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Putin is playing double or tripple game and he is the most clever international player , making fool all . Screwing Iran and Turkey at the same time and again embracing them at the same time .

Thats why those russian dogs will pay dearly if only the Turks had the tools to make that happen with ballistic missiles and nukes.
 
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He does have a point. Everyone is playing a game. Problem is our region is and has always been volatile. And headstrong statesmen have always ended up with too big ambitions. And they end up hurting their own country.
 
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He does have a point. Everyone is playing a game. Problem is our region is and has always been volatile. And headstrong statesmen have always ended up with too big ambitions. And they end up hurting their own country.
The reality of the Region is also... That if you do not impose yourself you are bound to disappear or be used by others...
 
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Thats why those russian dogs will pay dearly if only the Turks had the tools to make that happen with ballistic missiles and nukes.
Honouring your opinion I am disagree with you in some points . If you don't have superiority on conventional weapons you can achieve nothing with nukes . Nukes are only for deterrence . If you don't have superior conventional arms or proper delivery systems you can't use them even if you need to use it. Look at the Afghans or Iranians, how they resist Russia and US .
Turkey has the talent and know how of how to make nukes , just need determination and courage or 'defiance ' to make it . But pre condition is , must have superior conventional arms like hypersonic or supersonic ballastic missiles , ADS , advance air force etc . Without this nukes can do nothing.
 
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The real question is why the Russians let the IAF act with impunity in Syria. :enjoy: @HannibalBarca @500

They don't have much option. Putin won't confront Israel militarily over Iran's presence. There is room in Syria for Israel to neutralise the Iranian entrenchment which is being set up to carry out future attacks on Israel, and room for Russia to operate for Assad. There's a bit of overlap, but enough understanding that both can achieve their goals.

Israel also has the USA on its side.

Turkey used to have the USA on its side before they traded the west/US/Israel for the wonderful allies of Russia, Iran & Qatar :rolleyes1:
 
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They don't have much option. Putin won't confront Israel militarily over Iran's presence. There is room in Syria for Israel to neutralise the Iranian entrenchment which is being set up to carry out future attacks on Israel, and room for Russia to operate for Assad. There's a bit of overlap, but enough understanding that both can achieve their goals.

Israel also has the USA on its side.

Turkey used to have the USA on its side before they traded the west/US/Israel for the wonderful allies of Russia, Iran & Qatar :rolleyes1:


Turkey never had the US on its side, it only realised few years ago. Had turkey realised this truth decades ago may be turkish defence industry might have been much more advanced today because of early adoption
 
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Turkey never had the US on its side, it only realised few years ago. Had turkey realised this truth decades ago may be turkish defence industry might have been much more advanced today because of early adoption

Before Erdogan, Turkey was a solid western ally and in talks to join the EU. Even after relations deteriorated a bit, you were still involved in things like the F-35 programme.

Just admit you made the wrong call and part of the reason is the Islamist nature of Erdogan who favour more Muslim Brotherhood approach than western democracy approach.

Now your soldiers are being killed by your best ally :rolleyes1:
 
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Before Erdogan, Turkey was a solid western ally and in talks to join the EU. Even after relations deteriorated a bit, you were still involved in things like the F-35 programme.

Just admit you made the wrong call and part of the reason is the Islamist nature of Erdogan who favour more Muslim Brotherhood approach than western democracy approach.

Now your soldiers are being killed by your best ally :rolleyes1:
The arab spring changed Erdogans mind about the west and so it did to alot of people. West were showing democracy as way however when time came they were only supporting dictators.

The US is complicit in previous coups in turkey so they were like frenemy to Turkey. They found Erdogan a problem because he wont follow their lead against his countrys interest and he wants turkey to be equal to them. That was too much for west and their media started psychological war first.
Russia is never an ally nor a problem for turkey. Erdogan did not want to see russia the way west wants him to see. The current crises with russia will bring erdogan closer to US no doubt but erdogan will still want his country to be independent and powerful
 
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