Turkish Space Programs

Pax Ottomana · Dec 21, 2017

OguzSenturk said:
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Hybrid-propellant_rocket

Looks like a pretty promising technology. I wonder if Turkey's first satellite launcher will use this type of rocket.

Seyfullah · Dec 30, 2017

https://twitter.com/x/status/947051374986039296

Mr.Department · Dec 30, 2017

TheMightyBender said:
You can always create a new race.

I would ask you as professional from TAI ?
How realistic is the hybrid roket engine, without attached boosters
(In one structure IMO its too dangerous ) ?
Even Raptor will use liquids in theory
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor_(Raketentriebwerk)
IMO its worth to let some specialists make theoretical research on it.
But on the other side , the giants work on TR-3B -CodeAstra- Aurora Project.

Apropos hybrid engine
"A third alternative has always existed, but has not been used to any appreciable extent – the hybrid engine. "
https://nordicspace.net/2015/10/18/hybrid-engine-engine-for-the-future-2/

Vision is always an accelerator.

TheMightyBender · Dec 30, 2017

ATALAY said:
I would ask you as professional from TAI ?
How realistic is the hybrid roket engine, without attached boosters
(In one structure IMO its too dangerous ) ?
Even Raptor will use liquids in theory
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor_(Raketentriebwerk)
IMO its worth to let some specialists make theoretical research on it.
But on the other side , the giants work on TR-3B -CodeAstra- Aurora Project.

Apropos hybrid engine
"A third alternative has always existed, but has not been used to any appreciable extent – the hybrid engine. "
https://nordicspace.net/2015/10/18/hybrid-engine-engine-for-the-future-2/

Vision is always an accelerator.

Bro if a hybrid engine is what we selected then trust me, theoretical work has been done on it and it's feasibility study has passed.
But I need to mention another thing. One thing that I like about our defense industry unlike some other countries like Iran, is that we put the economic success factor into account. When we build things, we don't build them just to build them. Or just to bypass sanctions. We build them to be economically successful and independent even without government support in the future (even defense tech).
Now, the future of rockets is reusability. Non reusable rocket companies will die sooner or later. In order to make profit in the space launch business, companies should start looking towards reusable rockets after this. But rocket technologies is such an esoteric and advanced science that a country with almost no long range rocket design experience jumping right into reusable rockets is an oxymoron. However, I am happy that we are at least starting from the middle (not the bottom) by undertaking this project. Designing a hybrid rocket engine will not be easy. It will be challenging. It will take some time. But when it is done we will have expertise on both liquid and solid fuel as well as everything associated with the two, bringing us to the doorsteps of reusable rockets.

Mr.Department · Dec 30, 2017

TheMightyBender said:
selected then trust me

Thank you very much brother, you poured hope in my boiling heart . Tesekkür ederim.

KapitaanAli · Dec 30, 2017

Many universities and companies work on hybrid propulsion, but on a small scale.

There's a Turk Dr. Arif Karabeyoglu who has worked on hybrid motors and is currently the President of Space Propulsion Group. One of the fields they focus on is hybrid propulsion. But it's all based in the U.S.

Turkey's first hybrid rocket was fired by PARS Rocketry Group of ITU in 2015.

Mr.Department · Dec 30, 2017

KapitaanAli said:
Many universities and companies work on hybrid propulsion, but on a small scale.

There's a Turk Dr. Arif Karabeyoglu who has worked on hybrid motors and is currently the President of Space Propulsion Group. One of the fields they focus on is hybrid propulsion. But it's all based in the U.S.

Turkey's first hybrid rocket was fired by PARS Rocketry Group of ITU in 2015.

Pax Ottomana · Dec 31, 2017

ATALAY said:

What's the status of model rocketry in Turkey? Are students allowed to build scaled models and launch/test them? What are the permissions needed, if any?

Mr.Department · Dec 31, 2017

Vord said:
What's the status of model rocketry in Turkey? Are students allowed to build scaled models and launch/test them? What are the permissions needed, if any?

Maalesef bu konu ile ilgili Yönerge ve Genelgeleri bilmiyorum.
Below is an ITÜ students project.

http://www.armarockets.com/

KapitaanAli · Dec 31, 2017

Rocket motors are classified as A/8, A/4, A/2, B, C, D, ...., Z, AA, AB, ...., AG on the basis of Impulse.
Up to G are model rockets.
H and above are high power rockets. (Don't be confused by "high power" though. Still pretty low.)

On the basis of this, a couple of agencies give certification.
PARS has a Level2 Tripoli certification, which means they've built, flown and recovered a rocket in J to L range.
It makes them the only civilian entity in Turkey that can fly high powered rockets (but only upto L). Sort of like the sounding rocket they fired, İstiklal.

(You need a Level1 Tripoli for H to I high power rockets. Below Level1 is of course model rockets.)

I doubt Turkey has any restrictions on model rockets. Usually it must be made from light materials.

Vord said:
What's the status of model rocketry in Turkey? Are students allowed to build scaled models and launch/test them? What are the permissions needed, if any?

So basically the answer is that you can fly up to H level Impulse engines.

And probably whatever material your local police officer allows for your low power models. Lol.

Mr.Department · Dec 31, 2017

KapitaanAli said:
And probably whatever material your local police officer allows for your low power models

Thanks.

UzaySan · Jan 7, 2018

@cabatlı_53 said slv systems first design period is done with ukranian help in missiles and torpedo topic so when will it be ready to use what do you think