Turkish Politics & Internal Affairs

[kartal1]

freely the topic... the problem of medium individuals and politicans' in muslim majority countries is "complex of inferiority" which results as accepting "western democracy(which is a lie)" a GOD and seeing own country as a loser not able to do anything independent(he doesnt believe even that country does some acts independently) , and his own ppl's religion as an obstacle to progress...


terrorism doesnt just outbreak, just appear in a peaceful region like muslim majority countries. islam doesnt allow killing innocent ppl(this sentence is for non muslims dont know about islam). there should be some reason for an illness and a terrorist act to be erupted, outbroke,appear. ok?

the main reason for terrorism around world is some European countries, USA,UN,ISRAEL and some other countries for some spesific reasons like Russia. bcoz those countries and NGOs are hypocrites. they dont practise what they preach. like malcolm x said, ""I have more respect for a man who lets me know where he stands, even if he's wrong, than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil."

for example, killing an american tourist in istanbul is usually accepted and treated as a usual murder case but an iraqi in iraq killing an innocent american tourist is accepted as terrorism. why? bcoz america invaded his country and killed his family. or if a muslim named guy kills 2 ppl in a market in usa he is terrorist but a non muslim white guy does same then he is accepted as a "lone wolf"

so dont tell me about "terrorists in uzbekistan turkmenistan" bcoz those countries are muslim majority countries are free just for some 20 years from russian terrorism, and are still between american and russian terrorism.

Why not talk about terrorism in all of its forms? Its true that some other powers are making the environment friendly and are hiring false sheikhs and so on but in the end of the day a lot of the people from Uzbekistan and Tajikistan join terrorist organizations that are claiming to be Muslim. We see that the members of ISIS for example are from all over the world but there is special place for Arabs and Central Asian origin. The majority of ISIS are not called John or Michael but are called for example Ahmad and Abdul. I am not saying that Ahmad and Abdul are real Muslims but I am saying that to deny that poor educated, dumb and brainwashed Muslims all over the world and especially Uzbekistan and Tajikistan are joining terrorist organizations like ISIS and the Taliban is like to say black to the white. All of those terrorist organizations and the majority of tarikats that have power and also business ties all over the world are serving the same masters. Including FETO. I have to tell that I have enough knowledge for Islam in order to know that even the building of the tomb of prophet Muhammad into the mosque is considered by the majority of scholars as wrong.
Here is one way that the modern Muslims are using the tombs in our days.
THIS IS YOBAZLIK! Those individuals and the ones that like to blow themselves up are making Islam and Muslims to look bad all over the world.
http://beyazgazete.com/video/anahaber/atv-4/2013/03/23/turbelerde-ygs-izdihami-390938.html

 

[xenon54 out]

Why not talk about terrorism in all of its forms? Its true that some other powers are making the environment friendly and are hiring false sheikhs and so on but in the end of the day a lot of the people from Uzbekistan and Tajikistan join terrorist organizations that are claiming to be Muslim. We see that the members of ISIS for example are from all over the world but there is special place for Arabs and Central Asian origin. The majority of ISIS are not called John or Michael but are called for example Ahmad and Abdul. I am not saying that Ahmad and Abdul are real Muslims but I am saying that to deny that poor educated, dumb and brainwashed Muslims all over the world and especially Uzbekistan and Tajikistan are joining terrorist organizations like ISIS and the Taliban is like to say black to the white. All of those terrorist organizations and the majority of tarikats that have power and also business ties all over the world are serving the same masters. Including FETO. I have to tell that I have enough knowledge for Islam in order to know that even the building of the tomb of prophet Muhammad into the mosque is considered by the majority of scholars as wrong.
Here is one way that the modern Muslims are using the tombs in our days.
THIS IS YOBAZLIK! Those individuals and the ones that like to blow themselves up are making Islam and Muslims to look bad all over the world.
http://beyazgazete.com/video/anahaber/atv-4/2013/03/23/turbelerde-ygs-izdihami-390938.html

Talking against a wall will be more productive.

 

[[TR]AHMET]

Everything is very clear in Islam, if somethings are so hard to explain it is not coming from Islam or if you doubt about somethings you have to stay away from them.

What we need there is everythings in Qur-an and Sunnah, we dont need more and we are not cleaver than Allah or Hz. Mohammad to add somethings new in Islam!

 

[SouI]

yeah everything is clear in islam and easy to explain, like tariqats and the travel of the prophet to heaven and allah isra miraj

Tell me where you are natively from.

 

[kartal1]

sufism(tariqats) and dhikr are not like what beyaztv or some secular qamalists see...

ones dont practise islam shouldnt talk about islam and whats in islam and whats not.
thats why qamalists in turkey lose every election in turkey

And what are they? Innovators in Islam. Practice traditions that our prophet never did. I don't have to tell you that even music is banned except if its dhikr and not music like dhikr but instead closer to mantra like subhanallah, alhamdulillah, allahu akbar that are accompanied at most with rhythm that is made by some dumb sound or the instrument duff. That is why on that time there was poetry and not music. We are talking of music but what about circling like crazy and get into trance... it is also possible to hallucinate because of that. There are certain breathing methods that can make your brain let very big quantity of DMT (drug substance generating naturally in the brain). That high quantity can make you hallucinate and also make you think that you are seeing prophets etc. With that type of "dhikr" and the special type of breathing you are cultivating your brain to do it. Also the environment is very important and in environment where there are spiritual music like the one performed by the "imam" or the "mollah" the process is even stronger. How much DMT your brain will let is strongly individual on lifestyle, diet etc. But wait I thought in Islam you must be aware of your environment and not get into trances or states when you do not know actually what you are doing. I also don't have to tell you that the most people that practice magic or are making taweez or all kind of muska where they are working with the unseen are coming from these circles. In the name of science and mysticism these circles start to work with the unseen, produce false claims, invent bidah's. As a man that prefers secularism on the current state of the country I am shocked that as a man that prefer Shariah you are also defending people that are destroying the Sunnah and the way our prophet thought us the way we should practice Islam. I am glad Ataturk hanged all of those sheikhs and traitors. We must do it also today because they are not only against the religion but also against the constitution of our country and the large tarikats and FETO like organizations are not more than tool in the hands of CIA with structure not different than of a mafia organization conducting murders, bribery, smuggling etc. Hang them in the center of Ankara. Beyaz TV did not show me this I saw it with my own eyes. Beyaz TV is giving you confirmation and also the words of the followers of these traitors.

 

[kartal1]

atatürk didnt close "dergah" "tekke" "zaviye"
atatürk supposed/guessed he closed "dergah" " tekke" " zaviye" ...

and say lailaheillallah 1000+ times once you kneel and try NOT to vibrate / move your body

At least he tried and he did a very good and spectacular job. What is the purpose of that 1000+ thing? I do not know from our prophet for that practice either. You can say it if you want 50.000 times but if it do not comes from the heart then its nothing but trance entering mantra exercise that we see in the eastern teachings and religions.

 

[-SINAN-]

atatürk didnt close "dergah" "tekke" "zaviye"
atatürk supposed/guessed he closed "dergah" " tekke" " zaviye" ...

and say lailaheillallah 1000+ times once you kneel and try NOT to vibrate / move your body

Looks like you can write in capital letters. Next time write Atatürk's name correctly.

 

[[TR]AHMET]

There is no get into trance in Islam even while praying you shouldn't close your eyes even when you closing floor your eyes should be open.

So shaking head and circles by closing eyes are complately fabrications! Without praying shaking head and circles are real bullshit go and do somethings usefull for people! Dont mess up with Islam.

 

[-SINAN-]

i wrote it correctly. what about lailaheillallah?

Cut the crap....

 

[shah_123]

Cut the crap....

excuse me, the guy was suggesting to read Lailaha illallah -- Why would you "cut the crap".

 

[xenon54 out]

kneel and get a prayer rosary and say "lailaheillallah" 1000 times and try not no move little or alot?
you can feel the power in your heart. and make that everyday at the same time for a while.


lailaheillallah crap? you cut the crap

Senle biraz Türkce konusalimmi?

 

[xenon54 out]

nerden

Off cok cabuk gümledin yahu, en azindan bir kelimeyi dogru yazabilseydin.

@cabatli_53 we have a false flagger here.

 

[-SINAN-]

excuse me, the guy was suggesting to read Lailaha illallah -- Why would you "cut the crap".

Don't butt into subjects that doesn't concern you.

 

[-SINAN-]

kime soracam mustafa kemalin adini nasil yazacagimi?

@cabatli_53

 

[asena_great]

nerden

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