Turkish Unmanned Vehicle Programs

[Kamil_baku]

@Kamil_baku Brother its so strange! I was thinking to ask the same question and now alert came that @Vord quoted my post . I came and saw that you posted it. Its very interesting

We are both Turk bro. We wanna know everything in details..

 

[Pax Ottomana]

@Kamil_baku Brother its so strange! I was thinking to ask the same question and now alert came that @Vord quoted my post . I came and saw that you posted it. Its very interesting

@kartal1 I had a quote from you stored in memory from another thread. It accidentally got pasted here. That's probably why you got a notice. Sorry about that bro.

 

[kartal1]

@kartal1 I had a quote from you stored in memory from another thread. It accidentally got pasted here. That's probably why you got a notice. Sorry about that bro.

Dont sorry! You have nothing to sorry about. It was very strange and funny .

 

[cabatli_53]

Turkish drones by Payload capacity

Bayraktar TB2: ~100kg
Anka-B/S: ~200kg
Anka-2: ~750kg
Bayraktar NG SIHA: 1500kg

 

[TheMightyBender]

Turkish drones by Payload capacity

Bayraktar TB2: ~100kg
Anka-B/S: ~200kg
Anka-2: ~750kg
Bayraktar NG SIHA: 1500kg

There was talk of a "Bayraktar MIUS" which i think was a transonic UAV with 4-5 hours endurance. Is NG SIHA refering to that or is this a different project? If the latter, then what happened to MIUS?

 

[OguzSenturk]

I don't know, but they say it'll have a payload capacity of 1500 kg. That's a lot for an UAV. Even the dual-engine Anka-2 is being designed for only 700 kg. It sounds like Baykar is working on a really massive new bird. Possibly HALE-class given how Selcuk Bayraktar mentions "high flight capability".

I bet the UCAV they are talking is this

So weight increased to 4,5t, payload capacity increased to 1,5t.

 

[Kutsanan]

I bet the UCAV they are talking is this

So weight increased to 4,5t, payload capacity increased to 1,5t.

if they can reach that point fak the Anka 2.

 

[Seyfullah]

https://twitter.com/x/status/924353222118182913

 

[kartal1]

STM is developing bigger fixed wing kamikaze drone. Kargu and Alpagu first deliveries will be in the first week of November this year.

http://www.milliyet.com.tr/kamikaze-drone-un-daha-buyugu-gundem-2545753/

 

[Nutuk]

The ANKA-2 will have 2x TEI PD170 turbo engines (classic piston engine)
The Bayraktar NG will be turboprop powered, kinda equivalend of the Reaper UCAV

 

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Altinay/Aselsan multirotor drone

Increased payload version

 

[Pax Ottomana]

I bet the UCAV they are talking is this

So weight increased to 4,5t, payload capacity increased to 1,5t.

Dude, seriously, when it comes to UAVs, Baykar keeps making TAI look like an amateur aviation club in comparison.

 

[OguzSenturk]

Dude, seriously, when it comes to UAVs, Baykar keeps making TAI look like an amateur aviation club in comparison.

Baykar is a private company, they made Bayraktar UAV by their own decision. Remember, when Baykar made Bayraktar TB2, they couldn't sell it to the Army. SSM told them that "Our requirements are different in this project" and they declined.

Baykar made their own propaganda for 2 years to get public support behind them, then new tenders opened for TB2's class UAVs, and that is how they could sell their UAVs. After TB2's success, Army wanted to buy more TB2 from Baykar.

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TAI, in the other hand, was working on a project that has defined requirements within the tender. They built UAV according to tender successfully, then Army changed the requirements. That is how Anka-A was borned.

After they built Anka-B, Army changed requirements again about Cirit missiles, and within 2 years TAI successfully tested Cirit missile from Anka-B (after changing whole wing physical components)

Then Army changed requirements again about SATCOM. In 2 years, TAI built ANKA-S that can carry SATCOM. But then, MAM-L got into serial production, and Army wanted TAI to implement MAM-L on ANKA-S lmao.

In one year, they successfully build one new wing that can carry MAM-Ls under itself, then they starts tests.

And now, they are building planes.

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Summary: TAI did what Army asked in record times, the problem is not TAI. Problem is the Army ranks that does not know what they need, what they want from the company.

 

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Baykar is a private company, they made Bayraktar UAV by their own decision. Remember, when Baykar made Bayraktar TB2, they couldn't sell it to the Army. SSM told them that "Our requirements are different in this project" and they declined.

Baykar made their own propaganda for 2 years to get public support behind them, then new tenders opened for TB2's class UAVs, and that is how they could sell their UAVs. After TB2's success, Army wanted to buy more TB2 from Baykar.

It wasn't "propaganda" it was same procedure as Anka. Specs kept moving, they kept wanting more and more, they were asking for things that no other Tactical UAVs had. Vestel and Baykar kept up and developed beyond requirements.

Lets not forget the Karayel 1 and TB1

Hopefully those insidious elements within our armed forces are being removed.

 

[OguzSenturk]

It wasn't "propaganda" it was same procedure as Anka. Specs kept moving, they kept wanting more and more, they were asking for things that no other Tactical UAVs had. Vestel and Baykar kept up and developed beyond requirements.

Lets not forget the Karayel 1 and TB1

Nope. Baykar made TB2 by their own decision, they took the risk. They made perfect propaganda to force SSM to get these UAVs into Army. They even made several announcements in their own website like "dont let us to be second Nuri Demirağ" etc. I remember those days very well, people were sharing those announcements as much as they could to reach officials.

TB2 was their own taken risk, not asked by tenders.