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You must face with the fact.

Yes the fact.....Yes AKP is responsable this is fact.
But here another fact : AKP is still the best fitting to fight against PKK.

You're say "while AKP is in charge we cannot" so who must be in charge ? CHP who cry because HDP's deputy are arrested ? Or MHP which has zero support with the Kurds ? Which can do more against the PKK ?

Of course you can split AKP govt for every attack, but dont overdose it....in the last page only you have 3 hating post against AKP saying that with AKP nothing can be done.....strangely this is what Demirtas say about AKP/Erodgan ; they are the only guilty, without them we can have peace....yeah right.
 
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People should stop blaming the victims of terror attacks and focus on paying their respects to the victims while condemning such acts. terror attacks can happen anywhere.

Even though I agree that authorities need to seriously review their intelligence capabilities since terror attacks are happening too frequently in Turkey. There seems to be some serious loopholes and failures on the part of intelligence services .

Anyway my condolences to the victims , I can imagine he hard it must be for them. RIP
 
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@Orez

Stop bringing the others up again and again. They are not the reason of current situation. If you sht in everything you are responsible to clean it up so stop nagging...

Yeah we are depended on a gov. which has brought this sht to us. isn't that ironic? And expecting a solution from 'em? how naive or fool are you?

I said that very clear if you are clever enough, you must understand it. Akp is guilty on this case so STFU and deal with it...

As being a citizen of this fcking country I have right to criticize it as long, much as I wish. I said that your worthless life maybe doesn't matter but ours matter.
 
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my condolences as well.

Believe it or nor...Istanbul is an important mediterranean city and in this role is like our Roma or Barcelona or Athens. In recent times so much happened there. Does the turkish government have any intelligence insight who this terror groups are? How could it happen that such prime targets like a football stadium is not that much protected in this times?
 
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my condolences as well.

Believe it or nor...Istanbul is an important mediterranean city and in this role is like our Roma or Barcelona or Athens. In recent times so much happened there. Does the turkish government have any intelligence insight who this terror groups are? How could it happen that such prime targets like a football stadium is not that much protected in this times?
It does not matter where a terror attack happens.

Anyways, in this video you can see police officers approaching the suicide bomber, they might have gotten intelligence beforehand but what i cant explain is why they didnt stop him from distance.

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It does not matter where a terror attack happens.

Anyways, in this video you can see police officers approaching the suicide bomber, they might have gotten intelligence beforehand but what i cant explain is why they didnt stop him from distance.



This looks incompetent. I´m sorry for the victims and those who did their service here but look it appears to me that Turkey does not have much acess into those groups? For me it looks like those officers did not know that he wears a bomb? How many attacks happened in Istanbul this year?

Turkey needs to adress this. Its important to stop those terrorists before the do the attack. Thats hard and not always possible but it must be done. You need connections within the groups.
 
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MIT is a usless organization i don'nt even know why it exist, its a waste of taxi payers money, they can catch someone who inslut erdogan in Twitter, but they can't catch a terrorist. how many bombs have to go off before hakan fidan resigns..
I believe, intelligence agencies should focus on internal & external threats instead of arresting people doing comments on twitter and facebook. Erdogan should Review his policies . It is not easy to demolish guerrilla fighters because they spread everywhere , they are not at one place & they attacks in little groups.. Country like Sri Lanka took 25 years to finish guerrilla fighters. Pakistan is front line state on war against terrorism, we are fighting them from 15 years. We lost 50,000 civilians and thousands soldiers in this war.
Turkey is in big trouble, but Turkish are brave people. I wish , someone take out turkey from this mess. Can AKP do this???? Time will tell...
 
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Yes the fact.....Yes AKP is responsable this is fact.
But here another fact : AKP is still the best fitting to fight against PKK.

You're say "while AKP is in charge we cannot" so who must be in charge ? CHP who cry because HDP's deputy are arrested ? Or MHP which has zero support with the Kurds ? Which can do more against the PKK ?

Of course you can split AKP govt for every attack, but dont overdose it....in the last page only you have 3 hating post against AKP saying that with AKP nothing can be done.....strangely this is what Demirtas say about AKP/Erodgan ; they are the only guilty, without them we can have peace....yeah right.
In the years 2000/2001 the PKK was finished,why did the AKP go for ''acilim'' policy?
What was the reason?
Who made them strong again?
How did they stash all these weapons with what they are attacking us?
In every big city the PKK has weapons depots,safe houses,hit teams,bomb factories etc,how did this all happen?
Cleaning the mess(if ever) you caused and expecting to be called a hero?
Demirtas you say,im sure the government will release him soon with some dumb excuse,then what are you going to say,they did it for the country?
Everyone against the AKP is a traitor in the eyes of many AKP supporters,why,cant handle the truth?
You caused it,you deal with it,permanently,not a couple of dead PKK militants,finish it so that we can say:Helal olsun!.
 
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So it is established the perpetrators are AKP. Best wishes to Turks from Pakistan. We have a similar problem in Balochistan. For Pakistan the solution is thought to be to give the Baloch equal rights and promote their language, culture and way of life. Also give more control of their provinces resources to them. Despite the problems there is no justification for the bomb blast and indiscriminate killings the AKP and other Kurdish militant groups participate in. Violence is never a solution for any cause and whenever a group or organization starts killing fellow citizens and violence in the name of their goals their cause is lost and they become indistinguishable from those who are evil.

I wish the best to my Turk brothers as Pakistan has constantly been suffering from militancy.
 
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So it is established the perpetrators are AKP. Best wishes to Turks from Pakistan. We have a similar problem in Balochistan. For Pakistan the solution is thought to be to give the Baloch equal rights and promote their language, culture and way of life. Also give more control of their provinces resources to them. Despite the problems there is no justification for the bomb blast and indiscriminate killings the AKP and other Kurdish militant groups participate in. Violence is never a solution for any cause and whenever a group or organization starts killing fellow citizens and violence in the name of their goals their cause is lost and they become indistinguishable from those who are evil.

I wish the best to my Turk brothers as Pakistan has constantly been suffering from militancy.
Its the PKK,not the AKP(political party in charge).
 
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In the years 2000/2001 the PKK was finished,why did the AKP go for ''acilim'' policy?
What was the reason?
Who made them strong again?
How did they stash all these weapons with what they are attacking us?
In every big city the PKK has weapons depot,safe houses,hit teams,bomb factories etc,how did this all happen?
Cleaning the mess(if ever) you caused and expecting to be called a hero?
Demirtas you say,im sure the government will release him soon with some dumb excuse,then what are you going to say,they did it for the country?
Everyone against the AKP is a traitor in the eyes of many AKP supporters,why,cant handle the truth?
You caused it,you deal with it,permanently,not a couple of dead PKK militants,finish it so that we can say:Helal olsun!.

PKK is certainly not finished in 2001 and acilim policy don't begin before 2009.
The true is, we cannot defeat PKK. Everybody know it, tell me when a insurection group was defeat in the world ? Never, even the US with their best technologie in the world didn't manage to defeat the taliban.

Complain all you want....but we have only 3 choice :
-peace with PKK
-continue this situation
-make a genocide against the Kurds.

Today fighing PKK is necessary because we must not let them create a country in Syria, but after we destroy their dream in Syria....sooner or latter we must return to negociate (certainly after 10 or 20 years).

Anyways this is not the topic, qnd RIP to the victime.
 
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PKK is certainly not finished in 2001 and acilim policy don't begin before 2009.
The true is, we cannot defeat PKK. Everybody know it, tell me when a insurection group was defeat in the world ? Never, even the US with their best technologie in the world didn't manage to defeat the taliban.

Complain all you want....but we have only 3 choice :
-peace with PKK
-continue this situation
-make a genocide against the Kurds.

Today fighing PKK is necessary because we must not let them create a country in Syria, but after we destroy their dream in Syria....sooner or latter we must return to negociate (certainly after 10 or 20 years).

Anyways this is not the topic, qnd RIP to the victime.

So you're saying we should make peace with PKK again? Are you out of your mind?

By doing so you will give them legitimation and then they'll never stop armed conflict.

Giving US-Taliban example doesn't make sense because the Taliban isn't on US soil but PKK is in Turkish soil.

PKK was mostly finished during 1999-2001, they weren't even able to launch any attacks anymore.

During 2000-2001 there were also no casualties because of terror attacks.

Gotta love these Turks living in Europe and saying what's best for us.
 
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talking akpean is like talking to a wall, they like to play the victim card. and blame everyone but themselves..
 
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