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UAE Mirage to PAF and SH to IAF Extract

Ok, I hope you guys right and I am wrong. But Compare Jf-17 vs Su 30 is that make sense? I am not saying BS to Jf-17, but yea comparing this with other plane is BS.

there is difference between comparing planes & discussing the hypothetical combat scenario between two planes :coffee:
 
well you can compare any plane when then face each other in sky

rest you can say any thing

best pilot with best training and best flying machine will win
 
emo can you tell me what basic Pakistan is getting in R& D IN JF17

AND WHAT IS PAKISTANI SIDE CONTRIBUTION IN THE PROJECT

is it you just get plane from china or your guys did r&d or any thing
 
Adolf Hitler...poor knowledge The engine in F-7PG is Chinese WP-13F turbojet engine way too better than the russian..google for technical data of All F-7/J-7 variants.
 
emo can you tell me what basic Pakistan is getting in R& D IN JF17

AND WHAT IS PAKISTANI SIDE CONTRIBUTION IN THE PROJECT

is it you just get plane from china or your guys did r&d or any thing

They will not say buddy, I opened a thread yesterday, it went upto 8 pages, and No result but flames... not a even a single pakistani said Whats Indeginious in it... all they say is, its confidential:lol:
 
They will not say buddy, I opened a thread yesterday, it went upto 8 pages, and No result but flames... not a even a single pakistani said Whats Indeginious in it... all they say is, its confidential:lol:

Pakdef.info/forum - you can get all your answers there, but if you F* around, they will banned you for life. They don't tolerate BS and trolling like this forum does.

Indians have been asking these questions since 2003 and Pakistanis have answered them thousands of times. Please search this forum, amd many other forum on the internet.
 
Pakdef.info/forum - you can get all your answers there, but if you F* around, they will banned you for life. They don't tolerate BS and trolling like this forum does.

Indians have been asking these questions since 2003 and Pakistanis have answered them thousands of times. Please search this forum, amd many other forum on the internet.

I could not get it, even after search, mind u getting it for me????? And There are many who say that pakistan just contributed little bit of airframe parts... now dont troll when you are made to shut your mouth with a striking question like this, its obvious to happen when you give over hype to an over exagerated product
 
emo can you tell me what basic Pakistan is getting in R& D IN JF17

AND WHAT IS PAKISTANI SIDE CONTRIBUTION IN THE PROJECT

is it you just get plane from china or your guys did r&d or any thing

look boys....there is no harm in learning....even though I haven't digged in it what is PAC contribution towards JF-17....but must remember that we are not born scholars that will start creating things ono our own.....but we are good learners indeed (our enginers made us proud by dilivering first local JF in time) we have taken 1st step.........soon you ll see us running...... and soon after leaping..... no one started on its own....US learned from UK and Germans.....Russians from France, US and Germans, Chinese from Russians, Indians from Russians Israelis and the story goes on.....there is a very thoughtful saying, "if everything could be learnt from books....there wouldn't be any teacher around" so my dear you need someone to take your hand and teach you how to walk....China is one brotherly country :china::pakistan::cheers:
 
Paface,

" Who let the dogs out "----I was just sitting doing my own thing and then this thread pops up---wallah---.

When do you start building an air craft carrier----not at time of war but in times of peace---becasue it will take about 3--4 years to pass the budget, come up with a design etc etc---then 4--5 years to build it----then another 5 years to integrate it into the navy---close to 15 years---.

PAF failed horribly in analyzing the threat from india after Musharraf Wajpayee meating---for that reason they were toying around with sampling different aircrafts after 9/11---till 2005.

The confrontation of 2002, when indian and pak armies faced each other for a whole year was not even an eye opener for the PAF---they carried on happy go lucky. 4 years wasted in ordering a platform---4 years wasted in getting an mlu started for its old F 16's---that was till 2005. Now we are in 2010---not a single mlu F 16 ready yet---mlu hasnot even begun ( is it )---.

I want to wake up the young pakistanis---PAF has been living in ETHER for the last 30---40 years---. Don't take their word that every thing is okay and that they will take care of it all---well they won't---they got nothing to take care of anything except for some obsolete flying machines ( if you compare against the enemy ).

Pakistanis must question the failures of PAF---they must ask them why did they lag behind in ordering the fighter aircvraft right after 9/11----why were they not prepared to get them right away.

Pakistan and india are sitting on a powder keg---it will blow up any time any day---PAF will say we will die for the country---big deal---every jack dies for his country---don't the indian pilots die for their country---what they are forgetting to tell us is that afterwards we will be left to be massacred by the enemy at free will.

you really cant blame the organisation the whole country is like that. our culture has become like that, full of racism, corruption, social ***** ill mannered not social understanding and if someone different comes along an wants to change, make it better/ difference they get side lined get told to shut up. its common in civil or defence organisation. In pakistan if you are better then your work mates you are seen as threat in stead of encouraging your are f--ked over you cant change it but join it to survive....... :pakistan:
 
LCA Tejas

I see BANNED written under your status is now making sense as all your arguments have been discussed in this forum more than once.
 



We should not fall in the Mirage 2000 (Outdated low performance mirage trap)

We need to invest 4-5 billion dollars in our local Radar/Missile technologies and avionics

China is giving us J10B we can fit our own avionics if we invest in these now ....

Forget about Mirage 2000 or 3000

Its our time now ... to stand on our own feet
 
Sir,

If the pigs had wings they would want to fly too---but they don't----and niether does PAF have 4---5 billion dollars.

Only if wishes could ride on the backs of fleet footed steads---.
 
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