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If you didnt realized there are two poles on iranians issues,

one is India and China, who wants all sanctions off on Iran, and other is Arab world ( including Israel ), who want to destroy Iran.

But my point is, where is tilt? If the nuclear agreement goes through, and it seems it goes through, bravo Americans, Chinese and Indians ( which is all top oil importers of world ) find a new source, and India as a new strategic ally in Arabian peninsula.

In long term, who is winning strategically and tactically, ofcourse its Iranian ( because all the big powers are behind him).

India will side with US because US will ensure India continues to meet its energy needs. As for Iran any deal will just be temporary as Obama is now a lame duck and within 1 year a new President being most likely Republican will toss it into the trash.
 
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Dont we have some ships close by anyways cuz of the anti piracy operations of the coast of Somalia? I thought our frigates were involved in that operation.
 
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I believe you are or going to be , You're directly taking part in an illegal invasion against Iran's ally in region and this is enough to bring you in this conflict .

What you believe is of no significance because that is your personal opinion not state policy specially not of Pakistan. We have said it again and again that we are not going to part of this conflict and we intend to keep it that way unless something very drastically changes like Iran attacking SA directly (which is far fetched). So I will advise Iranian brothers to tread carefully. Pakistan or Pakistanis are not looking to pick up a fight with Iran but having said so we too have our own interests to look at as well.
 
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Pakistan likes to have hostile neighbors . India and Afghanistan weren't enough , Add Iran to that .

Majority of Iranians didn't have positive view about Pakistan after those suicide attacks and killing border guards in Sistan and now allying with our number 1 enemy that almost all Iranians from Seculars , religious and nationalists hate will only make the situation worse .

What Pakistan is going or not going to do in this puppets alliance doesn't matter , What matters is that Iranians are reaching to the point to believe that Pakistan will side with our enemies in any conflict in the future .

Pakistanis had the most favorable views of Iran and Indians had one of the most negative views of Iran just 2 years ago.
After Iran's alliance with India and allowing Indians to roam at Pakistan border in the cover of Chah Bahar port, do you still expect Pakistan to trust Iran? Two years ago I've made my point here at PDF that if Iran allows India(the number one enemy of Pakistan) to become active in Pakistan's border areas, don't expect Pakistan to sit quiet.

How can you even think that you can demand everything sweet while delivering poison to your best friend? It was Iran who went far ahead with India when Pakistan had the most favorable views of Iran and when Pakistan was standing for Iran internationally while India was opposing you guys.
 
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Pakistanis had the most favorable views of Iran and Indians had one of the most negative views of Iran just 2 years ago.
After Iran's alliance with India and allowing Indians to roam at Pakistan border in the cover of Chah Bahar port, do you still expect Pakistan to trust Iran? Two years ago I've made my point here at PDF that if Iran allows India(the number one enemy of Pakistan) to become active in Pakistan's border areas, don't expect Pakistan to sit quiet.

How can you even think that you can demand everything sweet while delivering poison to your best friend? It was Iran who went far ahead with India when Pakistan had the most favorable views of Iran and when Pakistan was standing for Iran internationally while India was opposing you guys.
Maybe, I am having some short term memory loss.

When we had negative views about Iran?
 
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Pakistan likes to have hostile neighbors . India and Afghanistan weren't enough , Add Iran to that .

Majority of Iranians didn't have positive view about Pakistan after those suicide attacks and killing border guards in Sistan and now allying with our number 1 enemy that almost all Iranians from Seculars , religious and nationalists hate will only make the situation worse .

What Pakistan is going or not going to do in this puppets alliance doesn't matter , What matters is that Iranians are reaching to the point to believe that Pakistan will side with our enemies in any conflict in the future .

Are iranians such egoistic ignorant, suffering from paranoia, short-sightedness. Let me just start by saying whoever share your believes are the moron of first degree. Apologies for being blunt. Did Pakistan took side of Saudia and GCC or allies on Syria or in Iraq ? Did Pakistan issued such idiotic,hollow,laughable,out of place threats to Iranian when they start supporting Assad the butcher and so called militias in Iraq ?

Iranians are such cry babies, they will not appreciate anything. They poke others and then they cry wolf and become cry babies

Let me ask you in simple and blunt manner. WTF are you blabbering upon ? What IRAN or you any of the ignorant Farsi who shares your views regarding Pakistan has got to do with our help to Saudia in yemen btw ? I mean You illegally arm and help terrorists in Yemen and one someone tries to clear the mess, you began to threaten those countries to not side with those who are clearing terrorists because they are our proxy ? What kind of retard logic is that ? You have no right to be in yemen. You don't share any borders with them. You don't have strategic alliance with them like you have with Syria. So what's with all the burning in your behind ?

No-one is your enemy.With such haughtiness and egoism, you are enemy of your own. Instead of condemning Iran behaviour in interfering yemen, You are threatening all those countries who are trying to end terrorism menace in Yemen?

I mean there is a limit to hypocrisy. Did Pakistan object Iran helping Syria murderers ? No because there are defense agreements b/w Syria and Iran to protect syria in case of any war or attack. Similar agreement exist b/w Pakistan and Saudia. Why is Syrian -Iranian alliance is kosher but Pakistan-Saudia alliance in Yemen gives burn to every ignorant Irani ?

If Iranians can't understand with meager minds that You have no say in Yemen and what pakistan does with Saudia in yemen., then shove that hostile neighbor rants up there where sun doesn't shine. We don't care. You are already a hostile neighbor.


In times of need, Pakistan voted in favour for you in UN. We help you clean up the Jundullah mess. Despite that, If ignorant Irani's have short-term memories where they forgot Pakistani favours and forgot how India back-stabbed you. Then I say, by all means, You should suck up to India because you deserve each other.
 
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Are iranians such egoistic ignorant, suffering from paranoia, short-sightedness. Let me just start by saying whoever share your believes are the moron of first degree. Apologies for being blunt. Did Pakistan took side of Saudia and GCC or allies on Syria or in Iraq ? Did Pakistan issued such idiotic,hollow,laughable,out of place threats to Iranian when they start supporting Assad the butcher and so called militias in Iraq ?

Iranians are such cry babies, they will not appreciate anything. They poke others and then they cry wolf and become cry babies

Let me ask you in simple and blunt manner. WTF are you blabbering upon ? What IRAN or you any of the ignorant Farsi who shares your views regarding Pakistan has got to do without help to Saudia in yemen btw ? I mean You illegally arm and help terrorists in Yemen and one someone tries to clear the mess, you began to threaten those countries to not side with those who are clearing terrorists because they are our proxy ? What kind of retard logic is that ? You have no right to be in yemen. You don't share any borders with them. You don't have strategic alliance with them like you have with Syria. So what's with all the burning in your behind ?

No-one is your enemy.With such haughtiness and egoism, you are enemy of your own. Instead of condemning Iran behaviour in interfering yemen, You are threatening all those countries who are trying to end terrorism menace in Yemen?

I mean there is a limit to hypocrisy. Did Pakistan object Iran helping Syria murderers ? No because there are defense agreements b/w Syria and Iran to protect syria in case of any war or attack. Similar agreement exist b/w Pakistan and Saudia. Why is Syrian -Iranian alliance is kosher but Pakistan-Saudia alliance in Yemen gives burn to every ignorant Irani ?

If Iranians can't understand with meager minds that You have no say in Yemen and what pakistan does with Saudia in yemen., then shove that hostile neighbor rants up there where sun doesn't shine. We don't care. You are already a hostile neighbor.


In times of need, Pakistan voted in favour for you in UN. We help you clean up the Jundullah mess. Despite that, If ignorant Irani's have short-term memories where they forgot Pakistani favours and forgot how India back-stabbed you. Then I say, by all means, You should suck up to India because you deserve each other.

It is sad to see a nation with such sophisticated history, making such stupid remarks. You know, i am for once in favor of keeping sanctions on them. Imagine what a pain in the butt they are going to be for Pakistan. Pakistan should quickly clean up the sectarian mess in the meantime.
 
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I believe you are or going to be , You're directly taking part in an illegal invasion against Iran's ally in region and this is enough to bring you in this conflict .

Lets not bring Border guards issue here . hundreds of border guards and citizens have been killed in Sistan with the hands of terrorists who have used hit and run to Pakistan strategy for years . I'm sure you haven't lost much compared to Iran .



Iranian founded !?

Last month, Jash Ul adl/jundullah chief took a bus ride from Taftan, crossed Iranian border. Caught in Pakistan. If this is the state of your Intelligence and security setup where they can't identify and apprehend a most wanted terrorist roaming freely in taftan. Why do you blame others for failures of your own? Instead of blaming others, what have you done to uproot Riggi terrorists hiding in the mountains of Sistan balochistan, in taftan, in border areas of Iran ?
 
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Maybe, I am having some short term memory loss.

When we had negative views about Iran?

2014 ratings

Iran Unpopular around the World
Attitudes toward Iran are mostly negative worldwide. In 29 of 40 countries, a majority or plurality say they have an unfavorable opinion of the Islamic Republic. The only nations in which at least half express a favorable view are Bangladesh (63%), Pakistan (63%) and Indonesia (51%).

2013

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Pakistan has LEAST Unfavorable and HIGHEST favorable views still in 2014 but favorable figures significantly went down. On the other hand after all what Iran did for India, still more people have unfavorable views of Iran than favorable. I'll try finding 2 year old pics too.
 
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If Pakistan gets overly involved militarily, it will be the fault of an incompetent and spineless government, no-one in Pakistan wants us to be involved in yet another crazy and inconclusive conflict in the ME.

Enough of this apologetic posts. If Pakistan gets involved, it's because of Saudi help they've been extending to us since our nuclear program days. Do you want to see Pakistan relations with GCC gets frosty if GCC sense Pakistan neutrality == Us favouring Iran ?
 
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2014 ratings



2013

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Pakistan has LEAST Unfavorable and HIGHEST favorable views still in 2014 but favorable figures significantly went down. On the other hand after all what Iran did for India, still more people have unfavorable views of Iran than favorable. I'll try finding 2 year old pics too.

Atleast we are on second number, and more importantly politically India Iran is ally.
 
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Assad is not a good leader for sure but he has supporters , more than half of his army are Syrian sunnis and add millions of Shias , Alewites , Christians and Druze people to them and this is why Assad hasn't fallen after 4 years against hundreds of thousands of rebels from more than 100 different countries .



I agree with you to some extend .

Do you believe the audience of PDF are naives ? Do you take us for some blondes ? If assad has such support then why Iran, Shias from Iraq, Iran,Afghanistan and Hezbollah with the blessing of Iran are fighting against in syria ? I say remove all the Iranian led support to Assad. Let's see how much your claim stands Assad is not fallen because of the support of millions of his syrian supporters shall we ?

Oh, next time, do a little introspection of what were the situation of Syria before Iran decided to jump in with it's proxies
 
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Do you believe the audience of PDF are naives ? Do you take us for some blondes ? If assad has such support then why Iran, Shias from Iraq, Iran,Afghanistan and Hezbollah with the blessing of Iran are fighting against in syria ? I say remove all the Iranian led support to Assad. Let's see how much your claim stands Assad is not fallen because of the support of millions of his syrian supporters shall we ?

Oh, next time, do a little introspection of what were the situation of Syria before Iran decided to jump in with it's proxies

i fail to understand, what is making iran making such stupid decisions, what have made them think, that success(which is futile) in syria against isis, will make them influence others in the region too, setting eye on iraq, syria and jordan(according to iranian general) is one thing, but in arab's backyard, they must be smoking something too hard to handle, don't they remember what happened in bahrain?

they should first sort their economy, i wonder they haven't yet signed a deal with west, but have started rolling...... why they hell do they want to make the whole world their enemy.
 
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Atleast we are on second number, and more importantly politically India Iran is ally.

KEY POINTS
India’s September 24 vote in the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) supporting the resolution moved by Britain, France and Germany (EU-3) on Iran’s nuclear programme.

Pakistan and China of course have been for many years involved in helping Iran with both its nuclear and missile programmes.

Iran conceded to the agency that it had received “crucial help from Pakistan.” Iran told IAEA inspectors once the investigation began that it received design plans for centrifuges in 1987 from Pakistan, and the transfer of technology appears to have continued for several years.

As for China, it had through the 1980s and 1990s not only “helped Iran move towards becoming self-sufficient in production of ballistic missiles,” but had also supplied it materials for its nuclear programme.

China and Pakistan therefore have invested in their relations with Tehran and have high stakes in it.

A China-Pakistan-Iran nexus however is not in India’s interest and it would have to take appropriate steps to neutralise it.

India and the Iranian Nuclear Standoff | Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses

US, India united against Iran's nuclear programme: US envoy | Zee News

India voted twice against Iran in the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA),

http://humanities.tau.ac.il/iranian/en/previous-reviews/10-iran-pulse-en/115-12
 
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