UAE and India offer much to each other

[Aramagedon]

UAE and India offer much to each other
http://www.thenational.ae/opinion/editorial/uae-and-india-offer-much-to-each-other

Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi and Deputy Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, begins his historic three-day visit to India today. It is historic because this will take our time-tested relations to the next level, with the first "strategic dialogue" having been completed last week. It is historic also because of the occasion of the visit: Sheikh Mohammed will be the guest of honour at Republic Day celebrations, an honour accorded only to leaders and their countries that India deems important on the world stage.


Some of the reasons for our strong bonds are well understood. The UAE enables millions of Indians to build their future. Many of them come here to work. But just as importantly, the UAE is also a place for Indian capital to grow through opportunities to be found in our cities and towns, and in a way that only a broader geography can offer: the UAE is India’s gateway to West Asia. It is therefore no surprise that an estimated 60,000 Indian companies operate here. By doing so, the Indian diaspora – whether more conventionally understood as people or as capital – help us to meet our ambition to be a lively commercial hub.


Any successful relationship is a two-way street, of course. India’s economy is growing rapidly. It, in turn, requires investment of a nature that may not be available locally. We in the UAE can offer funding and expertise in areas such as transport links and other forms of infrastructure. Also, we can marry our ample capital to India’s well-acknowledged store of high technology know-how. In these and so many other ways, we both profit.


Finally, the world today is a much changed one from the time of India’s independence in 1947, or even our own union in 1971. The challenges we face are best lessened by the cooperation we extend each other in diverse fields, ranging from security to economics – as shown in the recent talks.

All of this – a partnership and friendship borne by history, our mutual stake in prosperity – is sustained by the bold vision of leaders in both our countries. Sheikh Mohammed’s visit today underscores the wisdom of our relations. And in that, we wish India a happy Republic Day on Thursday.

Arabs have looted Pakistan for several decades but they will go with India eventually. Sad truth....

They have even sold their Palestinian fellows, So why should they care about some Ajams (none Arab) Pakistanis?

In their Arabic forums they (especially Saudis) mock and insult Pakistanis.

Despite we (Iran) have some political differeces with Pakistan, but I say to all of Pakistanis: Pakistan first, Arabs second.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Arabs have looted my Pakistani brothers for several decades but they will go with India evanually. Sad truth...

They have even sold their Palestinian fellows, So why should they care about some Ajams (none Arab) like Pakistanis?

In their Arabic forums they (especially saudis) mock Pakistani brothers. The ones who know arabic are aware of that.

AT least give exmple or proof... word with no sources are just here to provoke hatred, I know that you are a pro in that field, but at least do not behave like your mullahs...

 

[Kaniska]

It'd be interesting what Gulf Arabs would do if ever faced between choosing a strategic security partnership with Pakistan and a full-throttle economic integration with India.

Honest answer is that UAE will stand with Pakistan...India should never expect that in any kind of scenarios where Arab has to choose between the two, Arab nations will stand with us. But it is also true that India and Arab relationship is always about economics..It is never about statergic partnership in broad level. So India neither expect any support in this regard not we will be upset if UAE choose Pakistan strategically but keep on doing investment in India...

Arabs have looted Pakistan for several decades but they will go with India eventually. Sad truth....

They have even sold their Palestinian fellows, So why should they care about some Ajams (none Arab) Pakistanis?

In their Arabic forums they (especially Saudis) mock and insult Pakistanis.

Despite we (Iran) have some political differeces with Pakistan, but I say to all of Pakistanis: Pakistan first, Arabs second.

Let us accept a fact that Arabs provide employment opportunities to million of Pakistani,Indian and also South Asian people. Every one knows that they treat South Asian as second class citizen...But we should also appreciate them that they provide employment to so many people and foreign remittance to native country...

 

[somebozo]

India needs UAE, to improve its relationship with muslim nations, to oppose Pakistan wishful thinking of having all muslim nations team up on India

Pakistan does not engage in such wishful thinking...this is India's dream to isolate Pakistan and they have been going at it like broken tape records...

They must be desperate for call centers.

And wh0res!

The GCC states are gradually getting closer to India.

India will dominate and strongly influence the Arabian Peninsula in the coming decades by virtue of its sheer economic size and cultural/civilizational clout.

Its all about Bollywood effect....in reality its all about economy..GCC needs to sell more oil..India is a huge buyer..

Honest answer is that UAE will stand with Pakistan...India should never expect that in any kind of scenarios where Arab has to choose between the two, Arab nations will stand with us. But it is also true that India and Arab relationship is always about economics..It is never about statergic partnership in broad level. So India neither expect any support in this regard not we will be upset if UAE choose Pakistan strategically but keep on doing investment in India...

economics run strategy..just like Pakistan had no problem giving a thumbs down to Yemen..arabs will have no problem either..especially when a mass chunk of their money is invested in India...

 

[Kaniska]

Pakistan does not engage in such wishful thinking...this is India's dream to isolate Pakistan and they have been going at it like broken tape records...



And wh0res!



Its all about Bollywood effect....in reality its all about economy..GCC needs to sell more oil..India is a huge buyer..



economics run strategy..just like Pakistan had no problem giving a thumbs down to Yemen..arabs will have no problem either..especially when a mass chunk of their money is invested in India...

I do not think so...UAE and Arabs are too rich that they will just dump Pakistan for few hundred billion dollar investment in India...Again, nothing wrong about it..As India is even prepared and do not expect any kind of support from Arabs in political level.

 

[Aslan]

Laugh all you want.

I'm serious about India and the Gulf states.

The Gulf states have a very long and proud history with India. There was a time when the Indian currency was the main currency around here. Kuwaitis and other Gulf Arabs used to be very fluent in Hindi many generations ago. India had a strong cultural influence on this region for many centuries.

India will come back to this region as it grows stronger.

It was the British indian currency not the Indian currency. And it was Persian that was fluently spoken here in kuwait not Hindi.

 

[Jackdaws]

It was the British indian currency not the Indian currency. And it was Persian that was fluently spoken here in kuwait not Hindi.

No. The "Gulf Rupee" was used in Arab countries and was issued by the Reserve Bank of India - this was independent India, not British India.

 

[Aslan]

No. The "Gulf Rupee" was used in Arab countries and was issued by the Reserve Bank of India - this was independent India, not British India.

Only till 61 and I am talking about kuwait only. Others I don't know. And before 47 india was not independent so it was not just because the Kuwaitis loved indians and we're dying to get the Indian rupee. But instead it was the British that imposed it on them.

 

[faithfulguy]

I read the title and was trying to find, what they have to offer each other, and its only investment and humans.

In reality, UAE need India, as India is becoming a bigger economy year by year, it is already the 3rd biggest nation by PPP.

India needs UAE, to improve its relationship with muslim nations, to oppose Pakistan wishful thinking of having all muslim nations team up on India

Does UAE accept payment base on PPP calculation?

UAE also had a stable and respected government as well, and are known leaders of the muslim world

And Indians want their future to look like Dubai. That is why India shoot their India 2030 superpower video in Dubai.

I wonder if Indians servants were hired to play "wealthy and cultured" extras. While European and Americans tourists were hired to play "disgusting" white servants, taxi driver and beggar extras in that movie?

 

[Jackdaws]

Only till 61 and I am talking about kuwait only. Others I don't know. And before 47 india was not independent so it was not just because the Kuwaitis loved indians and we're dying to get the Indian rupee. But instead it was the British that imposed it on them.

All of Arabia prior to their oil jackpot was a backward land of nomads and tribes. Egypt and Iraq were probably the exceptions.

 

[HannibalBarca]

All of Arabia prior to their oil jackpot was a backward land of nomads and tribes. Egypt and Iraq were probably the exceptions.

What is Arabia for you? if you speaking about the arab world, then you forgot north africa and the Middle east. If you speak about only the crescent then you fprgot El sham ( syria) Lebanon...

Have fun with History...

 

[Saif al-Arab]

All of Arabia prior to their oil jackpot was a backward land of nomads and tribes. Egypt and Iraq were probably the exceptions.

Ignorant clown detected. A region that is home to 21 World UNESCO Heritage Sites, home to some of the oldest recorded civilizations, some of the longest continuously inhabited cities and which is the second oldest inhabited spot on the planet after East Africa. You are completely right genius!

Try harder cretin.

PDF at its best.

No. The "Gulf Rupee" was used in Arab countries and was issued by the Reserve Bank of India - this was independent India, not British India.

LOL. Only a few GCC states (all tiny states (population wise) such as Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE etc. - all former British colonies) used the currency. No other Arab nations, KSA included. Wait, Aden used it too for a while as did Oman.

The region used countless of much older indigenous currencies (some of the oldest in the world) before the Brits arrived.

The Arab world is composed of 20 + countries and home to almost 500 million people.

The native populations of Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE combined do not even exceed the population of Riyadh.

The ignorance on this forum.

AT least give exmple or proof... word with no sources are just here to provoke hatred, I know that you are a pro in that field, but at least do not behave like your mullahs...

Some people are mentally ill.

I want to see him actually provide proof for his lies. Of course he can't. Not to say that most Arabs know very little about Pakistan and it is hardly discussed. Let alone mocked or whatever nonsense he wrote.

As for looted? What did we loot exactly? Rice and mango?

The strategic security partnership with Pakistan already exists at least as far as KSA is concerned, Full-throttle economic "integration"_a too big word to use in this context_ is not possible, since The US, UK, China and many others are more competitive than India in too many sectors for that to happen, and when it will happen it will be, bigger trade but nothing like economic integration, the GCC is just too independent to let this Indian dream to ever happen.., trade and diplomatic ties is all what is going to happen and evolve if India does not show too much that it wants to threaten the Arabian sea, GCC countries are aware of those threats and are prudent in their relationships with India..

Exactly.

Wishful thinking...With one correction...We neither want to dominate or influence Arab world. Arab world are rich with their tradition and culture...Our objective to be allign with each other economically, be sensitive to each other's cultural sensitivies and assist with each other for mutual benifit to both nations...

Correct.

Lastly let us get something right here. What was considered India before 1947 (Arabia and "India" trading ties) was basically what is today Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal etc.

The trading and cultural ties (as a consequence of that trade) are indeed several millennia old (some 5000 years) but are mostly confined to what is today Sindh (IVC), Western India, Kerala, Sri Lanka (Sri Lankan Moors being the legacy) and a few other areas as far as I recall.

I doubt that Myanmar, Nepal, Bangladesh or Calcutta were included.

It'd be interesting what Gulf Arabs would do if ever faced between choosing a strategic security partnership with Pakistan and a full-throttle economic integration with India.

No Arab country has any disputes with India or any historical animosity. To begin with mostly only GCC and Iraq have historical ties to South Asia of all Arab states. In terms of trade it is mostly the GCC leading the way as well.

We will continue to trade with India, a country that cannot be ignored but that does not mean that we cannot have cordial ties with Pakistan. Pakistani-Indian disputes are not our matter just like the current Arab-Iranian disputes are
not an Indian or Pakistani matter.

Arabs have traded with the entire world for millennia. Business is business.

Simple as that.

Anyway I welcome closer GCC-India economic ties if that will be mutually beneficially. Anything else would be idiotic. Even Pakistan and India do trade with each other and that will increase in the future so why should we ignore India when nobody else does it? Are we not in our rights to do trade with economic partners like any other states and peoples? We don't demand Pakistan not to do trade with Iran for instance.

Also as for languages, Arabic was widely spoken by traders in South Asia as well and the ruling dynasties and upper classes, especially the Muslim ones. From the Nizam of Hyderabad (who claimed ancestry from Caliph Umar (ra) ) to former ruling dynasties in what is today Pakistan.

 

[Hold up]

India had a strong cultural influence on this region for many centuries.

hindu culture influencing the MUSLIM WORLD. yeah and i just saw a flying sheep over our orchard. ur comment is disgusting

 

[Aslan]

Ignorant clown detected. A region that is home to 21 World UNESCO Heritage Sites, home to some of the oldest recorded civilizations, some of the longest continuously inhabited cities and which is the second oldest inhabited spot on the planet after East Africa. You are completely right genius!

Try harder cretin.

PDF at its best.



LOL. Only a few GCC states (all tiny states (population wise) such as Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE etc. - all former British colonies) used the currency. No other Arab nations, KSA included. Wait, Aden used it too for a while as did Oman.

The region used countless of much older indigenous currencies (some of the oldest in the world) before the Brits arrived.

The Arab world is composed of 20 + countries and home to almost 500 million people.

The native populations of Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE combined do not even exceed the population of Riyadh.

The ignorance on this forum.



Some people are mentally ill.

I want to see him actually provide proof for his lies. Of course he can't. Not to say that most Arabs know very little about Pakistan and it is hardly discussed. Let alone mocked or whatever nonsense he wrote.

As for looted? What did we loot exactly? Rice and mango?



Exactly.



Correct.

Lastly let us get something right here. What was considered India before 1947 (Arabia and "India" trading ties) was basically what is today Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal etc.

The trading and cultural ties (as a consequence of that trade) are indeed several millennia old (some 5000 years) but are mostly confined to what is today Sindh (IVC), Western India, Kerala, Sri Lanka (Sri Lankan Moors being the legacy) and a few other areas as far as I recall.

I doubt that Myanmar, Nepal, Bangladesh or Calcutta were included.



No Arab country has any disputes with India or any historical animosity. To begin with mostly only GCC and Iraq have historical ties to South Asia of all Arab states. In terms of trade it is mostly the GCC leading the way as well.

We will continue to trade with India, a country that cannot be ignored but that does not mean that we cannot have cordial ties with Pakistan. Pakistani-Indian disputes are not our matter just like the current Arab-Iranian disputes are
not an Indian or Pakistani matter.

Arabs have traded with the entire world for millennia. Business is business.

Simple as that.

Anyway I welcome closer GCC-India economic ties if that will be mutually beneficially. Anything else would be idiotic.

Also as for languages, Arabic was widely spoken by traders in South Asia as well and the ruling dynasties and upper classes, especially the Muslim ones. From the Nizam of Hyderabad (who claimed ancestry from Caliph Umar (ra) ) to former ruling dynasties in what is today Pakistan.

Thank u. Actually the fault don't lie with them. They are stupid it's a given, will try to claim anything to quell their insecurities that's also a given. Unfortunately some Arabs just are as ignorant as u can get them when it comes to history. Unfortunately.
How have u been bru
Long time.

All of Arabia prior to their oil jackpot was a backward land of nomads and tribes. Egypt and Iraq were probably the exceptions.

And ur source for ur brilliant post was

 

[Jackdaws]

Ignorant clown detected. A region that is home to 21 World UNESCO Heritage Sites, home to some of the oldest recorded civilizations, some of the longest continuously inhabited cities and which is the second oldest inhabited spot on the planet after East Africa. You are completely right genius!

Try harder cretin.

PDF at its best.



LOL. Only a few GCC states (all tiny states (population wise) such as Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE etc. - all former British colonies) used the currency. No other Arab nations, KSA included. Wait, Aden used it too for a while as did Oman.

The region used countless of much older indigenous currencies (some of the oldest in the world) before the Brits arrived.

The Arab world is composed of 20 + countries and home to almost 500 million people.

The native populations of Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE combined do not even exceed the population of Riyadh.

The ignorance on this forum.



Some people are mentally ill.

I want to see him actually provide proof for his lies. Of course he can't. Not to say that most Arabs know very little about Pakistan and it is hardly discussed. Let alone mocked or whatever nonsense he wrote.

As for looted? What did we loot exactly? Rice and mango?



Exactly.



Correct.

Lastly let us get something right here. What was considered India before 1947 (Arabia and "India" trading ties) was basically what is today Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal etc.

The trading and cultural ties (as a consequence of that trade) are indeed several millennia old (some 5000 years) but are mostly confined to what is today Sindh (IVC), Western India, Kerala, Sri Lanka (Sri Lankan Moors being the legacy) and a few other areas as far as I recall.

I doubt that Myanmar, Nepal, Bangladesh or Calcutta were included.



No Arab country has any disputes with India or any historical animosity. To begin with mostly only GCC and Iraq have historical ties to South Asia of all Arab states. In terms of trade it is mostly the GCC leading the way as well.

We will continue to trade with India, a country that cannot be ignored but that does not mean that we cannot have cordial ties with Pakistan. Pakistani-Indian disputes are not our matter just like the current Arab-Iranian disputes are
not an Indian or Pakistani matter.

Arabs have traded with the entire world for millennia. Business is business.

Simple as that.

Anyway I welcome closer GCC-India economic ties if that will be mutually beneficially. Anything else would be idiotic. Even Pakistan and India do trade with each other and that will increase in the future so why should we ignore India when nobody else does it? Are we not in our rights to do trade with economic partners like any other states and peoples? We don't demand Pakistan not to do trade with Iran for instance.

Also as for languages, Arabic was widely spoken by traders in South Asia as well and the ruling dynasties and upper classes, especially the Muslim ones. From the Nizam of Hyderabad (who claimed ancestry from Caliph Umar (ra) ) to former ruling dynasties in what is today Pakistan.

Duffer detected.

I qualified my statement with "probably" - of course there have been great civilizations that emerged out of that landmass. But one needs to distinguish between the modern era and the medieval era.

Did I state ALL Arab countries used the Gulf Rupee as their currency or did you just pull it out of thin air?

What exactly was your country Saudi Arabia (based on your flag) IN THE MODERN ERA before the oil boom? Was there any industry? Were there any mills? Were there any Universities churning out R&D? Or any contribution in the field of Science? Or Medicine? Or Math?

No - Arabs have to go back to the medieval era to come up with something they gave to the world. From what I have read (correct me if I am wrong) - before the oil boom, the Saudis were basically nomads - not very literate.

And even then, it was not until sometime in the 1960s that under pressure from Western nations did countries like Saudi Arabia actually ban slavery. I understand it still continues in poor Arab countries like Mauritania. It is not a leap of imagination to conclude that without Oil, much of Arabia including Saudi Arabia would have been in the same boat as Mauritania today is.