Turkish Naval Programs

[dBSPL]

 

[Otonom Piyade]

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A classical display of Turkish Superiority at HAND..

Well done to all who is the team behind in the development and construction of these CORVETTES..

 

[dBSPL]

The new flagship of the Turkish navy will be taken into the naval force's active inventory with a ceremony to be held on Monday.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1644778662464561153

 

[PakAlp]

Turkish drone carrier will be in service soon ..

Great achievement by Turkey but Turkey does need dedicated destroyers, submarines, and aircraft to protect this ship if they will use it for offensive roles. They do have the Tb3 drone and MIUS but are they capable to defend against an aircraft attack.

8 TF2000-class destroyers will indeed be game changer, aswell as 4 3,000ton Istanbul class frigates.

 

[LegionnairE]

8 TF2000-class destroyers will indeed be game changer,

Lol There's no way we can afford that many. If we can get 4 that will be great. 3 is more probable.

TCG Anadolu's sister ship TCG Trakya probably won't be built either. These are incredibly expensive ships.

I just want the Kılıç class FACs to be upgraded. Much, much better use of money. AND I want some MPACs

 

[PakAlp]

Lol There's no way we can afford that many. If we can get 4 that will be great. 3 is more probable.

TCG Anadolu's sister ship TCG Trakya probably won't be built either. These are incredibly expensive ships.

I just want the Kılıç class FACs to be upgraded. Much, much better use of money. AND I want some MPACs

Today they may struggle to order 8 destroyers but it will be available to order around 2027 so around 2030 time it may be different. Turkey wants to project itself as great military power, they are the main military power for the Organization of Turkic States so they definitely need some punching power. They will also export this destroyer so will profit from this expensive project.

By 2030 one aircraft carrier, backed by 4 destroyers, 4 submarines, 4 Istanbul class frigates. A very strong group. The rest of the destroyers, frigates, submarines will stay closer to home.

Turkey also profits from its weapon, they also exported 4 heavily upgraded Ada class frigates to Pakistan, they may export a few destroyers by 2030.

Turkey needs to show its power to protect its allies such as Qatar, Somalia, Sudan and other African nation it trades with.

 

[aziqbal]

Lol There's no way we can afford that many. If we can get 4 that will be great. 3 is more probable.

TCG Anadolu's sister ship TCG Trakya probably won't be built either. These are incredibly expensive ships.

I just want the Kılıç class FACs to be upgraded. Much, much better use of money. AND I want some MPACs

I dont agree

LHD is not expensive its the technical ability to build one which few have

Turkey now has that ability so more can come

DDG is way more expensive but the more you build the cheaper they become

not only that the design cost is the spread over more units its more economical to actually keep building like the Chinese Type 054A programme

its like the Aussies who built only 3 x DDG and they wanted to build more parliament said no later turned out to be the worst decision they ever made

so defiantly I see Turkey expanding its naval fleet

 

[Oublious]

We have 8 Gabya class, they are used as AAW frigate. Four of them are modernized and are not bad at all. But they are 50 years old and we will have to replace them. If we want to be a bleu water navy we will need 8 TF-2000. Sooner ore later we have to have it.

 

[LegionnairE]

I dont agree

LHD is not expensive its the technical ability to build one which few have

Turkey now has that ability so more can come

DDG is way more expensive but the more you build the cheaper they become

not only that the design cost is the spread over more units its more economical to actually keep building like the Chinese Type 054A programme

its like the Aussies who built only 3 x DDG and they wanted to build more parliament said no later turned out to be the worst decision they ever made

so defiantly I see Turkey expanding its naval fleet

it's not just the initial investment, it's the amount of operational costs that matter. Not just the whole Marine battalion stationed on board and air units. We have to create a fleet of ships to protect a LHD. It is extremely costly. You're a fool to say that "it's not expensive"

And in all honesty, Somalia and Sudan means fuckall to Turkey in the grand scheme of things.

 

[aziqbal]

it's not just the initial investment, it's the amount of operational costs that matter. Not just the whole Marine battalion stationed on board and air units. We have to create a fleet of ships to protect a LHD. It is extremely costly. You're a fool to say that "it's not expensive"

And in all honesty, Somalia and Sudan means fuckall to Turkey in the grand scheme of things.

you have terrible language calling people fools when they indicated different opinion and even more name calling

fine example of a loser fanboy who's ego has been butt hurt because of someones else view

and even better example of a brown nose who is always looking to please his white master keep brown nosing Israeli - Hindu lover you are a fine example of a brown noser

 

[Oublious]

TB3 will fly and land on TCG tomorrow, it meens TB3 did fly al l6 months ago .


Look to TB3 on TCG Anadolu, looks terrible dirty...

@dBSPL

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645077136485543939

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645103990944702465

 

[dBSPL]

I dont agree

LHD is not expensive its the technical ability to build one which few have

Turkey now has that ability so more can come

DDG is way more expensive but the more you build the cheaper they become

not only that the design cost is the spread over more units its more economical to actually keep building like the Chinese Type 054A programme

its like the Aussies who built only 3 x DDG and they wanted to build more parliament said no later turned out to be the worst decision they ever made

so defiantly I see Turkey expanding its naval fleet

(The graphic is old, there is a more up-to-date one, but I couldn't find it. For example, the close air defense system will also be indigenous. The ship is planned to have completely domestic production except for the propulsion system, which is one of the factors that add strategic value to the project)

It is not only the production cost of the ships that is low. At the same time, this entire production cost coming from local labor costs and locally produced subsystems.

In other words, for example, 90% of the serial production cost of 500-550 million dollars goes to about 7-8 main contractor companies (mainly Aselsan, the contractor shipyard, and Roketsan in ammunition groups) and about 50 domestic suppliers. The money spent goes directly to local defense industry companies. In other words, the local defense industry is getting stronger and stronger.

Therefore, these cost calculations can never, ever be compared with off-the-shelf or direct end system buys from US,France etc procurement. Because there are incomparable side outcomes and advantages. One of the strategic goals of the Turkish economy is to create one of the strongest defense and aerospace sectors in the world. We can think of this as production-based funding instead of ready cash injection.

It is impossible for hostile countries to compete with this unless they have an equal industrial infrastructure.

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645066976342028289

The Barbarosas are coming back!

 

[LegionnairE]

you have terrible language calling people fools when they indicated different opinion and even more name calling

fine example of a loser fanboy who's ego has been butt hurt because of someones else view

and even better example of a brown nose who is always looking to please his white master keep brown nosing Israeli - Hindu lover you are a fine example of a brown noser

I'm sorry to have offended you but it's the truth. What you were saying was evidently foolish.

(The graphic is old, there is a more up-to-date one, but I couldn't find it. For example, the close air defense system will also be indigenous. The ship is planned to have completely domestic production except for the propulsion system, which is one of the factors that add strategic value to the project)

It is not only the production cost of the ships that is low. At the same time, this entire production cost coming from local labor costs and locally produced subsystems.

In other words, for example, 90% of the serial production cost of 500-550 million dollars goes to about 7-8 main contractor companies (mainly Aselsan, the contractor shipyard, and Roketsan in ammunition groups) and about 50 domestic suppliers. The money spent goes directly to local defense industry companies. In other words, the local defense industry is getting stronger and stronger.

Therefore, these cost calculations can never, ever be compared with off-the-shelf or direct end system buys from US,France etc procurement. Because there are incomparable side outcomes and advantages. One of the strategic goals of the Turkish economy is to create one of the strongest defense and aerospace sectors in the world. We can think of this as production-based funding instead of ready cash injection.

It is impossible for hostile countries to compete with this unless they have an equal industrial infrastructure.

Even if we have the strongest defence industry in the world and everything was %100 Turkish, we can't ignore the burden we're placing on the taxpayer especially in a time of such economic turmoil.

Which is why I want to focus on the modernization of smaller ships that can help us project much more power for the same amount of money. Kılıç modernisation and MPAC procurement will put enormous pressure on our regional rivals.

 

[dBSPL]