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U.S will soon sell weapons to Vietnam?

So you should know that's a personal bantering between him and us. And you should also know what racial generalizations he has on us since you have been following him around and gave him 'thanks' on many. How about his every post in conversation with Chinese, which accounts for 75%, is always in arrogant and belittling tones. Please do not tell me you don't know and give me a double standard of 'racial' against him.
Mate In case if you don't know because you are registered here in the 2012, he was not the first to start these kind of words against Chinese or Iranians . He was just putting his views about j-20 until some harsh comments against his Viet origin were thrown by Chinese members. I have been following this Forum since 2010 although my criteria is to learn from professionals.
and as far as the 'THANK' is concerned the same thing all Chinese do when they see an anti India or Anti USA or Anti Vietnam post.
 
Viet Nam and India WILL be China's great pains in the south and western fronts, Japan and the US will harass China in the east, and the Russians will contain China in the north. Pakistan can do nothing.
may god bless :D
 
Mate In case if you don't know because you are registered here in the 2012, he was not the first to start these kind of words against Chinese or Iranians . He was just putting his views about j-20 until some harsh comments against his Viet origin were thrown by Chinese members. I have been following this Forum since 2010 although my criteria is to learn from professionals.
and as far as the 'THANK' is concerned the same thing all Chinese do when they see an anti India or Anti USA or Anti Vietnam post.


Personally I have no problem with him however I like a little good nature needling with him with words milder that what he gave us. Peace.
 
Viet Nam and India WILL be China's great pains in the south and western fronts, Japan and the US will harass China in the east, and the Russians will contain China in the north. Pakistan can do nothing.

Oh, come on! China is surrounded by midgets.

1. Vietnam has an economy of $100 billion. China's economy is $7.3 trillion. Vietnam is 1/73rd China's size. Let's cross ultra-midget Vietnam off the list of potential problems for China.

2. It will take years for Japan to recover from their earthquake, tsunami, and Fukushima nuclear meltdown. Also, Japan has a national debt at 200% of GDP. Japan is in intensive care and they won't be bothering anybody for a long time to come. We'll scratch off sclerotic Japan from the list.

3. U.S. is busy cutting its defense budget, because the government is broke with national debt at 100% of GDP. The Philippines begged the U.S. for military aid. In response, the U.S. doubled its annual military aid to the Philippines from $25 million to $50 million. With $50 million, the Filipinos can buy ONE F-16 without spares, training, or ammunition.

4. The Russians are angry at NATO for the continued attempts at encirclement. NATO insistence on building an anti-missile system on Russia's border has led to Russian threats of pre-emptive nuclear strikes. The Russian relationship with China is very friendly (see citation below). Both countries recently conducted a joint naval exercise.

5. Pakistan is an all-weather friend of China and a reliable ally.

You can keep on dreaming Gambit, but the geopolitical situation looks quite favorable to China.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...tighten-key-alliance/articleshow/13764785.cms

"Putin visits China to tighten key alliance
AFP | Jun 3, 2012, 09.37AM IST

MOSCOW: President Vladimir Putin visits China on Tuesday on the first trip to Asia of his new Kremlin mandate to tighten an increasingly close alliance that is key for Russia's diplomatic and economic strategy.

Putin, who began a historic third term as president less than a month ago, has already made a lightning trip to Germany and France but will symbolically be visiting Beijing before the United States.

The sometimes troubled Moscow-Beijing relationship has warmed during Putin's 12 years of domination over Russia and the two governments are notably in lockstep in opposing outside intervention to solve the Syrian crisis.

"One can understand where the vector of Russian policy is turned" with the Beijing visit, commented Georgy Kunadze, a China expert at the Russian Academy of Sciences and former diplomat.

Putin is likely to coordinate positions with President Hu Jintao on the violence in Syria and Iranian nuclear crisis, with the West keenly aware both UN Security Council permanent members are prepared to wield their vetoes.

But economic issues are also set to figure prominently on the three-day trip, particularly the energy sector as Russia searches for new markets while China seeks cheap natural resources.

Russian energy giant Gazprom over the last week held talks in China in an apparent bid to overcome continued disagreements over gas prices in a landmark contract that has been in its final stages since last summer.

The long-term deal envisages that Russia is to annually supply nearly 70 billion cubic metres of natural gas to China over the next thirty years, under a framework agreement signed in late 2009.

Russian deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich said this week that the sides have still not reached an agreement on price, and it is unlikely that the deal will be signed during Putin's visit.

Meanwhile, Russian media reported this week that the two countries are also preparing to launch a joint aerospace project to develop a long-range passenger plane based on Russian know-how and Chinese investment which would challenge giants Airbus and Boeing.

The presidency of Dmitry Medvedev -- who held the Kremlin from 2008 to May of this year while Putin served as prime minister -- was marked by optimism about Russia's strengthening relations with the United States.

But Putin led observers to believe his foreign policy will be rooted elsewhere when he surprisingly cancelled a trip to the United States last month that was to have been the first foreign visit of his new term.

On Wednesday, Putin will participate in a Beijing summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, a security body that includes Russia's former Soviet partners in Central Asia and a handful of observer states, including Iran.

Putin's attendance at the SCO summit -- seen as a fledgling eastern counterpart to NATO -- is also symbolic given he was absent from the NATO summit in Chicago amid a row with the United States over missile defence.

Putin is a frequent guest of Chinese leaders, last visiting Beijing as recently as October in his capacity as prime minister. It was his only foreign trip after he announced in September his plan to run for president.

A month after his visit, he was awarded China's version of the Nobel prize for "keeping world peace".

Relations between the territorial giants, who share a frontier of 4,000 kilometres, have improved since Putin first entered the Kremlin in 2000, especially after outstanding border issues were regulated in 2005.

While Russia's economy pales in comparison with China's growing economic might, Putin indicated in his pre-election foreign policy manifesto that Moscow does not view its neighbour to the east as a threat.

"Growth of China's economy is not a threat," he wrote, instead seeking "Chinese potential in developing Siberia and the Far East," regions with a wealth of energy resources which are battling a population drain.

Putin will be arriving in China from ex-Soviet Uzbekistan, where he is due on Monday to meet President Islam Karimov."
 
Vietnam need a 10billion USD military budget annually if they want to counter China effectively. Do they have that money???

Buying a few junk ship from India or USN is not going to do anything to China. Probably scrap off the paint of our 053 Jianghu frigate the most while we sunk off the whole Vietnam navy...

Less than 10 billion, no talk.
 
Have you considered the larger picture?

Suppose China says to India, you are arming belligerent Vietnam. Therefore, China will hold India responsible for Vietnamese aggression against China. Is India ready for the Chinese retaliation? The PLA will be at your door to remind India of the price for arming aggressors against China.

India supports anti-Chinese countries and PLA takes you out. How does that sound to you? Are you still eager to sell Vietnam some hand-me-down military equipment?

lol..which country on earth get attack in modern days for selling weapon????if this is the fact,then after Libya,US should attack Russia..and no country is not so fickle do attack a neighbour just for exporting weapons(except you are watching Prince of Persia too much)..its responsibility of the country who uses the weapon..
 
Oh, come on! China is surrounded by midgets.

1. Vietnam has an economy of $100 billion. China's economy is $7.3 trillion. Vietnam is 1/73rd China's size. Let's cross ultra-midget Vietnam off the list of potential problems for China.

2. It will take years for Japan to recover from their earthquake, tsunami, and Fukushima nuclear meltdown. Also, Japan has a national debt at 200% of GDP. Japan is in intensive care and they won't be bothering anybody for a long time to come. We'll scratch off sclerotic Japan from the list.

3. U.S. is busy cutting its defense budget, because the government is broke with national debt at 100% of GDP. The Philippines begged the U.S. for military aid. In response, the U.S. doubled its annual military aid to the Philippines from $25 million to $50 million. With $50 million, the Filipinos can buy ONE F-16 without spares, training, or ammunition.

4. The Russians are angry at NATO for the continued attempts at encirclement. NATO insistence on building an anti-missile system on Russia's border has led to Russian threats of pre-emptive nuclear strikes. The Russian relationship with China is very friendly. Both countries recently conducted a joint naval exercise.

5. Pakistan is an all-weather friend of China and a reliable ally.

You can keep on dreaming Gambit, but the geopolitical situation looks quite favorable to China.
Martian2 u r sounding like Hitler man..What makes u think that these countries will seat idle if u do any mischiefs to vietnam?Talk something sensible.
 
Have you considered the larger picture?

Suppose China says to India, you are arming belligerent Vietnam. Therefore, China will hold India responsible for Vietnamese aggression against China. Is India ready for the Chinese retaliation? The PLA will be at your door to remind India of the price for arming aggressors against China.

India supports anti-Chinese countries and PLA takes you out. How does that sound to you? Are you still eager to sell Vietnam some hand-me-down military equipment?

are you high on something ? PLA is in no position for that, overestimating yourself is not good,
every country act's according to it's national interest so does India.

we can apply same for pakistan. i 'll be glad if india can supply vietnam with nuclear tech for peaceful purpose :rolleyes:
 
From bbc.co.uk/vietnamese/

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Yeah, US should sell Lethal weapon to VN soon, that's the way to make friend with us . We need US to sell a better bomb than CBU-55 (kill 2,500 troop in single blast)now.

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Perfect example of EVER Evolving GEO- POLITICS......
No one is your Friend or ENEMY for ever.........................................
 
I suggest you read my post again (see below). I've already stated that I can't remember a single instance of America accepting barter payment. Does anybody know if the U.S. has ever accepted barter payment in a government-to-government military procurement in the last thirty years?

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America won't accept barter payment

Russians are willing to conduct some arms deals with barter. As far as I know, the United States only sells its arms for hard cash or gives it away in military aid.

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Dude, you must understand that US wanna sell lethal weapons to VN, not VN wanna buy US's weapons . So, if she wanna sell, then sell it on credit, or she can't sell bcz we don't have $$$ to buy.
 
At Griffin, Russia growled at U.S. for arming Georgia.

At ScorpionX, China's economy will hit $8 trillion this year. China keeps growing larger and the midget countries surrounding China keep growing smaller.

At WetShirtContest, India cannot sustain a $40 billion military budget. Your economy is collapsing and the Indian Rupee is depreciating at incredible speed. When the RBI runs out of forex, India will run out of oil and military hardware imports. Your country is a basket case. Sorry.

At NiceGuy, China grows by almost a trillion dollars in GDP each year. At roughly $100 billion in GDP, Vietnam will always be an ant to China. Just don't make the PLA step on you.
 
At Griffin, Russia growled at U.S. for arming Georgia.

At ScorpionX, China's economy will hit $8 trillion this year. China keeps growing larger and the midget countries surrounding China keep growing smaller.

At WetShirtContest, India cannot sustain a $40 billion military budget. Your economy is collapsing and the Indian Rupee is depreciating at incredible speed. When the RBI runs out of forex, India will run out of oil and military hardware imports. Your country is a basket case. Sorry.

At NiceGuy, China grows by almost a trillion dollars in GDP each year. At roughly $100 billion in GDP, Vietnam will always be an ant to China. Just don't make the PLA step on you.
Sorry, we're stepping on you guys in SCS(east sea) now :P

Where are PLAN-PLAAF ?? do they know how to fight in Real combat ??:P
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At Griffin, Russia growled at U.S. for arming Georgia.

At ScorpionX, China's economy will hit $8 trillion this year. China keeps growing larger and the midget countries surrounding China keep growing smaller.

At WetShirtContest, India cannot sustain a $40 billion military budget. Your economy is collapsing and the Indian Rupee is depreciating at incredible speed. When the RBI runs out of forex, India will run out of oil and military hardware imports. Your country is a basket case. Sorry.

At NiceGuy, China grows by almost a trillion dollars in GDP each year. At roughly $100 billion in GDP, Vietnam will always be an ant to China. Just don't make the PLA step on you.

Knew it, from weapons and Chinese attacks to --> Indian economics and defence budget :what:
Mate You are dodging your own comment now,,, does Your above post prove that china will attack India if we sell weapon's to Vietnam ? lol

I humbly request don't give me off-topic economics classes Chinese situation is no different nowdays. you are free to open a new thread for this.
 
Hehe, we can buy weapon on Credit , and Russia also has promised to build a submarine base for our Kilos

Our amry is not use to fight with Weak country like China (militia groups is enough), it will be used to control Malacca strait in the future :coffee:

So you are asking US to supply weapon to Vietnam so you can wrestle the control of Malacca strait from the US in the future. You are total nut case.
 

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