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bro without lies akp goverment can not survive we all know that(except akp supporters)
We have said that many times but somehow they still survived,how to explain?

Don't judge me , but I realy have some sympathy with Vatan Partisi. Today there was a analys in their newspapers website that Turkey is under US surrounding and US wouldn't hesitat to attack us if we do something crazy in Syria or Iraq.
That Vatan Partisi should first ask and answer how it got this far and second,know that the US cant do sh!t if Turkiye(not blah blah Erdogan) really does something in Syria or Iraq.
 
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really does something

We should ask why there happens no Sri-Lanka model solution.
Jungle warfare is as difficult as in the mountains.


answer out how it got this far

The answer was partly in the analys.
Gülen couldn't fulfill the job. Now it's time to ignite a civil war in Turkey and clash with USA and then invade, to establish a complete US- and Israel loyal regime.
They prepare the terrorist PKK, as an Army well armed with 50000 personal, armor, artillery and missiles.
Bro. You know that at 15.July mobile and massive number of PKK/YPG terrorists were close to cross Turkish Syrian border ?
 
Dont talk like that :(. Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow. We dont even have a guarantee that we will lie in bed and will wake up.

It is possibe that he is right. I made my military service in Isparta my commander was First Lieutenant from Egridir Mountain Brigade Hayrullah S. Later I heard that he was KIA (martyred) against PKK. I will read all about Tamil Tigers and how they were deleted at all. My knowledge about them is not very deep.
 
Dont talk like that :(. Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow. We dont even have a guarantee that we will lie in bed and will wake up.
This ''hope'' of yours must be either very strong or an act of desperation,that is if i couldnt guess what you really think.
Neyse,lets just hope.:disagree:

It is possibe that he is right. I made my military service in Isparta my commander was First Lieutenant from Egridir Mountain Brigade Hayrullah S. Later I heard that he was KIA (martyred) against PKK. I will read all about Tamil Tigers and how they were deleted at all. My knowledge about them is not very deep.
He knows im right but he has ''hope''.
 
Brothers, I understand your frustration but a new operation to northern Syria will happen it is just a matter of when and how none of the parties can get in the way of this.

This is Turkish state tradition, we always give a million warnings before invading anywhere. Look at Cyprus and all our incursions into northern Iraq, Syria etc

and don’t under estimate the power of TSK it makes these Kurdish commies and Arab ISIS lovers sh*t there pants however the game is political here not just militarily.

We are most probably discussion about right now who will take what in the new Syria. Look at Al Bab, and ES zones they are practically a part of Turkey at the moment. Our lands will expand but slowly.
 
don’t under estimate

I am sceptic. 2012 after the RF-4E incident , Turkey claimed that it was an act of agression and 2 pilots were martyred. Israel or even the Brits would have immidiate retiliate.
Later I discussed with retired German experts , whom I can trust cause they have a good reputation also in Turkey . They told me, it was a RF-4 E drone and an US-trap to begin a war between Syria and Turkey.
After reading the comments of some friends here, I am literally confused.
 
I am sceptic. 2012 after the RF-4E incident , Turkey claimed that it was an act of agression and 2 pilots were martyred. Israel or even the Brits would have immidiate retiliate.
Later I discussed with retired German experts , whom I can trust cause they have a good reputation also in Turkey . They told me, it was a RF-4 E drone and an US-trap to begin a war between Syria and Turkey.
After reading the comments of some friends here, I am literally confused.
You disgrace the martyr pilots by saying this...
 
This ''hope'' of yours must be either very strong or an act of desperation,that is if i couldnt guess what you really think.
Neyse,lets just hope.:disagree:


He knows im right but he has ''hope''.
And what to do? To sit and cry and do nothing? The fate of the Turk is not to sit and cry. History showed it. In a such critical times with such importance you cant let yourself to have that low morale and loser behavior. You dont have the luxury to behave like that. The hope you mentioned rescued so many human lives and is the reason there is still a Turkish state. Discipline and high morale is the critical factor of success and high morale comes with hope. The values which our fathers and grandfathers had in order to guarantee our freedom and normal lifestyle were completely different from what you show. In Canakkale if everybody gave up what would be Turkey today? If there were not people with hope and knowledge like Ataturk there was not going to be a independence war. The values and the morale of the captured Turkish soldiers in the Korea war are not the values you are showing me as older and more experienced person. I dont know about you but I will never lose hope. Its not in my blood to lose hope. I have plans for my future and I am pursuing my objectives one by one in the name of Allah and in the name of the good of Turkey and the Turkish people. If I lose hope may my blood turns to sand.
 
It is possibe that he is right. I made my military service in Isparta my commander was First Lieutenant from Egridir Mountain Brigade Hayrullah S. Later I heard that he was KIA (martyred) against PKK. I will read all about Tamil Tigers and how they were deleted at all. My knowledge about them is not very deep.

The difference between the Tigers and the pkk scums is that Sri Lanka is an island
With the last offensive the Sri Lanka army pushed them so far they had nowhere to go!!! Finished off the leader and didn’t take any precautions because of the civilians!!!
 
We have said that many times but somehow they still survived,how to explain?


That Vatan Partisi should first ask and answer how it got this far and second,know that the US cant do sh!t if Turkiye(not blah blah Erdogan) really does something in Syria or Iraq.
They will never attack us, how expensive was it to invade Iraq? It will be even more expensive to attack Turkey. If they do a small strike they know we will never trust them with Anything ever again, not that we trust them very much anyways.
 
And what to do? To sit and cry and do nothing?
Well,if you think i would sit and cry or ever give up anything,you didnt read much of my posts on various forums,im the one telling others not to open pitiful threads about my country or people,not to make us look weak or desperate.
Unlike many crybabies here on internet im actually doing something in the real world and if you live in the real world,you know that it is all fvcked up which is called realism(the attitude or practice of accepting a situation as it is and being prepared to deal with it accordingly.),so i deal with it.
If there is nothing you are willing or able to do,what use is it to talk here about hope or change?
I dont believe in fairy tales.

If there were not people with hope and knowledge like Ataturk there was not going to be a independence war
The situation is different from WWI,we have been fvcked by our own,we are not one unit anymore,how can you even think of a person like Ataturk when there is only devide,Turks hate each other,there is no need for an enemy.
Who can you trust?
Feto,Seculars Ataturk's way,PKK supporters,AKP lovers,so called CHP Kemalist and the best part,most work with each other only when money is involved.
Do you really think there is something left of ''Vatan Millet''?
There is no more,''we all are different but united against our outside enemies'',it became a dream world.
Im saying it again,im a realist.
 
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