Turkish Politics & Internal Affairs

[CAN_TR]

That's your personal views -- if the Turk society doesn't need them, they will die out with the passage of time.

If you say that you don't need these Islamic sects, than you must also have the courage to listen if someone comes and say, we don't need seculars/liberals in Turkey.

Who was he?

You are joking, right?

That means you are OK with false and fake preaching Islamic sects?
And scholars who talk from their a$$es instead of telling the truth... not to mention the YouTube preachers, they are doing everything to get some $ or € from retard uneducated sheeps.

 

[shah_123]

You are joking, right?

That means you are OK with false and fake preaching Islamic sects?
And scholars who talk from their a$$es instead of telling the truth... not to mention the YouTube preachers, they are doing everything to get some $ or € from retard uneducated sheeps.

No I wasn't joking, all I was saying that if the society doesn't need a thing, it will either vanish or be exposed - like the feto, got exposed and busted.

The thing is who decides which sect is false. Sunnis will say shia is false, shia say Sunni is false and wahabi says both are false.

I was generally talking about the Sufi Tariqas like there's following of Imam Rabbani (from our region) in Turkey, Maulana Rumi .

Two things need to be taken care of,
1) the sect/tariqa isn't working against the state, e.g feto
2) the sect/tariqa isn't corrupting the beliefs of the Muslims,.e.g qadiyanis

 

[CAN_TR]

No I wasn't joking, all I was saying that if the society doesn't need a thing, it will either vanish or be exposed - like the feto, got exposed and busted.

The thing is who decides which sect is false. Sunnis will say shia is false, shia say Sunni is false and wahabi says both are false.

I was generally talking about the Sufi Tariqas like there's following of Imam Rabbani (from our region) in Turkey, Maulana Rumi .

Two things need to be taken care of,
1) the sect/tariqa isn't working against the state, e.g feto
2) the sect/tariqa isn't corrupting the beliefs of the Muslims,.e.g qadiyanis

Can anybody post opinion polls/surveys for the elections 2018, who is ahead -- What are the chances of four party alliance?

After the Quran every Muslim must follow the path of our Prophet, not Imams.
There is no dancing to trance and praying like a jew in Islam.(no offense to Jews)

I'm not the religioust human but i can differ from right and fake.

Women can't work, Women can't go out, Womens is it not allowed to drive... these are statements from FAKE scholars.
They preach their own personel views to other naive people, and in the end they believe that.

Because of retarded statements like that, Muslims in Europe and America suffer i'm tired of it.

Have a nice day... i'm finished with this topic.

 

[GlobalMillitary96]

Around 3 years ago I started to become interested in Turkish politics. I looked at the opposition to Erdogan and I saw no hope what so ever. CHP had Kilicdaroglu and MHP had Devlet Bahceli. Both of which were and still are terrible leaders. The only other major party back then was HDP...

I saw two people that really shined and one was Muharrem Ince and the other was Meral Aksener. This was more than 2 years ago. Which was way before Meral Aksener tried to become MHPs leader.

Meral Aksener's motherly warmth and 'uniqueness' really struck me. Let me elaborate. As a female leader she can appeal to female voters with ease. But at the same time she can appeal to male voters particularity right wing people. She uses religion in her speeches but at the same time she can draw in secular voters as well. Politicians like her are rare.

I saw a video which was titled "CHP MPs amazing speech"(translated from Turkish) years ago. Before the video started I didn't really expect to be blown away. Boy was I in for a surprise... This was one of the best speeches I have ever heard. I found out that his name was Muharrem Ince and all I thought to my self was THIS guy needs to REPLACE Kilicdaroglu. Muharrem Ince is a true veteran of politics who deserves to be president.

Muharrem Ince is a truly sincere man from what I've seen. The very fact that he wants to visit all his opponents shows he is a true gentleman. But his party is full of questionable people.

On the other hand Meral Aksener has a more murky past. However her party brings fresh air to our political landscape. Most of her party members seem like great people who truly wish to fix all the problems Turkey is facing after 15 years of AKP leadership.

2-3 years ago I prayed to Tengri, wishing that either one of them becomes a candidate against Erdogan. I got more than what I asked for, but of course I am grateful. Good luck to both of them.


At this point anything is better than Erdogan.

Who uses armed civilians to instill fear in opponents?
Who has insulted Ataturk multiple times?
Who stole millions of Turkish Liras from tax payers money and put it in his own pocket?
Who made peace with PKK when they were on their last stand?
Who sat there and watched America create a terror state next door?
Who invited Salih Muslim to Ankara?
Who let in 3 million Syrians?
Who wants to give 3 million Syrians citizenship?
Who is selling all our factories to foreigners?

Sometimes I think to myself this guy isn't that bad, but then I realize what he has done and continues to do. Don't mistake all our progress which has been conducted by SSM since 1985 as Erdogan's work. Our defense industry will be even better with a leader like Muharrem Ince or Meral Aksener, as they will not delay projects just so they can profit from them. Don't forget that.

 

[Oublious]

Ince is a failed physiq teacher and have nothing to measure with Erdogan, Aksener on the other side is a balloon and it will explode when the election is over for now hope of feto and people who hate Erdogan collabrate untill the election. Chp hope is struggle Erdogan with Aksener so they can win it(divide right win), why people think Aksener will winn I don't understand.

 

[mr.robot]

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1299936

 

[CAN_TR]

https://twitter.com/x/status/995015885634097153

 

[CAN_TR]

https://twitter.com/x/status/995029713725816832

 

[mustafa erkan]

Sometimes I think to myself this guy isn't that bad, but then I realize what he has done and continues to do. Don't mistake all our progress which has been conducted by SSM since 1985 as Erdogan's work. Our defense industry will be even better with a leader like Muharrem Ince or Meral Aksener, as they will not delay projects just so they can profit from them. Don't forget that.

I cant say anything about your political critics because it is your opinion but for the defence industry of Turkey it is clearly seen you are trying to underestimate the Erdogan's efforts and success.
Our defence industry is on target of our enemys and if Erdoğan goes I am afraid we will see these firms at very bad position in a few years time.We are so close to passing the critical edge in defence sector at Erdogan's period so I dont want too much from other leaders because I will be happy if Muharrem Ince or Meral Akşener only secures the sector and the firms from demolition.

 

[rajvoSa]

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) — Turkey’s prime minister says his country would be willing to assess requests for “a new page” in its relations with Armenia.

Binali Yildirim’s comments Friday were in response to reports that Armenia’s new prime minister, Nikol Pashinian, had called for the establishment of diplomatic relations between the two neighbors.

Turkey and Armenia signed a deal in 2009 to establish diplomatic ties and open their common borders but the agreement later collapsed over Turkey and Azerbaijan’s insistence that Armenia withdraw from the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh regions. Armenia’s demands that 1.5 million deaths under the Ottoman Empire be recognized as genocide have also driven a wedge between them.

Yildirim says “if Armenia abandons its hostile stance ... if it wants to open a new page, we would look at the details and respond accordingly.”

 

[-SINAN-]

if Armenia abandons its hostile stance

Meaning, end of the occupation of Karabag....We are not telling any thing different than what we have been telling for the past 15 years.

 

[rajvoSa]

Meaning, end of the occupation of Karabag....We are not telling any thing different than what we have been telling for the past 15 years.

Indeed. But Armenia now has a new PM and goverment. And initiative came from the new Armenian PM. We'll see.

 

[-SINAN-]

Indeed. But Armenia now has a new PM and goverment. And initiative came from the new Armenian PM. We'll see.

New PM saying "we are for the unconditional normalization of bilateral relations between Turkey "
https://tech2.org/turkey/turkey-message-from-pasinyan-retail-willing-to-normalized/

However we are saying "we can only normalize our relations with Armenia, if you end your occupation of Karabag"

Our brothers comes first.

 

[Targon]

That would never happen. Karabag is homogenized as an Armanian territory now. They wont peacefully pack up and leave.

 

[CAN_TR]

That would never happen. Karabag is homogenized as an Armanian territory now. They wont peacefully pack up and leave.

Without returning Karabag to Azerbaijan, we should keep isolate them.

There are two options...
1) They leave Karabag and the relations "normalize".
2) Nothing changes, and in the future Azerbaijan will take it back with force.