Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

[xenon54 out]

Bismillah if so...

https://twitter.com/x/status/945243431282118656

https://twitter.com/x/status/945244117193420801

https://twitter.com/x/status/945245144755982337

They revealed the whole plan before the operation even started, why cant they just talk less and do more?

 

[Deliorman]

They revealed the whole plan before the operation even started, why cant they just talk less and do more?

Cuz most Turks wet their pants when they hear big words and fairytales being told to them. We hear about an Arfin operation for how many months now and nothing really happens? What’s even so important about Arfin when you can surround it and choke them from every side or when you have so many other points to hit all across the border with Syria and Iraq too.

Many here will get triggered by those words but Turkey probably doesn’t even have the military strength to back up those big words used for internal consumption mostly anyway...

 

[xenon54 out]

Cuz most Turks wet their pants when they hear big words and fairytales being told to them. We hear about an Arfin operation for how many months now and nothing really happens? What’s even so important about Arfin when you have so many other points to hit all across the border with Syria and Iraq too.
Many here will get triggered by those words but Turkey probably doesn’t even have the military strength to back up those big words used for internal consumption mostly anyway...

I think its possible the problem lies somewhere else.
I also believe the operation will start but when and which scale i cant tell. Im just sick of statements every other day without anything happening.

 

[Nurhak40]

Maybe if they give a plan like will invade from here and there and when the operation really starts they suprise and attack from the opposite side

 

[kartal1]

Cuz most Turks wet their pants when they hear big words and fairytales being told to them. We hear about an Arfin operation for how many months now and nothing really happens? What’s even so important about Arfin when you can surround it and choke them from every side or when you have so many other points to hit all across the border with Syria and Iraq too.

Many here will get triggered by those words but Turkey probably doesn’t even have the military strength to back up those big words used for internal consumption mostly anyway...

I will agree with your post.... at least the most of it but to say Turkey dont even have the military strength to hit the points is...... man I cant even describe it. Even SAA, the Iraqi Army have the military strength but TSK doesnt. Those claims are funny. There is big difference between full scale politically supported military operation and what we saw in Al Bab. Al Bab was a joke. You must concentrate a bit on the military side of the forum and especially in the Turkish Section. I am sure that you are very smart person and you read a lot but I am not sure if you understand properly the situation that is TSK in the moment and the actual military / fire power of Turkey if you are making claims like this. If TSK have the political support its not a problem to make the whole Northern Syria one with the ground but when everytime jet is entering Syrian airspace the military staff is thinking are we going to turn into FETO members after this strike or are we going to be shot down by Russian jet without warning its very different. What are Afrin, Manbij, Ain Al Arab, Qandil etc infront of a big 80 Million country like Turkey that have one of the strongest armies in the world and second biggest in NATO? Its nothing. I can assure you that the problem is not in the military strength. A fortress is being captured from inside. Whatever you do and even in your personal life never forget those words. They were present to me from a very smart man that is a hero for Turkey. They were given to me and I am giving them to you and all of the readers. Those are not empty words.

 

[T-123456]

I will agree with your post.... at least the most of it but to say Turkey dont even have the military strength to hit the points is...... man I cant even describe it. Even SAA, the Iraqi Army have the military strength but TSK doesnt. Those claims are funny. There is big difference between full scale politically supported military operation and what we saw in Al Bab. Al Bab was a joke. You must concentrate a bit on the military side of the forum and especially in the Turkish Section. I am sure that you are very smart person and you read a lot but I am not sure if you understand properly the situation that is TSK in the moment and the actual military / fire power of Turkey if you are making claims like this. If TSK have the political support its not a problem to make the whole Northern Syria one with the ground but when everytime jet is entering Syrian airspace the military staff is thinking are we going to turn into FETO members after this strike or are we going to be shot down by Russian jet without warning its very different. What are Afrin, Manbij, Ain Al Arab, Qandil etc infront of a big 80 Million country like Turkey that have one of the strongest armies in the world and second biggest in NATO? Its nothing. I can assure you that the problem is not in the military strength. A fortress is being captured from inside. Whatever you do and even in your personal life never forget those words. They were present to me from a very smart man that is a hero for Turkey. They were given to me and I am giving them to you and all of the readers. Those are not empty words.

It is political,you are right but why the fvck do they come with these empty words,''Afrin operation blah blah'' when nothing is ever going to happen.
We cant choke the Afrin canton because there is a part in the south east of that canton controlled by Russia and the SAA.
The only way is to attack and drive them out which needs political and military leadership,we have none.
Putin and Trump dictate in Syria and Erdogan has to oblige,that is the fact.
So,next time some of our fanboys talk about a fictive ''Afrin Operation'',nobody should take them serious,including you.

 

[kartal1]

It is political,you are right but why the fvck do they come with these empty words,''Afrin operation blah blah'' when nothing is ever going to happen.
We cant choke the Afrin canton because there is a part in the south east of that canton controlled by Russia and the SAA.
The only way is to attack and drive them out which needs political and military leadership,we have none.
Putin and Trump dictate in Syria and Erdogan has to oblige,that is the fact.
So,next time some of our fanboys talk about a fictive ''Afrin Operation'',nobody should take them serious,including you.

They talk about operations everyday because they fear that the people will start to think. When you talk about operation and on the next day you share news about some artillery fire that killed 2 YPG terrorists and next after that you show videos from 2013 operations and say "in one week we killed 100 terrorist in which 10 were in the most wanted list" the dumb people are thinking like "Bir gece ansiajfbdgfbda" . This way you are keeping them in tension and they forgot to think and instead they start to behave emotionally rather than rationally. I dont like it to that we are dependent on that if the Russians will let us in Afrin but we cant get the present time. The only hope is that we learn from the present and prevent faults like that in the future.

 

[Mucahit]

Turkey most probably wants to solve this issue without a fight so they keep posting news like that in order to put pressure on the Kurds so they let Russians or Assad take Afrin & Tel-Rıfaat...We did the same thing with Menbij but it wasn't really effective.

ln my opinion a military operation will sooner or later happen no matter the circumstances.

We have deployed many equipment and troops both within Syria and to the border towns, Last years operation was kind of rushed so we gave many avoidable casualties, l at least hope we learned from our past mistakes.

Don't forget we delayed the Cyprus operation for nearly 10 years but eventually it did happen

 

[Mr.Department]

They talk about operations everyday because they fear that the people will start to think. When you talk about operation and on the next day you share news about some artillery fire that killed 2 YPG terrorists and next after that you show videos from 2013 operations and say "in one week we killed 100 terrorist in which 10 were in the most wanted list" the dumb people are thinking like "Bir gece ansiajfbdgfbda" . This way you are keeping them in tension and they forgot to think and instead they start to behave emotionally rather than rationally. I dont like it to that we are dependent on that if the Russians will let us in Afrin but we cant get the present time. The only hope is that we learn from the present and prevent faults like that in the future.

Russia is not the "lock" in this case, IMO its the USA. PKK said to the Russians clear and misunderstandable that they won't even leave Afrin to SAA.
So, take a look at Suleimaniyah Region at North Iraq PKK announced today his own territorial Gov. and canton similar to Rojava. We are operating and operating there and lost (martyrs) today again 3 soldiers 20 km deep in Iraq. We even can't takeover Sincar or Mahmur.

 

[Deliorman]

I will agree with your post.... at least the most of it but to say Turkey dont even have the military strength to hit the points is...... man I cant even describe it. Even SAA, the Iraqi Army have the military strength but TSK doesnt. Those claims are funny. There is big difference between full scale politically supported military operation and what we saw in Al Bab. Al Bab was a joke. You must concentrate a bit on the military side of the forum and especially in the Turkish Section. I am sure that you are very smart person and you read a lot but I am not sure if you understand properly the situation that is TSK in the moment and the actual military / fire power of Turkey if you are making claims like this. If TSK have the political support its not a problem to make the whole Northern Syria one with the ground but when everytime jet is entering Syrian airspace the military staff is thinking are we going to turn into FETO members after this strike or are we going to be shot down by Russian jet without warning its very different. What are Afrin, Manbij, Ain Al Arab, Qandil etc infront of a big 80 Million country like Turkey that have one of the strongest armies in the world and second biggest in NATO? Its nothing. I can assure you that the problem is not in the military strength. A fortress is being captured from inside. Whatever you do and even in your personal life never forget those words. They were present to me from a very smart man that is a hero for Turkey. They were given to me and I am giving them to you and all of the readers. Those are not empty words.

Turkey has some pretty big land forces (if you want to make a huge operation and take control over a place that’s what you need) but that doesn’t mean they are something other than a paper tiger- big numbers with a very poor leadership, poorly trained personel in most cases, badly equiped and ineffective. Even the newest weaponry the Turkish Armed Forces uses suffeed heavily in the Euphrates Shield operation- you saw how many amateurish mistakes have been done there and are done daily in the war against PKK.
Of course Turkey can take over all North Syria if it really wants to but it will pay a huge price that not too many people in Turkey are really ready to pay.

Real strength is when you have the power, you know how to use it and you are not afraid to do it. Big words which are not backed with actions are worth nothing.

 

[Mr.Department]

amateurish mistakes have been done there and are done daily in the war against PKK

Power without control is no Power.
There are almost no officers left. The forces rely on specialists, that's a no go.

Last news

https://twitter.com/x/status/945315093927071744

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Unconfirmed: Kani Rash Village under Turkish Army Control.

 

[T-123456]

The only hope is that we learn from the present and prevent faults like that in the future.

You know this is fiction,whenever have they learned anything from their faults?
Only empty words from empty leadership.
Hope is when you actually believe there will be a change in attitude of the leadership,since that is never going to happen,we should just be realistic and move on.
Bosuna umutlanmasin millet ki,her zamanki gibi hayal kirikligina ugramasinlar.

 

[bedbin]

You know this is fiction,whenever have they learned anything from their faults?
Only empty words from empty leadership.
Hope is when you actually believe there will be a change in attitude of the leadership,since that is never going to happen,we should just be realistic and move on.
Bosuna umutlanmasin millet ki,her zamanki gibi hayal kirikligina ugramasinlar.

bro without lies akp goverment can not survive we all know that(except akp supporters)

 

[Mr.Department]

bro without lies akp goverment can not survive we all know that(except akp supporters)

You know this is fiction

Don't judge me , but I realy have some sympathy with Vatan Partisi. Today there was a analys in their newspapers website that Turkey is under US surrounding and US wouldn't hesitat to attack us if we do something crazy in Syria or Iraq.

 

[kartal1]

Don't judge me , but I realy have some sympathy with Vatan Partisi. Today there was a analys in their newspapers website that Turkey is under US surrounding and US wouldn't hesitat to attack us if we do something crazy in Syria or Iraq.

According to Dugin he mate a major part of the military elite if you know what I mean because of that he knows Dogu Perincek.