Twitter Suspends Pakistan Defence Forum Without any Warning - Again

[VCheng]

If this is the case why the heck twitter did not suspend the account right after it was created?
Why suspension after speaking on Kashmir issue?

The suspension is for violating rules, not for speaking on Kashmir. Is that too hard to understand?

 

[LASER1]

If this is the case why the heck twitter did not suspend the account right after it was created?
Why suspension after speaking on Kashmir issue?

Mass reporting.

 

[padamchen]

If you attempt to evade a permanent suspension by creating new accounts, we will suspend your new accounts.

The term "suspension" implies something of a temporary nature.

To prefix "permanent" to that is contradictory.

Someone not very good in English framed that for sure.

Cheers, Doc

 

[LASER1]

The suspension is for violating rules, not for speaking on Kashmir. Is that too hard to understand?

She was asking why now. Why not the moment it was created.

The term "suspension" implies something of a temporary nature.

To prefix "permanent" to that is contradictory.

Someone not very good in English framed that for sure.

Cheers, Doc

I guess permanent suspension is romanticizing the word ban. Because it may look like censorship.

 

[Moonlight]

Mass reporting.

There you go. Mostly reported by Indians? Right.

That again proves my point.

Have a nice one

 

[VCheng]

She was asking why now. Why not the moment it was created.

That is for Twitter to answer, but my guess is that the volume of the workload in moderation of millions of users may have something to do with it.

 

[padamchen]

I guess permanent suspension is romanticizing the word ban. Because it may look like censorship.

Correct.

Some American not very good at English framed that.

Cheers, Doc

 

[VCheng]

The term "suspension" implies something of a temporary nature.

To prefix "permanent" to that is contradictory.

Someone not very good in English framed that for sure.

Cheers, Doc

Accounts are suspended. Users are banned. PDF was not banned, its account was suspended for violating rules. The correct response would have been to work to lift the suspension, but it is water under the bridge, past the bend in the river and out to sea by now with the second attempted evasion.

 

[LASER1]

There you go. Mostly reported by Indians? Right.

That again proves my point.

Have a nice one

Yeah, I just assumed it. It may have come to light recently that defence.pk created another handle to evade the previous suspension.

The only wrong done was violating twitter policy, instead, PDF could've tried different ways to gain back the verified account rather than creating another one and doing what it's been doing.

 

[padamchen]

@waz

If as you guys claim, PDF has not dotted line in to the state, then why limit Twitter membership only to the admins here under your banner.

Why cant I tweet under the PDF banner?

Of course my views on Kashmir will be diametrically opposing yours. But so what? You allow it on the forum.

So why not in the tweetering world?

I hope you get what I'm really gunning for ....

Cheers, Doc

Accounts are suspended. Users are banned. PDF was not banned, its account was suspended for violating rules. The correct response would have been to work to lift the suspension, but it is water under the bridge, past the bend in the river and out to sea by now with the second attempted evasion.

Suppose I go online on Twitter with Padamchen_PDF will I get banned :

1) On Twitter

2) On PDF ?

Cheers, Doc

 

[VCheng]

Suppose I go online on Twitter with Padamchen_PDF will I get banned :

1) On Twitter

2) On PDF ?

Cheers, Doc

Probably not, since such a handle would likely comply with Twitter rules. I cannot say anything about what PDF would do.

 

[padamchen]

Probably not, since such a handle would likely comply with Twitter rules. I cannot say anything about what PDF would do.

Its settled then.

I can probably add a "from" so that admins here do not get upset that I'm implying representation.

Cheers, Doc

 

[CriticalThought]

Horus, I entirely understand your situation. First and foremost I want to take this opportunity to thank PDF for giving us all a platform to express our thoughts. The problem you face is a problem many of us face. It's easy to burn tyres, call for jihad or run amok in Lahore in protest of wrongs done us Pakistan or Muslims.

But here is the reality. We live in a global community. It matters nought what is wrong, what is fair or what is justice. What matters is the influence you acquire or goodwill you secure across thre globe. This can be achieved in a myriad of ways but I economic leverage is amongst the top of the list along with cultivating relations with significant global entities. To do so cannot be done by burning tyres on Faizabad Chowk.

Increasingly India'ds economic clout is gaining upper hand. In addition Pakistan's stock value has hit rock bottom. One thing I would suggest PDF to do. Please never tie your flag on causes that are hopeless. Stay out of Palestine, Rohingya or Uighur politics. These are hot potatoes and you will end up wasting your limited goodwill. Reserve that for specific Pakistani orientated issues. I was never fan of Musharaf but I think he got one thing right "Pakistan First".

As regards the issue you have I would suggest you contact Pakistan government to apply pressure on Twitter. In addition ask all PDF members to sign up for a protest. If indeed there are issues because the Twitters administrative loop the Indian'ds have managed infest themselves [which is very probable] then you need to push for change on that front.

The problem your going to find is the moment you say 'Pakistan' in any situation you go on the backfoot. The benefit of doubt that migt be given goes out of the window. Suddenly you find yourself flying into the wind. In my experiance only Turks and to some degree Chinese cut some positive slack when you self youself as 'Pakistani'.

Please keep us posted.

I have always been the one to say that the Palestinian cause is a lost one and it's not our problem either.

Thats why it is called the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.


Don't forget India's soft power of bollywood is helping them as well.


I agree with you, to hell with the Rohingya, Uighur, and Palestinian issues. Those are not our problems.

The most powerful global forces today are USA, Europe and China. This is the reality. And Pakistan is a fragile country with a weak economy which could be easily snuffed as we have seen with recent desperate financial situation. In this hostile environment Pakistani's have to navigate very, very cautiously. This means following the path of least resistence. Which means as much as you can fly with the headwind and only go against it when it becomes absolutely vital to core Pakistani interests.

We must keep in mind big business in USA and that includes the media is dominated by Jews. Many of the large US corporations are owned by Jews. So if you spit in their face over Israel in some suicidal effort to clam up with Palestinians, croak on about Uighur Muslims, bitch about Europeans the net result is your going to find yourself right at the bottom and isolated. This is exactly what Pakistan has done as a nation. We just made up enemies when there was never any need for it.

The Indian's have done opposite of this. They have cultivated relations with evderybody. This means in any India/Pak tiff we always get the shafting as evreybody bends backwards to accomodate India.Pakistan has made itself a public relations manager's nightmare.

Ps. I have even on PDF seen members provoking the Chinese over Uighurs. It's like do we want to fcuk up one of the few countries that are pro Pakistan over the Uighurs. And the Chinese are very reactive to this Uighur issue. Or start giving Turks lessons on Islam when we know majority of them are very secular. That again annoys them.

The Indians also take pride in letting their mothers, daughters, wives, sisters run around stark naked. They also drink alcohol. So how about you stop calling yourself Pakistani and start copying non-Muslims completely. Libturds like yourself are worse than dogs and swines.

If today Pakistan walks away from the humanitarian crises faced by Palestinians, Uighurs, and Rohingyas, then there WILL come a time when we will be in crisis and no one will give a damn about us either. This is the law of nature, this is the compulsory retribution built into the fabric of existence itself.

And that is why i like Musharaf.
You(the forum) put religion before your country,a known fact,this never works and especially not in poor countries.
The only way forward for your country is your national identity,if you dont do that,you'll end up like the many failed states.
You fight for Muslims but when did or do Muslims fight for you?
Just ask people of these many Muslim countries you defend what they think of you when you tell them where you come from.
''I am a Muslim from Pakistan''.
Who cares for you if your identity is one of the 1,6 billion?
If i answer,''im a Turk'' they know exactly who i am.
See the difference?
Make religion personal and national identity a priority if you want to survive as a nation.
Nobody can fvck with you if you do that,no twitter,facebook,India or any others
In short,you know what to do,its all up to you Pakistanis.

Islam runs through this nation like blood runs in veins. You cannot dissociate Pakistan and Islam. And Insha Allah, we shall remain a living proof that you can survive very well in this world while upholding Islam in its entirety. May Allah Help us towards this aim. Aameen.

 

[Kompromat]

Yeah, I just assumed it. It may have come to light recently that defence.pk created another handle to evade the previous suspension.

The only wrong done was violating twitter policy, instead, PDF could've tried different ways to gain back the verified account rather than creating another one and doing what it's been doing.

Like what?

We tried everything bro. Even talked to twitter India.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Libturds like yourself are worse than dogs and swines.

You know I can fling filth as much as you can but clearly your another waste of space.

If today Pakistan walks away from the humanitarian crises faced by Palestinians, Uighurs, and Rohingyas, then there WILL come a time when we will be in crisis and no one will give a damn about us either. This is the law of nature, this is the compulsory retribution built into the fabric of existence itself.

Who does give a damn about us may I ask? Certainly not Palestinians, Uighurs or Rohingyas. Ask the Chinese if you think they are going to be tickled by you bringing up the Uighur issue? If PM IK mentioned the Uighurs on his trip to China I can bet you that would be the last invite he ever would get from the Chinese.

This is the law of nature, this is the compulsory retribution built into the fabric of existence itself.

No. the law of nature is simple. People jump from the sinking ship and take refuge in another boat. Of course not all can. But me and you did. I ended up in UK and your in Australia. Thus we can now talk big.

The reality of a bankrupt economy is only for those left in the ship. It is they who have to sober up and compromise or else they get no help.

We tried everything bro. Even talked to twitter India.

Do you know what exactly is that triggered the ban or do you have some idea?