Turks down 'Russian plane violating their airspace'

[illusion8]

As i said you are obviously very pro Russia. So your views aren't really neutral/logical. I understand though since India has Russia to thank a lot for everything including giving it an army, since without Russia, i cant think of what military India will have today to be honest. But that doesn't means you should be saying irrational stuffs just because you are supporting Russia my man. Calm down. NATO is not overrated...........We don't even rate NATO, others/outsiders do.

If it wasn't for the Americans, you would be speaking german and giving us the hail Hitler salute..NATO is because of the Americans and to an extent..The Germans and the French. .else NATO sans the 3 countries mentioned is a joke. BBC propaganda machine only runs so deep.

 

[500]

Always wonder how non such stories manage to grow to 11 pages.

 

[Hussein]

Always wonder how non such stories manage to grow to 11 pages.

let it be 12 pages ... for once let's unite for a common goal

 

[Kamil_baku]

I have no doubt about it. If Russia goes for an all out attack on Turkey how long do you think they can withstand it? They will simply bomb them into oblivion.

Now, as far the involvement of NATO is considered, the whole scenario is different then and simply too complex.

Are you serious? dude, does some research about Turkish military.. No country in the World will risk to go in a war with Turkey.. Obviously, in Russian case, both countries will not survive at the end, but there are not stupid to suicide..

I believe Turkey did it, and the bomb in Ankara today might be a response from Russia..

 

[Ceylal]

A RUSSIAN jet has been shot down by Turkish forces after it flew into the country's airspace, according to as yet unconfirmed reports circulating on social media.
According to reports, eyewitnesses saw a large explosion in Huraytan, northern Syria, while three fighter jets were hovering above.

One journalist tweeted that three Turkish planes were responding to "mysterious" lock-ons from Mig-29 jets, which are used by Putin's forces.

Daily Star Online has contacted the Turkish government and the Russian military but neither could be reached for comment.

It comes amid heightening tensions between Putin and the West just days after another Russian bomber violated Turkish airspace.

F-16 fighters were scrambled after a MIG-29 twin-engined jet locked radar on Turkish planes near the town of Yayladagi, in Hatay province close to the border with Syria.

Turkish jets then escorted the Soviet-era aircraft back into Syrian airspace.

The incursion followed nearly a week of Russia's devastating bombing campaign in Syria after President Vladimir Putin declared war on Islamic State (ISIS).
Turkey's Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said Russia's entry into the conflict in Syria had escalated the crisis and that Moscow admitted its warplane's violation of Turkey's airspace was a "mistake".

Russia's ambassador in Turkey was also summoned in protest at the provocative action.

Turkish officials have warned Moscow would be held "responsible for any undesired incident" that may occur in the future.
And earlier this week former MI6 chief Sir John Sawers warned of a cataclysmic clash between Russia and the US as tensions boil between both superpowers.

It came after Defence Secretary Michael Fallon announced Britain is to station a "small number" of troops in the Baltic states in a further move to deter Russian aggression.

Mr Sawer said: "It is going to be quite hard to continue this campaign unless there is a degree of military co-ordination between the Russians and the West.

"You can't really have two air forces fighting different campaigns aimed at different objectives over the same territory without the real risk of a clash."



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And they sinked the four fregates that lunched the missiles from the caspian sea...Sound like desperation to me...

Are you sure?

This is what I read...
"the Turkish military said a MiG-29 fighter jet -- an aircraft used by both Russia and Syria -- had harassed two of its F-16s by locking its radar on to them on Sunday as they patrolled the border."

they said non identified MIG 29, that means they are not Russians or Syrians...

 

[bsruzm]

I believe Turkey did it, and the bomb in Ankara today might be a response from Russia..

Bro, I don't think so but as like German FM, Putin also made a strange comment on bombing:
''Bu, dost ve komşu ülke Türkiye'de istikrarı bozmayı amaçlayan bir girişimdir. Ayrıca, seçim öncesi bir dönemde gerçekleşiyor. Bu, açık bir provokasyon. Terörle mücadele güçlerimizi birleştirmemiz gerek. Türkiye'de meydana gelen olaydan dolayı Türk halkına, Türkiye Cumhurbaşkanı'na başsağlığı diliyorum, bu birçok kişinin hayatını kaybettiği terör suçudur. Biz terörle hep birlikte mücadele edersek işte o zaman etkili olacaktır"

 

[dray]

Well Turkey does have a very credible powerful military, if you think Russia can 'easily' finish Turkey then i think you need to revise your knowledge about Turkey. Moreover Turkey is part of our NATO and we will be force to defend Turkey if Russia started a war against Turkey, not just because we want to, but simply because we have to. And we will all know how that will turn out for Russia in case it got into anu conflict with NATO. However Russia might try and play the nuclear card since its conventional forces will be no match for an expeditionary war against NATO.

Anyway, i dont thnk this news is a credible news , will need to wait for more infos. even if it is, it will be more likely a failed state syrian fighter jet than Russia.

Theoretically yes, but practically it's another story. NATO is a highly capable force which is good at fighting against countries that are not capable enough to return large number of body bags or bomb European and American cities, your open democratic society and free press won't allow you to pick up fight with someone who can seriously harm you and burn your homes. Russia on the contrary doesn't share all these burdens. Internet bravado is fine, but only weapons and money don't fight a war, otherwise not so long ago Russia did give NATO a reason to bomb it.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Bro, I don't think so but as like German FM, Putin also made a strange comment on bombing:
''Bu, dost ve komşu ülke Türkiye'de istikrarı bozmayı amaçlayan bir girişimdir. Ayrıca, seçim öncesi bir dönemde gerçekleşiyor. Bu, açık bir provokasyon. Terörle mücadele güçlerimizi birleştirmemiz gerek. Türkiye'de meydana gelen olaydan dolayı Türk halkına, Türkiye Cumhurbaşkanı'na başsağlığı diliyorum, bu birçok kişinin hayatını kaybettiği terör suçudur. Biz terörle hep birlikte mücadele edersek işte o zaman etkili olacaktır"

Come on as I did with evidence and official "blurred" documents. Akilli ol evlat

 

[Kamil_baku]

Sounds rubbish because Mig29 can out-speed the F16 easily..

Yugoslavia war showed the opposite.. its not a video game to have a race base on specification on paper..

 

[cirr]

It is time for western propaganda machines to stop mental-masturbating the world。

 

[Max]

this is not between turkey and russia, but between the nato-puppet erdogan and syria/russia/humanity.

sad that you being a pakistani should ignore that the taliban is of the same ideology generally as erdogan's ikhwaanis.

you know there are turk movements in turkey that wish the overthrow of erdogan.

agree with first part that there will be no Turkey vs Russia it will be NATO vs Russia,

I dont have anything to do with erdogan or any other leader in Turkey... its Turkey's internal problem who they elect to govern themselves .

 

[bdslph]

Russian air force dont have mig29 in Syria

 

[Project 4202]

Where are those drunk fanboys ( ) now? They seem, they came to their senses and yet it isn't even 'confirmed'.

and it never will be because its a B.S story made up by your camel brothers in Syria to make them selfs feel better because they are being raped daily by our Air force.

and too our low IQ friends on this forum, I have to say this: don't you think for second that if this actually happened there would be at least a single photo or video of the aircraft wreckage by now?

Logic 101.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Theoretically yes, but practically it's another story. NATO is a highly capable force which is good at fighting against countries that are not capable enough to return large number of body bags or bomb European and American cities, your open democratic society and free press won't allow you to pick up fight with someone who can seriously harm you and burn your homes. Russia on the contrary doesn't share all these burdens. Internet bravado is fine, but only weapons and money don't fight a war, otherwise not so long ago Russia did give NATO a reason to bomb it.

As i said before, Why will we bomb Russia meanwhile there are far more efficient ways we can deal with them?lol We are already bringing down their economy to its knees, that is farrrr more effective than bombing them which will cost us more. Give it just 3 years more and see where Russia economy will be. They will come pleading for talks and compromises just like after we brought down the U.S.S.R. Let's just wait and see.

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WE DONT NEED TO FIRE A SINGLE SHOT. As Sun Tzu said : the supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. We will keep using that tactic with Russia as we did with Soviet union.Its a tried and tested method

 

[Hack-Hook]

For god sake couldn't they at least mentioned something that Russia sent there.