UAE Crown Prince to visit Pakistan tomorrow 'to further strengthen bonds of friendship'

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

It's worse, they look as if a camels face was shipped by a leather belt.



I see no reason at all to help them, last 70+ years have they sent any able bodied individual to help us fight? Hell we Pakistani's held our own against a county 7x our size, and they couldn't stop a country the size of Lahore. After spending billions of dollars every year on hardware and equipment and latest tech they shouldn't even have to ask around at all.

The Saudi's alone spend annually $ 60B on weapons -- I never see a KSA personal on the LOC and they have the nerve to ask us to shed our blood and for what so they put a gold medal on Modi, **** them.

Bro, I was only pointing out the hyprocisy. The GCC Arabs are too inferior and retarded to help us. We don't need their help.

Think about the facts. Pakistan has successfully fought off a 7× bigger enemy who has the full backing of the West and Russia, for over 72 years. The Saudis and GCC have some of the most powerful, high-tech, sophisticated American conventional weapons ever made. Yet they are getting stem-rolled and battered by sandel wearing, AK-47 totting Houthi Militia men. That is the biggest embarrassment ever known to mankind..........

Having money because of oil doesn't finish off your inherent inferiority.

 

[El Sidd]

Having money because of oil doesn't finish off your inherent inferiority.

hahahahahahaha

so when you say about the arabs..do you include Qataris? or they too rich and mighty for your aryan race?

 

[PakFactor]

hahahahahahaha

so when you say about the arabs..do you include Qataris? or they too rich and mighty for your aryan race?

It's all Arabs all over the world.

 

[El Sidd]

It's all Arabs all over the world.

Find a Qatar thread and post it there as well. There is one about their world cup and one about their national day parade.

Tag me when you are done

 

[tkmd]

Seriously so many senior members here are also talking like kids n trolls. Be a bit respectful. They say a friend in need is a friend indeed, so tell me frankly who have supported us in our time of need?????

Has anyone ever helped us more than saudi and UAE????? Where was Turkey and Malaysia when Pakistan was about to go bankrupt????? When Pakistan's very existence was in danger it were the arabs who helped us, they funded and helped with our nuclear program. Dont be thankless morons.

International relations are not a zero sum game and UAE or saudi having relations with india is not bad, infact it is good and gives Pakistan openings in india. Sometimes i feel this forum is full of immature, ill informed and emotional idiots.
Personally i would always prefer saudi and UAE over any other country simply because they have been there for us in our every difficult time, they even gave is free oil in wars.
To the arabs here i apologize on behalf of my naive countrymen, you were and always will be our brothers.

You are mistaken. The KSA of the 90s is not the KSA of today. Same of the UAE. They are both

Ok back to my oft-repeated speech (sorry for those who have heard me vent before).

Our problem from day 1 has been this silly pendulum swing. One day we love our allies and partners and next day they are our worst enemies. Before spouting gaalian at the Saudis and Emeratis, where are the millions of ba$tard$ in Pakistan who don't pay a korri in taxes that is due on their earnings? It is these ba$tard$ who force Pakistan's hand to go ask for a helping hand and then cry about Pakistan being a "beggar nation".

Why curse at the Saudis and Emeratis or blame the Turks and Malaysians for not giving us assistance in hard currency when we have the single largest, yet the most useless, ill trained, and uneducated manpower in the world? If we cannot build manufacturing, industry at home, train this enormous baby-making machine to get into the services industry and earn for the country. For those that are earning, it is a religious obligation (farz/d) on them to pay the bloody taxes so this ignominy is not faced by us. Also add the hordes of ba$tard$ who send their money back to Pakistan via Hawala/hundi system bypassing the formal channels that provide Pakistan the forex that it needs. These are all self-inflicted issues. Why blame others for watching out for themselves?

The Saudis and the Emeratis see the gravy train ending for them. They have to think long term for themselves.
This has nothing to do with empathy for Muslims. When the push comes to shove, they will do what makes sense for themselves. I recall Imran Khan was visiting the UAE and some local genius got up and asked him "why don't you and India get together instead of fighting" and I wish I could have reminded that idiot if his own country cannot stop bullying Yemen for a change, how can Pakistan give up on the oppressed Kashmiris! Yet IK was too kind so he gave the standard, diplomatic answer but the point is that most of the Saudis and Emeratis could care less about Kashmiris at the governmental level. They don't want a zero-sum game with Pakistan yet our useless nation expects them to take our side while the very same ba$tard with this expectation refuses to do his part (which is to pay taxes on their earnings).

I agree with you in that this begging bowl culture has got to end. Let’s go bankrupt. Let’s default. I guarantee you nothing earth ending will happen. It is better than expecting others to pay our bills.
On the point of national interest KSA and UAE have CHOICES we don’t. They literally are selling stuff they pay someone else to pump out of their ground. Qatar made a choice. They haven’t gone down this disgusting path that the UAE and KSA have. Kuwait hasn’t. But these two nations are a poisonous cancer in the Muslim world and want to maintain the status quo in which they get to rule their kingdoms with the support of the west. That’s their only interest. THey don’t give a damn about progress or becoming influential or regaining power. And that is why they need to be dumped and forgotten.

When did Pakistan ever ask for a military help??? U do realize the difference?? They asked Pakistan publicly and we denied it, that too through parliament. Imagine u financing a group for decades and when u ask for help they deny and embarrass u publicly...
@waz they let modi bark because our relations were strained.

I am all up for having independent foreign policy but then dont go around with a begging bowl. I would have preferred imran khan hanging all the corrupts and taking into custody their whole families n taking all the looted money but he chose to instead go on a begging spree.

First of all show me the contract they signed which says we shall give you money and then when we want to slaughter innocent Muslims you will come and do it for us.

Second I know you may prefer the thuggish gangster murtad way of ruling like those fat khaleejis but we don’t chop up our civilians and shake down people in hotel jails. We may be poor but we aren’t devils.

 

[xyxmt]

There is one thing that keeps bothering me for last 10 years and may be some of you intelligent members can shed some light on it.

for the point I am trying to make, lets assume our relationship with UAE was 60 (to show better than average) in the year 2000. New UAE princes and Vali-Ehads and crown princes visit numerous times a year to further enhance the relationship. Lets assume we receive 10 Visits per year for this Further Enhancement and we assume every visit at least Further Enhances our relationship up by one point. So, by this assumption our relationships are way over 400%. Does this math makes sense and why do we still keep further improving these relationships.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

bonds of friendship !

 

[Verve]

Ok back to my oft-repeated speech (sorry for those who have heard me vent before).

Our problem from day 1 has been this silly pendulum swing. One day we love our allies and partners and next day they are our worst enemies. Before spouting gaalian at the Saudis and Emeratis, where are the millions of ba$tard$ in Pakistan who don't pay a korri in taxes that is due on their earnings? It is these ba$tard$ who force Pakistan's hand to go ask for a helping hand and then cry about Pakistan being a "beggar nation".

Why curse at the Saudis and Emeratis or blame the Turks and Malaysians for not giving us assistance in hard currency when we have the single largest, yet the most useless, ill trained, and uneducated manpower in the world? If we cannot build manufacturing, industry at home, train this enormous baby-making machine to get into the services industry and earn for the country. For those that are earning, it is a religious obligation (farz/d) on them to pay the bloody taxes so this ignominy is not faced by us. Also add the hordes of ba$tard$ who send their money back to Pakistan via Hawala/hundi system bypassing the formal channels that provide Pakistan the forex that it needs. These are all self-inflicted issues. Why blame others for watching out for themselves?

The Saudis and the Emeratis see the gravy train ending for them. They have to think long term for themselves.
This has nothing to do with empathy for Muslims. When the push comes to shove, they will do what makes sense for themselves. I recall Imran Khan was visiting the UAE and some local genius got up and asked him "why don't you and India get together instead of fighting" and I wish I could have reminded that idiot if his own country cannot stop bullying Yemen for a change, how can Pakistan give up on the oppressed Kashmiris! Yet IK was too kind so he gave the standard, diplomatic answer but the point is that most of the Saudis and Emeratis could care less about Kashmiris at the governmental level. They don't want a zero-sum game with Pakistan yet our useless nation expects them to take our side while the very same ba$tard with this expectation refuses to do his part (which is to pay taxes on their earnings).

Agreed but you missed the part on blackmail ..

Pakistan's foreign policy for these Arab rulers is shifting and rightly so. If we are going to be blackmailed over financial assistance and labour then we will also pull back from a lot of things. Protection umbrella should now just be limited strictly to Makkah and Madinah.

Have UAE and KSA returned any of the loot stashed there?

This blackmail was a good lesson for the decision makers - a pure transactional relations going forward.

 

[Mentee]

hahahahahahaha

so when you say about the arabs..do you include Qataris? or they too rich and mighty for your aryan race?

Arabs aryans or Martians maal do Kam krvayo

Yeh aik badla hoa Pakistan hai yeh halak m hath dal k b revenue generate krvay ga.

The ever famous bacha jamoora for all ain't willing to be that way.

 

[TNT]

First of all show me the contract they signed which says we shall give you money and then when we want to slaughter innocent Muslims you will come and do it for us.

Second I know you may prefer the thuggish gangster murtad way of ruling like those fat khaleejis but we don’t chop up our civilians and shake down people in hotel jails. We may be poor but we aren’t devils

Firstly Even an idiot understands that when someone keeps financing u, they would expect u to help them when needed, this doznt require contracts. If they asked to sign contracts then again ppl like u would be shouting.
Secondly, dont tell me ur soft, do u even know how many of our own citizens have been killed in military operations? We even let americans kill our citizens with drone strikes, heck musharaf sold pakkstanis to US. Do u know how political prisoners have been treated in pak?? Are u from mars or have lived in a delusion? Do u even know how many muslims in Afghanistan have died because of us?? Worry about ur own iman before labelling others as murtad. Living on sood and calling others murtad lolz.
Just 10 months ago we begged for money and now showing attitude, wow lolz

 

[RoadRunner401]

Our nuclear weapons wont be possible if it wasn't for UAE

Really please do share, Sources like I heard it from a friend or Mullah suck and blow told me don't count. I am looking at Pakistani debt and spikes in debt shows otherwise, but hey, I am always willing to learn.

Let me share with you a couple of examples What Arabs got from "Saudi man in Pakistan" Open Sky Agreement giving them complete access to Pakistani air space in return for Nothing coasting Pakistan billions in loss revenue, Not to mention P.I.A almost bankrupt.

Sale of PTCL, For only 26 % Stake IN PTCL they are given management rights. Normal world you need 51% shares of the company to get Management rights. These are only two of the many examples I have listed. I am not even talking about over 10Billion dollars Pakistani have invested in Dubai or billions hidden in Dubai Banks witch these Arabs are refusing to share.

 

[TNT]

Really please do share, Sources like I heard it from a friend or Mullah suck and blow told me don't count. I am looking at Pakistani debt and spikes in debt shows otherwise, but hey, I am always willing to learn.

Let me share with you a couple of examples What Arabs got from "Saudi man in Pakistan" Open Sky Agreement giving them complete access to Pakistani air space in return for Nothing coasting Pakistan billions in loss revenue, Not to mention P.I.A almost bankrupt.

Sale of PTCL, For only 26 % Stake IN PTCL they are given management rights. Normal world you need 51% shares of the company to get Management rights. These are only two of the many examples I have listed. I am not even talking about over 10Billion dollars Pakistani have invested in Dubai or billions hidden in Dubai Banks witch these Arabs are refusing to share.

Am i am sure those who took those decisions got paid very well. Its like blaming them for ur own corruption. By ur logic chinese are our enemies because they have taken unfair advantage frm us too.
Go n do some research about how UAE black market was the place Pakistan got all the necessary hardware.

 

[tkmd]

Firstly Even an idiot understands that when someone keeps financing u, they would expect u to help them when needed, this doznt require contracts. If they asked to sign contracts then again ppl like u would be shouting.
Secondly, dont tell me ur soft, do u even know how many of our own citizens have been killed in military operations? We even let americans kill our citizens with drone strikes, heck musharaf sold pakkstanis to US. Do u know how political prisoners have been treated in pak?? Are u from mars or have lived in a delusion? Do u even know how many muslims in Afghanistan have died because of us?? Worry about ur own iman before labelling others as murtad. Living on sood and calling others murtad lolz.
Just 10 months ago we begged for money and now showing attitude, wow lolz

I don’t have any loans. So no idea what you’re talking about. Second are you seriously comparing our forces going after militants to that fat murtad friend of yours in KSA chopping up an innocent journalist??? Or that clown in Dubai trying to abduct his own wife? Do you think we had a choice in the drone strikes? Or are you suffering from schizophrenia and have poor insight into your disease process?

And lastly you can leave this forum to us beggars and go to the khaleeji forums. We shall see how they treat you.

 

[RoadRunner401]

Am i am sure those who took those decisions got paid very well. Its like blaming them for ur own corruption. By ur logic chinese are our enemies because they have taken unfair advantage frm us too.
Go n do some research about how UAE black market was the place Pakistan got all the necessary hardware.

As suspected nothing but Hot air..

 

[LeGenD]

Seriously so many senior members here are also talking like kids n trolls. Be a bit respectful. They say a friend in need is a friend indeed, so tell me frankly who have supported us in our time of need?????

Has anyone ever helped us more than saudi and UAE????? Where was Turkey and Malaysia when Pakistan was about to go bankrupt????? When Pakistan's very existence was in danger it were the arabs who helped us, they funded and helped with our nuclear program. Dont be thankless morons.

International relations are not a zero sum game and UAE or saudi having relations with india is not bad, infact it is good and gives Pakistan openings in india. Sometimes i feel this forum is full of immature, ill informed and emotional idiots.
Personally i would always prefer saudi and UAE over any other country simply because they have been there for us in our every difficult time, they even gave is free oil in wars.
To the arabs here i apologize on behalf of my naive countrymen, you were and always will be our brothers.