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once we attack they might hand everything to assad but whats the endgame here?
Popular discontent widely prevails areas controlled by the Manbij Military Council after their recent decision to hand over to the regime forces villages on the contact lines with “Euphrates Shield” factions
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights learned that resentment is widely prevailing Manbij city and its surroundings, located in the northwestern countryside of Aleppo, and also in areas controlled by the forces of Manbij Military Council after their recent decision to hand over to the regime forces areas located in the contact line with areas controlled by the forces of “Euphrates Shield” operation backed by Turkish forces, and local sources informed the observatory that this decision sparkled resentment and tension in the area, also reliable sources confirmed to the Syrian observatory that this agreement was based on Russian – Turkish agreement, to deploy members of the regime forces on the villages located on these contact lines, while the sources suggested that the Russian forces and members will participate in the separation process and handing over these villages.
http://www.syriahr.com/en/?p=62028
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http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/03032017 there is a harder aproach against barzani necessar.
The Syrian Kurds have recaptured all lost territories from the Euphrates Shield forces near al-Bab:
The Syrian government has also captured a village from the Euphrates Shield forces:
Funny, you only post here when SDF(YPG) makes a gain of some sort.
Operations haven't even started yet so don't get happy, soon we'll see who takes back what. Nah alirsiniz.
Do you think Turkish presence will be forever in Syria, in the end the regions of FSA will also got to SAA, the only reason why ypg is forced to retreat from those place is Turkey threatening them with war, dont try to show defeat as a victory.Putin played Erdogan for a fool ROFLMAO.
He made Erdogan give up on Aleppo and the vast majority of rebel groups in exchange for getting the green light to strike the Syrian Kurds. But in the end, Putin made a deal with the Syrian Kurds to protect them from any Turkish attacks around Manbij.
Russia outsmarted Turkey.
Now the Turks have to contend with sharing a border with either a hostile Syrian Arab neighbor or a hostile Syrian Kurdish neighbor.
If Erdogan was smart, he would've helped Barzani's Peshmerga stooges take over Syrian Kurdistan back in 2014, but the sultan wannabe preferred ISIS to all Kurdish factions, which ironically presented the YPG with a golden opportunity to gain American support to fight against ISIS.
So you're basically admitting that Turkey has betrayed the Syrian opposition and conceded defeat to Assad and the Iranians lol. So Erdogan has conceded that Syria will become Iran's backyard, which ironically goes against all the harsh anti-Iranian comments he made when he was in Bahrain a few weeks ago.Do you think Turkish presence will be forever in Syria, in the end the regions of FSA will also got to SAA, the only reason why ypg is forced to retreat from those place is Turkey threatening them with war, dont try to show defeat as a victory.
Putin played Erdogan for a fool ROFLMAO.
He made Erdogan give up on Aleppo and the vast majority of rebel groups in exchange for getting the green light to strike the Syrian Kurds. But in the end, Putin made a deal with the Syrian Kurds to protect them from any Turkish attacks around Manbij.
Russia outsmarted Turkey.
Now the Turks have to contend with sharing a border with either a hostile Syrian Arab neighbor or a hostile Syrian Kurdish neighbor.
If Erdogan was smart, he would've helped Barzani's Peshmerga stooges take over Syrian Kurdistan back in 2014, but the sultan wannabe preferred ISIS to all Kurdish factions, which ironically presented the YPG with a golden opportunity to gain American support to fight against ISIS.
A lot assumptions, we will see whos on the shorter end, if you really think that Assad is gonna leave chunks of Syria to Kurds then you are dead wrong.So you're basically admitting that Turkey has betrayed the Syrian opposition and conceded defeat to Assad and the Iranians lol. So Erdogan has conceded that Syria will become Iran's backyard, which ironically goes against all the harsh anti-Iranian comments he made when he was in Bahrain a few weeks ago.
The YPG will be greatly rewarded by Assad/Damascus for making Ankara give up on the FSA. After all, Turkey would've never given up on regime change in Syria if it hadn't been for the expansion of the YPG forces along the Syria-Turkey border, which Assad/Damascus allowed to happen.
By the way, while all of this is taking place, the Iraqi PMU is now threatening to attack Barzanistan and remove the KDP from Yazidi areas.
How does all this help Turkey again?
Erdogan didn't make the right moves. He could've carved pro-Turkish regions out of northern Syria in 2014 by helping Barzani's Rojava Peshmerga against ISIS in Syrian Kurdistan. Instead, he chose to turn a blind eye to ISIS's presence until it was almost completely removed by the anti-Turkish YPG. The problem for you right now is that the YPG has good ties with Damascus and Moscow. Russia is now shaping the events in Syria, and the Russians want Assad to accept YPG autonomy/self-rule.
The YPG will allow a number of government-sanctioned Syrian border guards take over the demarcation line between the Kurds and the Euphrates Shield forces. In other words, if this deal gets finalized, then Turkey won't be able to attack the Kurds of Manbij without first attacking Syrian government forces. And if Turkey does that, then the Russians will blow the Euphrates Shield jihadists to smithereens.
None of this is good for Turkey. It only proves that Turkey wasted its time entering the Azaz-Jarabulus corridor, especially since the latest Russian-brokered deal between the YPG and Damascus will allow the Kurds of Afrin to trade with the Kurds of Manbij and the other cantons.
the show has not begun yet you should wait and see how your communist donkeys are blown upSo you're basically admitting that Turkey has betrayed the Syrian opposition and conceded defeat to Assad and the Iranians lol. So Erdogan has conceded that Syria will become Iran's backyard, which ironically goes against all the harsh anti-Iranian comments he made when he was in Bahrain a few weeks ago.
The YPG will be greatly rewarded by Assad/Damascus for making Ankara give up on the FSA. After all, Turkey would've never given up on regime change in Syria if it hadn't been for the expansion of the YPG forces along the Syria-Turkey border, which Assad/Damascus allowed to happen.
By the way, while all of this is taking place, the Iraqi PMU is now threatening to attack Barzanistan and remove the KDP from Yazidi areas.
How does all this help Turkey again?
Erdogan didn't make the right moves. He could've carved pro-Turkish regions out of northern Syria in 2014 by helping Barzani's Rojava Peshmerga against ISIS in Syrian Kurdistan. Instead, he chose to turn a blind eye to ISIS's presence until it was almost completely removed by the anti-Turkish YPG. The problem for you right now is that the YPG has good ties with Damascus and Moscow. Russia is now shaping the events in Syria, and the Russians want Assad to accept YPG autonomy/self-rule.
The YPG will allow a number of government-sanctioned Syrian border guards take over the demarcation line between the Kurds and the Euphrates Shield forces. In other words, if this deal gets finalized, then Turkey won't be able to attack the Kurds of Manbij without first attacking Syrian government forces. And if Turkey does that, then the Russians will blow the Euphrates Shield jihadists to smithereens.
None of this is good for Turkey. It only proves that Turkey wasted its time entering the Azaz-Jarabulus corridor, especially since the latest Russian-brokered deal between the YPG and Damascus will allow the Kurds of Afrin to trade with the Kurds of Manbij and the other cantons.