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Friends There is a very good opportunity for us to expect that we might be able to play on the design of class I (there were rumors that production slowed down.) What is the primary need of our navy now? Air defense frigate. So we'll wait for the first ship of this class at least 2027. But in the current conjuncture, in the absence of such a ship in 7 years, do we lose a lot? Yeah. Did you know that we can close this gap with a small cost increase and workload?



So why ?





Class I is a ship that we can call a long-range anti-surface warfare frigate. But thanks to the operational flexibility of the Vls and advanced versatile radars, a single ship can do most of the offshore / anti-air / anti-surface / anti-submarine missions sometimes. For example, Fremm, Belharra, Sigma Series and German ships developed over Meko are examples. On behalf of both the above-mentioned need and the export potential of the ship, we can take this ship to a much higher level than expected with a few minor changes.



So How?


We can achieve this with 2 changes;

1- Chafrad Çfr S band version change with Smart-S Mk2;

As we know, Smart-s is a radar that is loved by the navy but is a if we compared to the old ones, but in real terms in the near future navy environment. Çfr is a multi-functional x band radar called Çfr. The range is called 150 km, but the officials in the ideals implied that there could be more. Even if it is 150 km, we already have this radar radar If we operate in the S band (which is possible with this software)like smart-s mk2, sea fire 500 from bellhara, fremm in herakles and so on., the radar will be able to operate at much longer ranges than the range in the x band.

The reason why it can reach long ranges is that the s band needs much less power than the x band and cannot be sure of its low frequency. Likewise, the US in zumwallt AN / SPY-3 radar x band AN / SPY-4 S-band long-range planning to use AN / SPY-4 to cancel the AN / SPY-3 software has added S and x / s double band has chosen to use it. If a radar had no longer range in the S-band than the X-band, we would have called a ship like Abd Zumwaltt to install a 320 km long-range radar, which is the x-band range of AN / SPY-3, and that is unacceptable. Moreover, the Sea Fire 500 is a high-performance radar with a quadratic module area but s tape. And all of the above mentioned radars with the help of fire control radar Aster-30 and so on. long range air defense missiles.

Therefore, if we use the S band mode of Çafrad çfr and Aseksan Akr-D Block-2 120 km x band fire control radar to the İ class, we gain Long range Air Defence capability to this ship.




2-) Increasing the Vls Capacity to 32 or at least 24;


As we know, it is obvious that even a Milgemin can fit 8xvls in front of a ship that is 13 meters taller than class i, 32x vls can be placed in front of both models and drawings. We stayed but only 24x tactical vls. That would be enough. With 8 Quadpack features, we can carry 32 essm 16 and sm-2 / aster-30 / Trench / 9m96e2 whichever we want and adapt to radar. And so we get a light air defense frigate.

When it is considered in 16 atmaca capable of attacking within the ship, the ship will be Light Tf-2000. When the Tf-2000s entered the inventory, long-range air defense missiles were removed from these ships, and they were deployed for 16 vls quadpack 64 essm / g-40 and 8x vls anti-submarine weapons by placing Vl-asroc or local equivalent anti-submarine weapons. we can translate an asw / asuw escort. The unit cost of the ship increases by a maximum of 100 euros to an average of 50 million euros, but still remains a cost effective ship.

This is very, very important for us, given that at least 2 peer-to-peer buildings are provided when the first TF-2000 is included in the inventory.
I still dont know why Turkey calculated only 16 VLS in the this.. They might give huge attention to Greek subs and doesnt want to increase the size and noise of the ship, but you have milgem corvettes for that purpose.
 
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This is not change the fact that they are using their twitter account as a clickbait tool!
 
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What were they going to use it for? As a result, they earn money through rating. It's none of my business. Nobody's forcing me to read the news.
 
so indigenous anti ships are active on Ada class ? or just one>
 
so indigenous anti ships are active on Ada class ? or just one>


Only Ada class will be using Atmaca, we have a lot of Harpoon missiles. When they end ther lifespan, Atmace will replace them.
 
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Bro's we heard news about Tf-2000 will have 60 kw laser ciws and şahi 209 or aslesan tufan railgun. We can see a ship have a enough space for 4 laser ciws (2 of replace for phalanx cies and 2 of two sides back of the mid-vls back.) also one railgun for replace the main 127 gun.



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Also we make a milden submarines for make a escort tf-2000's



But aip and diesel subs not a effective for escort to Tf-2000 kind destroyer/cruiser who can be have long ranges. On the other hand if we not have a mini-nuclear reactor for tf-2000 we cannot operate lasers and railgun independent.



So we need mini nuclear reactor for this two platform. I'm not saying make a nuclear weapon just reactor like brazilians want a buy for his subs.
 
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Bro's we heard news about Tf-2000 will have 60 kw laser ciws and şahi 209 or aslesan tufan railgun. We can see a ship have a enough space for 4 laser ciws (2 of replace for phalanx cies and 2 of two sides back of the mid-vls back.) also one railgun for replace the main 127 gun.



milden.jpg






Also we make a milden submarines for make a escort tf-2000's



But aip and diesel subs not a effective for escort to Tf-2000 kind destroyer/cruiser who can be have long ranges. On the other hand if we not have a mini-nuclear reactor for tf-2000 we cannot operate lasers and railgun independent.



So we need mini nuclear reactor for this two platform. I'm not saying make a nuclear weapon just reactor like brazilians want a buy for his subs.
What happened to the project with Turkish AIP? they said it will be ready in 2023 and can make the sub to be underwater for 6 month.. ?
 
2019050603123719_srq3tm7lh53fs7b6dj9qou1tj71.jpg




Bro's we heard news about Tf-2000 will have 60 kw laser ciws and şahi 209 or aslesan tufan railgun. We can see a ship have a enough space for 4 laser ciws (2 of replace for phalanx cies and 2 of two sides back of the mid-vls back.) also one railgun for replace the main 127 gun.



milden.jpg






Also we make a milden submarines for make a escort tf-2000's



But aip and diesel subs not a effective for escort to Tf-2000 kind destroyer/cruiser who can be have long ranges. On the other hand if we not have a mini-nuclear reactor for tf-2000 we cannot operate lasers and railgun independent.



So we need mini nuclear reactor for this two platform. I'm not saying make a nuclear weapon just reactor like brazilians want a buy for his subs.
Based on TN's procedures ,and overally Navies's aproach in the world i dont assume they would replace conventional weapons by cutting edge -new, and unreliable weapons ( such as rail-guns ,laser ciws) . In Turkish Navy's case, they are always the latest one of adapting new systems after its matured enough by Land and Aerial usage. (see: Umtas, Atmaca -matured after SOM- , Korkut-D -following maturization of Korkut-L - ). Replacing 127 mm cannon ? That is impossible(since,its simply last line of defence for a vessel which needs to operate flawlessly in most of conditions), especially while 5th generation fighters are even equipped with cannons.

Moreover , if TN is foreseeing any adaption of Railguns or LCIWS , they would firstly change their propulsion system design, there would be an increase in electrical consumption and conventional systems will not be efficient. If we hear any clues about CODLAG like systems (where all systems but Gas turbines are used as generators and propulsion is provided via electrical engines and turbine, or IEP for all electrical drive) then we may assume of integration of such weapons past 2030.
TF-2000 would be a whole new system for TN, assuming it will be commissioned in 2025-6 ,there is a need at least 3-4 years until crew and TN has learnt to use such a system only.
There is no need for nuclear engine on a Combatant (Even US has abondoned the plan), Unless we achieve a technology to put EM shield around them.

The new era would be unmanned systems in large vessels ( US has already done orders for Unmanned LCS and submarines) and we are lagging behind in that case. What Aselsan does with boats are nothing when compared to a whole frigate.

The keys of this text:
CODLAG, conservative approach of TN (or Navies around world), Unnecessity of nuclear power for Combatants,Unmanned combatants.

As for MILDEN, prior to a Sub, we need a mini-sub design just like what Koreans (S) has designed.

Tf-2000 will have 60 kw laser ciws and şahi 209 or aslesan tufan railgun. We can see a ship have a enough space for 4 laser ciws (2 of replace for phalanx cies and 2 of two sides back of the mid-vls back.) also one railgun for replace the main 127 gun
Who has told those news?
 
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