Two F-22P heading to Yemen today

[haviZsultan]

Actually, there ARE shia armed groups in Pakistan. They started out as proxies for Iran against it's proxy war with KSA after the Iranian revolution. Most of the ones that exist today are pro-government, and help fight against the Taliban.

The better question would be have the shia armed groups ever turned their weapons on sunnis or gone on sunni-killing spree or rampage? In this we sunnis seem to take the lead. Its just a general observation. Shias rarely or never take up arms against innocent sunni civilians in Pakistan. There is a sipah e muhammed and tehreek e jafria but they have only engaged in killing members of the lashkar e jhangvi or sipah e sahaba which if you ask me... are better off dead. Personally I think these disgruntled and disenfranchised shia youth should be given jobs in the police to better hunt down TTP proxy lashkar e jhangvi.

Who, the PPP? I think everyone, including hardcore pro-Iran shia parties would agree to sending troops to protect ksa's borders.

I do not think so. And we need to be mindful of shia interests too as we have the highest shia population than any other country, including Iran. Also many sunnis too are against aligning with saudi in Yemen. I am one. Also check the poll on express tribune. 80% respondents were against us going for war in Yemen.

 

[Mrc]

Ok can some one eloborate can those C 803 be used omfor land attack as well or only as antiship? And whts actual range 180 or 300 km?

 

[SBD-3]

Obvioysly,they helped us in all our wars, so its only fair that we also help them if their country is attacked.
You may be a Shia and that is fine,but look beyond your sectarian bias. Iran is not our friend,they are with India.And Houthi of yemen may be your shia brothers but they too are not our allies and we do not have defense cooperation contracts with them as we have with saudia. This is called international politics,you help your allies to get their help later.
Take off your sectatian glasses and you may see straight.

Here is one of the famous mouthpiece aka Amin Shaheedi giving statements on Iranian nuclear Program
Iran to continue peaceful nuclear program: cleric | The Iran Project

 

[Bratva]

Is it Pakistan's interest to support the Saudis? Yes, fine, but is it wise to overstep and become too directly involved in a conflict you and I both know will spread before it ends, the combatants will grow uglier, and what is most likely to be another inconclusive war where both parties are fighting forces they can't understand.

Support them, fine, don't go in too stupidly, history is a witness to what these sort of wars are. And like it or not Iran is a neighbour, who we need to be at least neutral with if not more.



Trust a Muslim to destroy the corner stone belief of their religion. We do it better than anyone else.

Pakistan won't get involved in yemen. Have you seen Pak-Saudi forces hold training exercises last week in Saudia ? It is 91 all over again where Pakistan would place troops in saudi yemen border areas to deter hautis. This is most Pakistan would do a

And about Iran being a neutral neighbor below two posts make sense

Obvioysly,they helped us in all our wars, so its only fair that we also help them if their country is attacked.
You may be a Shia and that is fine,but look beyond your sectarian bias. Iran is not our friend,they are with India.And Houthi of yemen may be your shia brothers but they too are not our allies and we do not have defense cooperation contracts with them as we have with saudia. This is called international politics,you help your allies to get their help later.
Take off your sectatian glasses and you may see straight.

Well Iran is not our ally. They are with India. Both Iran and India are opening chah Bahar port to counter our Gwadar port and from there India will open trade with Afghanistan and with that Indian influence on Afghanistan.
That way Pakistan will be squeezed between enmies and will need help,most probably from Saudia.
so now in their time of need we will help them,so that when Iran-India-Afghanistan alliance start their tricks against us we have some country to rely upon.
This is called international politics.

 

[SBD-3]

Who, the PPP? I think everyone, including hardcore pro-Iran shia parties would agree to sending troops to protect ksa's borders.

And thats what exactly being done by the Army. Rest hauties seems to be on their own now and we may not see a deployment given the developments going on.

 

[American Pakistani]

Hi again ,

Any reliable source for Iran's role against Pakistan ?

First of all let me clarify you that I don't hate Iran or Iranians and my own extended family consist of Shias and Sunnis.

Secondly Iran allowing Pakistan's enemy next to Gwadar is more than a proof.

 

[That Guy]

I do not think so. And we need to be mindful of shia interests too as we have the highest shia population than any other country, including Iran. Also many sunnis too are against aligning with saudi in Yemen. I am one. Also check the poll on express tribune. 80% respondents were against us going for war in Yemen.

Sending troops to the border isn't the same as going into Yemen. A majority are against any sort of involvement in Yemen, but sending troops for border patrol, and guard duty is a politically safe bet. We can show the Saudis that we're willing to protect them, and show the Iranians that we don't want to get involved with Yemen.

it was in the news too but they are asking to act as a negotiator and send military just to protect KSA and no fighting in yemen

I don't think we should even be acting as negotiators. It is simply not Pakistan's problem. The only location in KSA that Pakistan should protect are Mecca and Medina, everywhere else is irrelevant.

 

[waz]

They are heading to evacuate people.

 

[Menace2Society]

I don't think we should even be acting as negotiators. It is simply not Pakistan's problem. The only location in KSA that Pakistan should protect are Mecca and Medina, everywhere else is irrelevant.

Pakistan has 9 defence treaties with KSA. It is not just about 2 cities. Diplomatic relations which extend to more than half a century.

Where do you think Pakistan will get emergency oil supply from in case of war? Saudi in return ensures Pakistan will always have fuel for their wars.

How can you ignore all of that? Pakistan has a duty to protect KSA interests in war time.

If Iran want Pakistan not to favor KSA then make friendly relations and Pakistan being the loyal ally will always consider Iranian interests too.

More than half the world are allied or friendly with KSA and Iranians only have problems with Pakistan even when no PA boots on ground in Yemen?

 

[That Guy]

Pakistan has 9 defence treaties with KSA. It is not just about 2 cities. Diplomatic relations which extend to more than half a century.

Where do you think Pakistan will get emergency oil supply from in case of war? Saudi in return ensures Pakistan will always have fuel for their wars.

How can you ignore all of that? Pakistan has a duty to protect KSA interests in war time.

If Iran want Pakistan not to favor KSA then make friendly relations and Pakistan being the loyal ally will always consider Iranian interests too.

More than half the world are allied or friendly with KSA and Iranians only have problems with Pakistan even when no PA boots on ground in Yemen?

I'm not ignoring all this, my comment was based more on emotion than fact, as I feel that Pakistan simply shouldn't get involved out of principle.

If we take geopolitical realities on the ground, than I completely agree with what you've said, in fact I would even take it one step further and say Pakistan has no real choice in the matter.

 

[Major Shaitan Singh]

Crew PIA ready to welcome returning Pakistani s from Yemen at khi Airport

 

[black-hawk_101]

I am sure that F-22Ps which are well equipped with 8 Surface to Surface Missiles can easily shoot these Missiles towards Yemen well inside. So which means in short that PN can take down 16 targets easily. More over, PN can deploy P-3Cs and Barquets with older Harpoon and Exocet Missiles along with some older Chinese ones too. And May be older and newer Torpedoes too.

 

[-SINAN-]

Pakistan likes to have hostile neighbors . India and Afghanistan weren't enough , Add Iran to that .

Majority of Iranians didn't have positive view about Pakistan after those suicide attacks and killing border guards in Sistan and now allying with our number 1 enemy that almost all Iranians from Seculars , religious and nationalists hate will only make the situation worse .

What Pakistan is going or not going to do in this puppets alliance doesn't matter , What matters is that Iranians are reaching to the point to believe that Pakistan will side with our enemies in any conflict in the future .

Who gives a fvck if you add Pakistan to your shıt list or not....you are against the whole world, a rogue state. If you start aggression against PAK, you will find Turkey standing against you...

So, skip the empty talk please.

 

[GeHAC]

PLAN 054A frigate also get there to evacuate people.

 

[Max]

Who gives a fvck if you add Pakistan to your shıt list or not....you are against the whole world, a rogue state. If you start aggression against PAK, you will find Turkey standing against you...

So, skip the empty talk please.

Iranians come to lecture us as we owe them our lives ... their mullah never ask even a single time from us in a single matter.. so why we should care what they think... they are friends of India did they asked us before having relationship with India... when our forces on LOC were neck to neck in 2002 stand off, their president went their to their republic day military parade as chief guest.. did they ask us then? in Afghanistan they supported northern alliance along with India and Russia... did they asked us? then why on earth they expect from us that we will take permission from Tehran weather we should support Saudis or not.... which has helped us in every difficulty, when Us imposed sanctions against us. Saudi provide us oil and money... when we were making nukes, Saudi helped us... now they need our political support and just show of military support... why dont we do this for them.???.. tomorrow if their crazy leaders start confrontation with Turkey... they will whine same as they are whining now that Pakistan is working against Iran and blah blah... so i am in support of getting rid of Mullahs and stay away from them... let them make more enemies and destroy themselves meanwhile...