U.S. senator: Reconsider Iraq Apache sale because of Iran arms deal report

[Oldman1]

I never understood how a chopper can be stealth, there is a huge rotor on the top.

I saw the pictures of American stealth chopper but does it really have a difference to regular choppers?

Just because there is a rotor on top does not mean the U.S. military gave up making it stealthy. If there was no difference they wouldn't even try to do anything to sway from conventional helo designs would they?

 

[xenon54 out]

Just because there is a rotor on top does not mean the U.S. military gave up making it stealthy. If there was no difference they wouldn't even try to do anything to sway from conventional helo designs would they?

Ofcourse, but im trying to understand how it is going to be stealth.

 

[Oldman1]

Ofcourse, but im trying to understand how it is going to be stealth.

I'm not an expert, but the basics are the fuselage itself by making sharp angles on the aircraft to deflect radar waves. Like you see on the Comanche. Look at the tail rotor how its angled. Make it quieter, suppressing the heat source of its engines, RAM coating on the fuselage, different materials used on the fuselage, etc. And obviously make it black for night operations to make it harder to the naked eye to see it.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

I was right

U.S. begins training Iraqis on Apache helicopters after green light from Congress | World Tribune

WASHINGTON — The United States has been preparing for a major military training program for Iraq.

Officials said the U.S. military would train its Iraqi counterpart in the operation of the AH-64 Apache attack helicopter. They said the program would begin in early March 2014 in Iraq.

“Things are moving rapidly for the first stage of the program,” an official said.

On Feb. 13, a senior military officer said the first stage of the U.S. program would train 16 Iraqis to fly the Apache. Maj. Gen. William Bender, deputy director of the Office of Security Cooperation in Iraq, told a briefing that the training project would include private contractors.

The administration of President Barack Obama has approved an Iraqi request for the export of 24 AH-64E Apaches In the first stage of the project, the Pentagon would lease six Apaches to the Iraqi military for training.

In the briefing, Bender said Apache prime contractor Boeing has not begun production of the Apaches for Iraq. He did not elaborate.

The Apaches, which were not blocked by Congress, marked the second
biggest U.S. arms project in Iraq. Bender said the Baghdad government signed
a 30-year contract with Lockheed Martin for the delivery of up to 36 F-16
Block 52 multi-role fighters.

30 year contract for 36 F-16s

 

[Superboy]

Did McCain forget that Iraq is ruled by the Shia Islamist party which is closely allied with Iran?

 

[Doritos11]

30 year contract for 36 F-16s

Contract on paper always puts more years + highest possible price so that they don’t have to make a new contract if circumstances give the need for it.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Contract on paper always puts more years + highest possible price so that they don’t have to make a new contract if circumstances give the need for it.

Depending not all contracts are as dull as this one.

 

[Doritos11]

Depending not all contracts are as dull as this one.

This is not the contract just a newspaper,
for the real information look up : DSCA Iraq F16.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

This is not the contract just a newspaper,
for the real information look up : DSCA Iraq F16.

You mean just a columnist throwing it at random?

 

[Doritos11]

You mean just a columnist throwing it at random?

Could be

You mean just a columnist throwing it at random?

Iraq F-16 Aircraft | The Official Home of the Defense Security Cooperation Agency

Implementation of this proposed sale will require multiple trips to Iraq involving U.S. Government and contractor representatives for technical reviews/support, program management, and training over a period of 15 years.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Could be



Iraq F-16 Aircraft | The Official Home of the Defense Security Cooperation Agency

Hmm

Iraq will need more jets to counter all challenges both local and beyond its borders.

 

[Doritos11]

Hmm

Iraq will need more jets to counter all challenges both local and beyond its borders.

SU 35 I hope

@Arzamas 16

Do you think theres a chance for SU 35 export to a non Russian allie like Iraq

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

SU 35 I hope

@Arzamas 16

Do you think theres a chance for SU 35 export to a non Russian allie like Iraq

They did offer it to non-allied states already such as Libya .. So yes, they can offer it to Iraq.

@Doritos11

Iraq can also examine other planes such as the Rafale, Saab 39 4.5 gen.

 

[Doritos11]

Iraq can also examine other planes such as the Rafale, Saab 39 4.5 gen.

Sweden doesn’t like to sell to states in the ME (warmongers) or what it should be called, the US handed over AT 4 rocket launchers to Iraq, that caused uproar in the Swedish parliament so no way they would sell Gripen.

Rafale = possible but overpriced

 

[Oldman1]

Wait hold on a minute. How many planes is Iraq buying?