what does that have to do with my thread? i'm talking about our military size and industry not G20,
but to clear that for you, we are G20 because we sell oil which is burried under our feet not because we are indusrialised or producing any thing other than oil, our oil production is increasing therefor GDP increases as well, thanks to the comptent ARAMCO.
The G20 doesn't count members based on what the sell or export solely, otherwise China and Germany would have eaten all member states. It counts the imports, exports, GPD per capita, national reserves, a given industrial base(s) in KSA's case it isn't solely for oil either. Additionally, the G20 represents the 20th richest nations on earth regardless of what they have under the sand.
If it was for oil, then Nigeria and Venezuela would have been admitted centuries ago.
What about SAABC, Al-Fanar, Sadara, Petro Rabigh, YANSAB, and Madden? The list can go longer and longer.
Incorrect, there are other countries in the middle east who have stronger military, we don't even have/produce ammunition, i don't have to remind you that during houthi war, we ran out of ammuntion!! (i did not want to talk about that in public where foreigners can see it but since you are insisting you got it)
Run out of ammunition? What about Ahsa's artillery-ammunition complex, Kharj's, Al-Taif's, Al-Farais's, and ACE?
Turkey? since when we are allies with turkey?...Ordogan is against us in egypt and supporting the muslims brothers there, our relations with turkey is bad at the moment, not to mention we never were allies with turkey. (i don't even want to talk about the international community, doesn't even worth a reply sorry)
You seem to be utterly misinformed about politics, Erdogan stands can't affect Turkey's relations with KSA's at all cost particularly this time. Many Turks are fed up with his gun-boat policy, however, this doesn't grant him an enemy status of Saudi!
Hellz, he never brought up our name, and he bashed the West off.
- few days ago you did not miss the iraqi attack on our northern borders? did you?
- did miss yemen attacks in 1996 on our southern borders including a massacre in a school? probaly you did, i'm sure you don't know at that time we were on the brink of war with the lovely Ali saleh.
- i don't think you missed houthi war in 2009?
- you did not know that sudanese among other nationalities were fighting with houthi?
1- Similar incidents took place in the past, and if you are so concerned about that, please be ware that uglier things took place in the past for years, and was dealt with such as counter drug-smuggling operations, and intercepting a cartel filled with arms, we know to whom they are going to deliver them for as well.
2- The incident you are referring to took place in 93 not 96. But either way, no school is closed or next to the boarders with Yemen. We learned a lot from the 60s, if the MoE ever approved such school-project, the Minister of the MoE would have lost his job the next day.
In 93, Saleh warned that he's going to break away from the South by triggering another civil war, which eventually will drag us into but we bought him as much as we bought them in Taif. Ever since they became our puppets, we literally control them and can easily trigger another conflict. Ever heard of Mohmmad Bin Naïf? The King of Yemen?
these are just few examples of what you call brotherly neighbors
, i'm not going to explain more, i think my point is clear
Politics is politics, but people are naive.
I do think you are a false-flagger though.
not at all it is not facts, but since you are insisting i will clear few things for you.
what does that have to do with my thread? i'm talking about our military size and industry not G20,
but to clear that for you, we are G20 because we sell oil which is burried under our feet not because we are indusrialised or producing any thing other than oil, our oil production is increasing therefor GDP increases as well, thanks to the comptent ARAMCO.
Incorrect, there are other countries in the middle east who have stronger military, we don't even have/produce ammunition, i don't have to remind you that during houthi war, we ran out of ammuntion!! (i did not want to talk about that in public where foreigners can see it but since you are insisting you got it)
Thats also incorrect, Saudi Arabia did not think invading iraq was a good idea, but there was no rift at all, the relations were excellent, bush did not try to stab us in the back like Obama doing now and we did not really mind seeing Saddam been removed eventually.
why would they leave? when we give them more than ask for? they will just keep using and draining us....thats all they need.
Turkey? since when we are allies with turkey?...Ordogan is against us in egypt and supporting the muslims brothers there, our relations with turkey is bad at the moment, not to mention we never were allies with turkey. (i don't even want to talk about the international community, doesn't even worth a reply sorry)
No one rules for ever, we deal with what we see now, not the future, you think Al sauds will rule for ever too?....no one rules for ever, beside iran is just one problem we have of many others, we are surrounded by problems from north, east, west and south.
Probably because you were not even born in 1990
- few days ago you did not miss the iraqi attack on our northern borders? did you?
- did miss yemen attacks in 1996 on our southern borders including a massacre in a school? probaly you did, i'm sure you don't know at that time we were on the brink of war with the lovely Ali saleh.
- i don't think you missed houthi war in 2009?
- you did not know that sudanese among other nationalities were fighting with houthi?
these are just few examples of what you call brotherly neighbors
, i'm not going to explain more, i think my point is clear
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as i said i can burry my head in the sand and tell you every thing is great and ok, all countries around us are our friends etc, but the reality is totally different and i prefer to be honest and truthful, i can't lie.
Yeah sure, sold the country to Iran and setting up a Shia government then the influence grew more. Doesn't sound "excellent" to me.
Sounds like you were in the army or something? Seems that you saw the experience in reality. Reminded me of this quote when you said the last paragraph -
"An enemy of an enemy is my friend". Thus, no help from the "allies" when Iran meddles your affairs. Anyway, I'm glad Saudi Arabia woke up and saw the true colours of Iran-US. I also like to say if they are feeling too hostile then they will know that it is suicidal for Iran to trigger their dream aspiration in the Arabia (wants to revive Persia, reason for nukes) even if they are comfortable revealing their alliance with the US because beside America and Israel, the Mullahs is one of the most hated country to the Muslim world as long the Ayatollahs remain in rule and they won't confront the 1+ billion Muslims.
I will resign off my post if it turned that he were in the army
Anyway, Iran wants nuclear weapons to guarantee the survivability of its regime primarily.