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[A2Z]

You cannot use them against our genuine enemies. A bitter truth...

You mean indian aircrafts are above F-16's pay grade?

 

[New World]

They were purchased to counter threat from soviet union to maintain peace in this region.

so sir, you want to say that Pakistan's most advanced machine will not be used against India in war?

 

[Wolfhound]

Jf-17 is lightweight and is only to replace mirage, F-7.. we need medium weight jet with multirole capabilities

Jf-17 block 1 was a lightweight but the block-2 is mediumweight with 5000 kg of payload capacity and it is also a true multirole fighter.

 

[Burhan Wani]

You mean indian aircrafts are above F-16's pay grade?

F16 deal was signed only to stabilize peace in region.

so sir, you want to say that Pakistan's most advanced machine will not be used against India in war?

You are living in 21st century my friend so no need of conventional warfare.
US army use more advanced weapons in Afghanistan now they are struggling to maintain occupation.

 

[A2Z]

F16 deal was signed only to stabilize peace in region.

PAF is a defensive force and its purpose is to repel any attack on our soil. After Mumbai drama when sukhois violated our air space our F-16 were able to lock them.
So yes with the current air craft inventory we cannot attack IAF. But can hold and repel them?

 

[Burhan Wani]

PAF is a defensive force and its purpose is to repel any attack on our soil. After Mumbai drama when sukhois violated our air space our F-16 were able to lock them.
So yes with the current air craft inventory we cannot attack IAF. But can hold and repel them?

Dear friend my point is "Self relience"
At the time of abbotabad operation where were our entire F 16 fleet?

 

[Sine Nomine]

3) Yes IAF has greater numbers but it does not have all the aircraft in flying condition, according to one of the sources MKI has only 50% serviceability i.e half are present to fly and rest are in maintenance. Russian aircrafts are a mintainance nightmare.

MKI serviceability is increasing,current Indian Government is procuring spares from many vendors other then Russia to make sure more then 50% of MKI fleet is available all the time.Soviet designed aircraft with top priority of less maintenance.
India defence minister admits Su-30 serviceability issues - IHS Jane's 360

4) India cannot use all its force against Pakistan it has to keep an eye on dragon as well.

No one is going to jump in you fire even no one did this for us in 1971 and i am sure we are not going to see worst then that in future.

 

[A2Z]

Dear friend my point is "Self relience"

I totally agree with you on that.

No one is going to jump in you fire even no one did this for us in 1971 and i am sure we are not going to see worst then that in future.

My point was India cannot leave its western border unguarded which leaves us with lesser MKIs to deal with.

 

[rockstar08]

probably talking about the remaining 18 F-16's block 52's ....
if US agree on that , than it will be big boost in PAF capabilities ..

 

[Sine Nomine]

My point was India cannot leave its western border unguarded which leaves us with lesser MKIs to deal with.

But still they will be kept ready and full armed whenever IAF thinks they are losing against PAF they rush that to our bases in no time.

 

[A2Z]

But still they will be kept ready and full armed whenever IAF thinks they are losing against PAF they rush that to our bases in no time.

If PAF would have an upper hand they wont mind extra Su-30s.

 

[khalidzaheen1]

Eurofighter will be on offer if india goes foe rafael. But not a preferable solution ..ideally if jf17 block 3 can hold ground till j31 is available...but if thats far away than j10b should be inducted..

euro fighter is very expensive ..for countering rafale pakistan would go for j10b,,or may be china would have introduced j10C till that time ...i saw it some where that they are working on j10c ,and say that itss performance will match hornet ..lets see what happens

 

[flameboard]

Is F-16 still a modern aircraft? Why is it so popular in PAF?? I've been hearing this name since over a decade now.

Overall it's just a very good aircraft. It's still the backbone of USAF. It's also multi-role. Having said that I don't get why PAF never persued aircraft just just deal with air superiority like f-15, Eurofighter or any number of similar aircraft

 

[New World]

F16 deal was signed only to stabilize peace in region.


You are living in 21st century my friend so no need of conventional warfare.
US army use more advanced weapons in Afghanistan now they are struggling to maintain occupation.

and IF only aerial war broke out and our mirage and f-7 and jf-17 are able to face MKI and mirage 2k-5?

Dear friend my point is "Self relience"
At the time of abbotabad operation where were our entire F 16 fleet?

So, where was mirages, and f-7s at the time of abbotabad Operation?

 

[SrNair]

1) PAF does not only have F-16 we now have 50 JF-17s as well and more to come in future.
2) As soon as PAF learned about Rafale, started to discuss J-10B with China which we eventually did not buy because India did not signed Rafale.
3) Yes IAF has greater numbers but it does not have all the aircraft in flying condition, according to one of the sources MKI has only 50% serviceability i.e half are present to fly and rest are in maintenance. Russian aircrafts are a mintainance nightmare.
4) India cannot use all its force against Pakistan it has to keep an eye on dragon as well.

Funny .For JF 17 we have LCA is in here.MK2 will inducted within few years and stealthy MK 3 is also in developement.
Serviceability is already increased and Mig 29 UPG would be the first one that engages F16 and then only Su 30 or Rafale .