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@UkroTurk bro your posts are very interesting and I really like the idea's I actually had alot of similar ones. I think mounting mlrs on container ships would be a good idea, that type of thing.

But I have to share a joke with everyone though, please don't be offended:

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@Hakan Welcome back Hakan. Your ideas obviously inspired the Chinese, that's exactly what they try.

PLA navy has also conducted trials of outfitting container ships with artillery guns


If China Attacks Taiwan: Military Strategy, Politics and Economics - Google Books

The People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) is looking for new ways to expand its maritime logistical capabilities. While the PLAN has focused on both denying enemy naval forces access to waters near China, as well as operating in said water, China needs a significant maritime transport capability to move forces and materials that can decisively influence events on lands separated from the Mainland by oceans. This can be achieved with both specialized platforms, as well as through ships taken up from trade (STUFT), which is the practice of naval forces adding merchant marine ships to their order of battle in wartime.

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Roll-on/roll-off (RO/RO) carriers are especially interesting given that while they normally transport cars and other automobiles, which drive onto and drive off of them at ports. As shown by U.S military practice during the Gulf Wars, RO/RO carriers can be easily mobilized to dock at a captured or friendly port to quickly drop off a battalion from its ramps. If Chinese amphibious or special forces capture an enemy port, a RO/RO carrier could be brought in to quickly disperse mechanized infantry to seize the surrounding city in a rapid campaign. RO/RO carriers would also allow for the speedy deployment of follow on logistic equipment, and anti-access systems like surface to air missiles. \While China's global economic and infrastructure projects are primarily motivated by civilian concerns, it would be likely that the PLA would mobilize them for wartime usage.

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@Hakan

Dear Hakan. I am not offended.:) everything all right. Thanks for your interest.
But if you had knew about Russian Antiship Delphins, you wouldnt have posted it.
Bizim ulkemizdede milli kahramanimiz olan bir yunus vardi. Sinop aciklarinda gezinen degisik bir yunus vardi.
Millet bunu okyanustan yolunu sasirmis Sinop'a gelmis saniyordu. Oysa Kirim, Sivastopol'de, Antiship saldiri amacli yunus egitim tesisleri var. Sovyetler yunuslara bomba baglayip, gemilere yolluyormus.
Su anda gunumuzde cocuklara showlar yapiyor bu emektarlar:)

In the 2. WW, USSR used the dogs against tanks.
Bu kopekler Alman tanklari'nin kabusu olmus. Bunlar yuzunden tanklarin etrafinda piyadeler yurumeye baslamis.

Military dolphin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Anti-tank dog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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@UkroTurk

There was also a Beluga

All About the Military Dolphins of the US (And Now Russia)

In what is easily one of the stranger twists in the military takeover of Crimea, the Russians have seized control of Ukraine's navy dolphin fleet. Yes, dolphins. The annals of dolphin military history is actually teeming with improbable tales, so let this be your guide to the cetacean Cold War.

The "dolphin arms race" started all the way back in the 1960s, when the US and the Soviet Union were competing in just about every realm of military technology possible. Amidst all the secrecy, here is what we know about each side's trained dolphin capabilities.

Soviets Spent $1 Billion on "Unconventional" Science and Mind Control
Not to be outdone by U.S. military research that inspired men to stare at goats, the Soviets also…Read more

The American Dolphins
Half a century ago, the Navy's Marine Mammal Program began training a whole menagerie of dolphins, beluga whales, sea lions, and other sea creatures for underwater tasks—even sharks with military brain implants have been considered, the latter quite recently. Of course, it was the agile and intelligent dolphin that showed some of the most promise. In Vietnam, the Navy had five dolphins that patrolled the waters around ships, alerting sailors to swimming enemies trying to plant a bomb.


Trained dolphins are also no stranger to the Persian Gulf. In the 1980s, six dolphins patrolled the harbor in Bahrain, escorting US flagships and Kuwaiti oil tankers. When the US was worried that Iran might try to block a strategic strait to the Persian Gulf in 2012, retired general Tim Keating mentioned our dolphins again.

The Navy now keeps several dozen dolphins off the coast of San Diego, training them to detect mines. "Apparently they're taught to hunt for mines and drop acoustic transponders nearby. Then, the Navy use the information to identify mines and send out human divers to detonate them," Gizmodoreported at the time.


The Dolphin Marines Roll Out to Iran's Most Important Stretch of Water
The US Military invests billions of dollars in technology. But to keep the Strait of Hormuz —…Read more

The Soviet/Russian Dolphins
In additional to being able to detect mines like their American counterparts, Soviet dolphins were allegedly trained to attack divers with harpoons or knives attached to their backs. They also acted as marine kamikazes carrying mines that would rub up on the keels of enemy vessels. "Those dolphins could even distinguish between the sound of the propeller of foreign submarine and a Soviet one," according to Viktor Baranets, who worked in the Soviet military.

Soviet dolphin training took place in Crimea, so Ukraine inherited the dolphin fleet after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. With time, the military program was largely disbanded. Many of these dolphins were sold to aquariums around the world. In 1999, some of these last dolphins were sold to Iran because their trainers had no money to feed them anymore.

But, in recent years, Ukraine had shown interest in reviving the program, evenannouncing in 2012 an ambitious plan to train killer dolphins with knives on their heads. But that never seems to have gotten off the ground because they were planning to disband the dolphin program this April—that is, until the Russians decided to take over, intending to revitalize it. "The work will save unique scientific developments that were abandoned due to Ukraine's reluctance to finance the research in the field," boasted Pravda.

Escape of the Killer Dolphins?
If anything better captivates the public imagination than the idea of "killer dolphins," it's "escaped killer dolphins." Last year, reports emerged that Ukrainian dolphins trained to "attack enemy combat swimmers using special knives or pistols fixed to their heads" had escaped into the Black Sea. That, in the end, turned out to be all a hoax.

But careful chroniclers of dolphin military history might have found parallels with the tale of American dolphins escaping during Hurricane Katrina. These toxic dart-carrying dolphins were supposedly to trained to kill underwater spies—or, given their escapee status, unsuspecting divers in the Gulf of Mexico. The US military has vehemently these dolphin assassins existed or escaped.

As outlandish as the details are, these escaped dolphin stories have a kernel of weird truth at their core, which is the truth that even dolphins have been drafted into military service. Flipper may not be so friendly. [The Atlantic,National Journal, PBS Frontline]

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Please read my post, think thank is always good

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“Sea power has always been at the core of the global system and ensures our wealth and prosperity,” Admiral Bülent Bostanoğlu told the Sea Power and Security Symposium at the Naval War College.

It is the first time the college hosted such a symposium to discuss cooperation and coordination among nations to deal with emerging threats and risks in today's world.

More than 1,000 participants from 43 countries participated in the conference.

Turkish admiral says states must 'work together'
 
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"Ah, the last time we saw you you looked so much older
Your famous blue raincoat was torn at the shoulder..." Leonard Cohen
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Although it is 3 weeks old, I think its worth reading because this happens rare, bearing in mind that the force command had openly stated in its national policy paper ('Turkish Naval Strategy') that it plans to acquire long range maritime patrol aircraft which the given specifications were directly addressing the P-8 Poseidon.

VP-5 completes Exercise Doğu Akdeniz 2017


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    Combat Air Crew (CAC) 3 of Patrol Squadron (VP) 5 prepare to give a familiarization flight on the P-8 Poseidon to Turkish Naval Forces during the Turkish-led anti-submarine (ASW) exercise, Doğu Akdeniz while on detachment in Dalaman Turkey. U.S. 6th Fleet, headquartered in Naples, Italy, conducts the full spectrum of joint and naval operations, often in concert with allied, joint and interagency partners, in order to advance U.S. national interests and security and stability in Europe and Africa.
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VP-5 Public Affairs

From Nov. 8-11, the “Mad Foxes” of Patrol Squadron (VP) 5 sent a P-8A Poseidon and Combat Air Crew (CAC) 3 to Dalaman, Turkey to participate in the Turkish-led exercise, Doğu Akdeniz 2017. This navy exercise incorporated multiple anti-submarine warfare (ASW) flights and proved to be an excellent opportunity to improve the interoperability and professional relationships between U.S. and Turkish forces.

Doğu Akdeniz kicked off Nov. 9, in the eastern Mediterranean Sea with several dynamic ASW events. This was a bi-lateral exercise and included many Turkish navy assets such as Sikorsky helicopters, the Persuader maritime patrol and transport aircraft, and a Turkish Type 209 submarine. The U.S. Navy provided the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Donald Cook (DDG 75) and VP-5’s P-8A maritime, patrol and reconnaissance aircraft to accomplish this exercise. Throughout these events, U.S. and Turkey aircrafts and ships were partnered against a Turkish submarine.
“We were able to give a few Turkish naval aviators and operators familiarization flights and show them how we operate as a crew,” said AWO2 Stephane Castaneda. “They were noticeably impressed by the latest avionics and systems to the maritime patrol and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance mission.”
This was the first time the P-8A aircraft has participated in this exercise and CAC-3 was able to showcase the P-8A’s long-range endurance and advanced ASW tactics. The crew operated and gained invaluable training tracking the Turkish submarine alongside the Donald Cook and Sikorsky helicopters. CAC-3 welcomed and showcased the P-8A to Turkish navy passengers while flying out of Dalaman.
Doğu Akdeniz was successful in improving combined combat capability and strengthening relations among Turkey and the United States. The exercise further advanced the security, safety and stability of U.S. 6th Fleet.
“I was proud of my crew that worked seamlessly together in a foreign environment to accomplish the tasking for the bi-lateral exercise” said Lt. Jake Daly, the officer in charge of VP-5 while in Dalaman. “We were fortunate to participate in the exercise and look forward to any opportunity to further advance NATO interoperability and fine-tune our ASW skills as a crew.”

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What do you mean ? It's rare that we train with the US or rare that we gain almost immediate access to something like P-8A.
 
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What do you mean ? It's rare that we train with the US or rare that we gain almost immediate access to something like P-8A.

Nope. It is rare that during a live naval combat exercise, our personnel boards on the aircraft of participating nations during the flight, instead of boarding during visits or after/before the exercise. My point is that P-8 Poseidon procurement might be coming up in the future.
 
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Nope. It is rare that during a live naval combat exercise, our personnel boards on the aircraft of participating nations during the flight, instead of boarding during visits or after/before the exercise. My point is that P-8 Poseidon procurement might be coming up in the future.

If you meet Ergin send a greeting from me.
P-8 is a dream, no chanche. Maybe we can convert a commercial platform with own sensors .

That's US policy

http://ussanews.com/News1/2017/12/19/u-s-embassy-in-turkey-no-visa-appointments-until-2019/
 
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