Two F-22P heading to Yemen today

[Secur]

But we wont send the troops or any other materials for stupid mess in to foreign nations.
Our relation with GCC,Iran and all others are just based on pure bilateral relation.And we have an indepednent foreign policy.

I am neither saying or implying that you will do, no you are far more intelligent than that. One of the things I admire about India is its neutral free foreign policy without any fantasy/delusion of friends, brothers. Just pointing out to my countrymen that if relations with India make Iran some perceived enemy, then what would they call this?

 

[The SiLent crY]

Pakistanis had the most favorable views of Iran and Indians had one of the most negative views of Iran just 2 years ago.
After Iran's alliance with India and allowing Indians to roam at Pakistan border in the cover of Chah Bahar port, do you still expect Pakistan to trust Iran? Two years ago I've made my point here at PDF that if Iran allows India(the number one enemy of Pakistan) to become active in Pakistan's border areas, don't expect Pakistan to sit quiet.

How can you even think that you can demand everything sweet while delivering poison to your best friend? It was Iran who went far ahead with India when Pakistan had the most favorable views of Iran and when Pakistan was standing for Iran internationally while India was opposing you guys.

Hi again ,

Any reliable source for Iran's role against Pakistan ?

 

[kaku1]

I am neither saying or implying that you will do, no you are far more intelligent than that. One of the things I admire about India is its neutral free foreign policy without any fantasy/delusion of friends, brothers. Just pointing out to my countrymen that if relations with India make Iran some perceived enemy, then what would they call this?

Thats my whole point in all the these Yemen threads. And that make me sick when Pak members says we supporting Saudi because of brotherhood and Mecca/Medina.

On other note, the Iran-India relations going to prosper, I am damn sure about it. But why this makes Iran as Pak enemy? I dont get it at all.

 

[SrNair]

I am neither saying or implying that you will do, no you are far more intelligent than that. One of the things I admire about India is its neutral free foreign policy without any fantasy/delusion of friends, brothers. Just pointing out to my countrymen that if relations with India make Iran some perceived enemy, then what would they call this?

Oh sorry sir .It was my mistake that misunderstood your post.
We dont have any friends .All those who keeps coming to India is only looking for our market and money .So we are just maintaining a balanced policy .Same reason and approach enabled us to keep a full fledged relations with Iran ,KSA and Israel.

Thats my whole point in all the these Yemen threads. And that make me sick when Pak members says we supporting Saudi because of brotherhood and Mecca/Medina.

On other note, the Iran-India relations going to prosper, I am damn sure about it. But why this makes Iran as Pak enemy? I dont get it at all.

Oh dude .Mecca and Medina are important to the Muslims .They wont tolerate an attack in that soil.
But Pakistanis dont have any choice.Their PM Sharif is totally under the control of Saudi .They dont have any choice.

 

[Bratva]

But we wont send the troops or any other materials for stupid mess in to foreign nations.
Our relation with GCC,Iran and all others are just based on pure bilateral relation.And we have an indepednent foreign policy.

Sr.Nair. This is the most hypocritical post I heard from you in a while. What about IPKF and Operation cactus then ? Forgetting your own history innocently/on purpose is a worse thing to do during taking a higher moral ground debates

Oh sorry sir .It was my mistake that misunderstood your post.
We dont have any friends .All those who keeps coming to India is only looking for our market and money .So we are just maintaining a balanced policy .Same reason and approach enabled us to keep a full fledged relations with Iran ,KSA and Israel.




Oh dude .Mecca and Medina are important to the Muslims .They wont tolerate an attack in that soil.
But Pakistanis dont have any choice.Their PM Sharif is totally under the control of Saudi .They dont have any choice.

I petty your crticial thinking analysis. Really If you think this way. It's not your fault, it your biased mind which prevents you from thinking clearly

 

[kaku1]

Sr.Nair. This is the most hypocritical post I heard from you in a while. What about IPKF and Operation cactus then ? Forgetting your own history innocently/on purpose is a worse thing to do during taking a higher moral debates

Because that situation was directly threatening Indian national security.

I said this many times in many threads, if Pak was sending its jet for striking ISIS, I praise them. They are threat to Pak national security, but in no way Yemen is threat to Pak.

 

[Bratva]

Thats my whole point in all the these Yemen threads. And that make me sick when Pak members says we supporting Saudi because of brotherhood and Mecca/Medina.

On other note, the Iran-India relations going to prosper, I am damn sure about it. But why this makes Iran as Pak enemy? I dont get it at all.

Perhaps this posts makes your understanding better. And it's your fault if you think this way. Better read on facts instead of making an uninformed opinion

Iran can not claim a proxy as a reason to ruin relationships. A proxy which attacked a government and a majority of peaceful people are suffering. That is like saying those who fund TTP would ruin relations over us attacking the TTP. You label the rebels as an army when they are a terrorist organisation. Stop making excuse as a nation, it is time we repair relationships with the GCC, Iran and Pakistan relationship needs to be separate and we are helping a sovereign nations government, not invading it. Iran threatening us because of our foreign policy, if Iran is that weak an ally better to know now rather then when we are struggling with other borders, being scared of others is the reason we are in this mess.

The thing I am trying to differentiate is that a proxy did not ask us for help, an ally did. That is a very huge difference which needs to be understood and appreciated. Syria, I never advocated because it is a troubled zone, and the Syrian Government is not asking for help. Declaring war on a nation is different from declaring war on rebels who are attacking a nation and its neighbours.

ok information on it? any links etc... a tour sounds like fun


Ruining our relationship with the GCC is one of the worst things that can happen to our people at the moment... I can not understand how your view is so short sighted. What you are saying is that we do not help an ally deal with a threat on its border by a rebel force even if troops can be spared and the troops are willing to go? is it a sect thing or something because there is no other reason that I can understand your view point

 

[SrNair]

Sr.Nair. This is the most hypocritical post I heard from you in a while. What about IPKF and Operation cactus then ? Forgetting your own history innocently/on purpose is a worse thing to do during taking a higher moral debates

You are wrong sir.We interfered in SL when they threatened our national security.And Maldives requested us for support.
In here Saudis are demanding for the help from Pakistan even if causes damage to their relation with Iran.
Noone demanded from us something like that .We only intereferd in there because it would have been a problem for our security.

 

[Bratva]

Because that situation was directly threatening Indian national security.

I said this many times in many threads, if Pak was sending its jet for striking ISIS, I praise them. They are threat to Pak national security, but in no way Yemen is threat to Pak.

You are wrong sir.We interfered in SL when they threatened our national security.And Maldives requested us for support.
In here Saudis are demanding for the help from Pakistan even if causes damage to their relation with Iran.
Noone demanded from us something like that .We only intereferd in there because it would have been a problem for our security.

Did Iraq or Syria asked for our help ? No, Houthis are threatning Saudia. Better read up on their past feud. Saudia asked for help. Just as Syria asked Iran for help. We have defense agreements in place.

 

[Darth Vader]

Pakistan likes to have hostile neighbors . India and Afghanistan weren't enough , Add Iran to that .

Majority of Iranians didn't have positive view about Pakistan after those suicide attacks and killing border guards in Sistan and now allying with our number 1 enemy that almost all Iranians from Seculars , religious and nationalists hate will only make the situation worse .

What Pakistan is going or not going to do in this puppets alliance doesn't matter , What matters is that Iranians are reaching to the point to believe that Pakistan will side with our enemies in any conflict in the future .

Same Goes For iran , Iran has always supported Pakistans 1 Enemy so dont cry about it
Who you chose in hour of Need 1 side iran who always support india , Pakistans biggest enemy
2 KSA who always supported Pakistan

 

[kaku1]

Did Iraq or Syria asked for our help ? No, Houthis are threatning Saudia. Better read up on their past feud. Saudia asked for help. Just as Syria asked Iran for help. We have defense agreements in place.

What are you saying?

So in a situation of national security of your own motherland, you ask Saudis? That we strike them or not. And if they say yes, then you go in?

 

[SrNair]

Sr.Nair. This is the most hypocritical post I heard from you in a while. What about IPKF and Operation cactus then ? Forgetting your own history innocently/on purpose is a worse thing to do during taking a higher moral debates



I petty your crticial thinking analysis. Really If you think this way. It's not your fault, it your biased mind which prevents you from thinking clearly

Well sir ,There are 2000 + Pakistanis is in Yemen .AFAIK Pakistan dont have any problem with Houthis or Yemen.
Saudi has most advanced military which is way more sophisitcated that PA .But still will ask help from you.
Your leaders knows that even a formal agreement with KSA union would antogonize Iran .But it seems they dont have any choice.

 

[IceCold]

Pakistani's should wake up and smell the coffee. Iran is the most arrogant nation in our part of the world. Being the only so called muslim who stood up against US has made them arrogant and they will belittle every other nation who don't agree with them.

They can hardly stand up to the US. Its the Mullah's propaganda that has made them arrogant like making those fake air craft carriers and than taking them out.

 

[friendly_troll96]

Pakistan likes to have hostile neighbors . India and Afghanistan weren't enough , Add Iran to that .

Majority of Iranians didn't have positive view about Pakistan after those suicide attacks and killing border guards in Sistan and now allying with our number 1 enemy that almost all Iranians from Seculars , religious and nationalists hate will only make the situation worse .

What Pakistan is going or not going to do in this puppets alliance doesn't matter , What matters is that Iranians are reaching to the point to believe that Pakistan will side with our enemies in any conflict in the future .

Just like not only has your country almost always sided with Pak's enemies but also gone extra lengths to destabilize her. Pak's siding with KSA is just a bs excuse, your policy toward her would remain unchanged (or change for worse) regardless.

 

[SrNair]

Did Iraq or Syria asked for our help ? No, Houthis are threatning Saudia. Better read up on their past feud. Saudia asked for help. Just as Syria asked Iran for help. We have defense agreements in place.

Then they will also send their military for helping you if there is a foreign attack against Pakistan in future .Right?