you?

I am fine thanks. I have been busy with work & studies alongside a few personal problems that I am still resolving. Anyway, has the forum changed at all since my last visit?

 

[Desert Fox]

It is inevitable. But as a community, Muslims, especially Pakistanis stick out like sore thumbs.
No disrespect to some expats I know. But I've come across some very ill-mannered conservatives.
They hate living here, but they enjoy the benefits they receive, they refuse to work and demand state funded privileges as if it were their God given right. I've come across Pakistanis who don't even bother learning the slightest bit of English, I mean, these guys can barely spell common nouns in English, their communication skills limited to minor conversational phrases. And then comes the inwards behavior of our communities. Then there's cultural barriers, clear lines for voluntary segregation. Then things like terrorism, Shariah zones, radical clerics, grooming cases and also Burqa (which I may add is the definition of what is considered alien in the West).

We are an inviting target and we bought a lot of it on ourselves.

I have experienced the same with some Pakistani expats here as well. But not on a large scale, perhaps because the Pakistani community here isn't as large as the one in Europe.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

The reason USA will be taken over by Hispanics is anyone born there is grated citizenship even if parents are illegals. Thats not the case in Europe. So Europe will continue to be white majority because they can control inmigration. I think websites like stormfront are disgrace, the members there are pathetic. Wanting to preserve whites is one thing but many there go one step further start talking about deporting or down right final solution.

Personaly i believe Hitler was biggest culprit, not only his actions killed millions of whites but also made west more liberal. And because of that any white who is proud of himself is considered racist. Maybe thats another reason stormfront is full of idiots, and because of that vast majority of whites dont want to associate themselfs with neo nazis even if they believe in cause.

USA is lost case, but Europe just need to limit inmigration which they are doing anyway.

 

[-SINAN-]

Example: selling drugs, pimping White girls, raping and molesting White girls, forming gangs and jumping Whites, establishing no-go-zones, enforcing Shariah within a state, cordoning off neighborhood to certain people based on their religious faith, rioting and burning stores, cars, etc, and finally demanding that Europe be turned into a "Islamic" state similar to what the Middle East is.

I didn't believed this stuff once. But my friends living in Europe said this was true and done mostly by north-african people. What i fail to understand, how they are allowed to do this. If these guys came in Turkey and show the same behaviour...... the only duty of the police would be saving these people from the hands of the native Turks. I really don't understand.

 

[Desert Fox]

I am fine thanks. I have been busy with work & studies alongside a few personal problems that I am still resolving. Anyway, has the forum changed at all since my last visit?

Same here, been busy too. Trying to limit my participation on this forum since it does take up more than necessary time.

Well, the forum really hasn't changed much actually. At least i haven't noticed any considerable changes. Besides a few tweaks here and there everything else seems to be the same.