Turkish Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler: We are considering purchasing 40 Eurofighter Typhoons

[LegionnairE]

Russian and Chinese products dont suit us. They don't understand this.

We have been GE's largest subcontractor for 50 years. We learned a lot from them. If we move on to China and Russia now, what we have learned will be garbage.

I've been saying this for 3 years now,

EF-2000 is the only logical choice.

 

[Hold the door]

I've been saying this for 3 years now,

EF-2000 is the only logical choice.

Maybe if we had applied 5 years ago, we could have gotten a Eurofighter, but now we won't be able to get

Our only hope is to ease relations with the West again and stay calm until KAAN arrives. Only this way we can buy f110 and f404 engines.

 

[LegionnairE]

Maybe if we had applied 5 years ago, we could have gotten a Eurofighter, but now we won't be able to get

Our only hope is to ease relations with the West again and stay calm until KAAN arrives. Only this way we can buy f110 and f404 engines.

I remember back in the day, there were Eurofighter ads in defence magazines, they were aggressively marketing it to Turkey, offering to share full source codes lol

 

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Lol within 100 km patriot have the capability to intercept AWACS it has a big RCS and pac 3 AESA range is well above 200km to 250 km

AWACS is not stupid to enter conflict zone
and 100-150 km is not enough for AWACS killer capability

for example
Turkish Air Force Boeing E-7T AEWC with 600 km MESA Radar can detect Greek F-16V and RAFALE from 350+ km away even over Athens from Turkish Airspace ( from safe zone )

and According to Hellenic Air Force official website , Greek PATRIOTs with a search radar range of 170 km and maximum engagement range of 150 km

https://www.haf.gr/en/equipment/patriot-pac-iii/

on the other hand , Turkiye bought S400 with 380 km 40N6E Missile for AWACS killer capability

so NATO's PATRIOT and SAMP-T dont have AWACS killer capability

Big bird radar is only for big RCS targets like ballistic missiles and have much less range to detect Fighter Jets

BIG BIRD Radar can detect an AWACS from 340 km away
and 380 km 40N6E Missile is enough for AWACS killer capability

 

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Depending on the launch parameters it could be more.
And they have more than 90

Greek SCALP Missiles were limited with range of under 300 km
because of MTCR agreement

and I am talking about current inventory with 90 SCALP Missiles
Greece ordered more SCALP Missiles but not delivered yet

Turkiye produce 485 SOM Missiles but now about 250 SOM in inventory


as of 2023
Greece : 90 SCALP air launched Cruise Missiles
Turkiye : 250 SOM , 48 SLAM-ER , 95 POPEYE air launched Cruise Missiles

also 1.000+ TRG-300 , TRG-230 , ATACMS , YILDIRIM , BORA , TAYFUN to hit PATRIOTs in Skyros and S300s in Crete

even I am not talking about upcoming long range kamikaze Drones
-- 500 km AZAB
-- 700 km SUPER SIMSEK
-- 800 km KARGI
also 280 km KARA-ATMACA ground based Cruise Missile on the way


even within a few years
We can arm 300 UCAVs with 1.500 guided munitions , mini Cruise Missiles and kamikaze Drones to hit Greek PATRIOTs ,,, even Hellenic Navy

-- 150 km CAKIR
-- 150+ km IHA-230
-- 180+ km KUZGUN-TJ
-- 200 km SIMSEK
-- 250 km KEMANKES


10 years ago Turkiye had nothing except HARM , SLAM-ER , POPEYE , ATACMS , YILDIRIM

Now Turkiye has its own weapons to change the game against Greece

TRG-300 , BORA , TAYFUN , SOM , ATMACA , IHA-230 , CAKIR , KUZGUN-TJ , KGK-LR , AZAB , KARGI , SIMSEK , SUPER SIMSEK , KEMANKES

also CENK , GEZGIN , AKBABA , RAMJET powered supersonic Missiles under development


Turkiye becomes the 2nd strongest military power in NATO for conventional Missile fire power after USA

 

[White and Green with M/S]

AWACS is not stupid to enter conflict zone
and 100-150 km is not enough for AWACS killer capability

for example
Turkish Air Force Boeing E-7T AEWC with 600 km MESA Radar can detect Greek F-16V and RAFALE from 350+ km away even over Athens from Turkish Airspace ( from safe zone )

and According to Hellenic Air Force official website , Greek PATRIOTs with a search radar range of 170 km and maximum engagement range of 150 km

https://www.haf.gr/en/equipment/patriot-pac-iii/

on the other hand , Turkiye bought S400 with 380 km 40N6E Missile for AWACS killer capability

so NATO's PATRIOT and SAMP-T dont have AWACS killer capability




BIG BIRD Radar can detect an AWACS from 340 km away
and 380 km 40N6E Missile is enough for AWACS killer capability

You're talking about you don't know AWACS only killed by long range BVR not by SAMs and such a fast missiles (machine 5 and above) is useless against slow moving AWACS and also to AWACS has a comprehensive EW package to cut off the data links to S400 radars and Its missiles

And same goes to Rafales and f16vs have a latest EW systems ( they have multiple EW systems) you don't know to deceive/decept your old E-7T as well as your out of this universe S400 radars

And what a stupid logic you have that your old F16s can deceive/decept Greek latest f16vs and RAFALE AESAs as well as their patriot SAMs AESAs but their latest f16vs and RAFALE can't deceive/decept your old AWACS and unproven/untested S400 radars

I think you have false sense egoistic superiority over Greek military tactics and doctrine which is bad for you and for Turkiye

And don't underestimate your enemy

 

[mulj]

Doesn't have to.

If you have to retreat all your squadrons to Diyarbakır, you're already fucked. We don't have F-35, we don't have F-15, only 30 Block50+ F-16s have the CFT, that has decent range.



Altay Tank was supposed to enter service in 2016, It's almost 2024 and we still don't have it.


To sit and wait is a big risk.

You are not sitting and waiting, it is even bigger risk to deepen your dependency on western expensive and stringed weapon systems.

 

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I think you have false sense egoistic superiority over Greek military tactics and doctrine which is bad for you and for Turkiye

And don't underestimate your enemy

You are so pathetic and you create false sense egoistic story


what a silly post with full of lies and fake capability

Hellenic Air Force EMB-145-H AEWC doesnt have EW capability to cut off the data links to S400 radars and Its missiles

stop lying and stop create fake story

You're talking about you don't know AWACS only killed by long range BVR not by SAMs and such a fast missiles (machine 5 and above) is useless against slow moving AWACS and also to AWACS has a comprehensive EW package to cut off the data links to S400 radars and Its missiles

Stop creating false sense egoistic story
what a sill boy who says S400 Missile is useless against AWACS
go and enter firing range of S400 and see what will happen to AWACS


And Greece only can dream about these technologies

Turkiye has its own EW System called REDET-II with range of 200km

And soon HAVASOJ airborne stand off jammer with range of 400km

Only Turkiye and Israel in the region

 

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And same goes to Rafales and f16vs have a latest EW systems ( they have multiple EW systems) you don't know to deceive/decept your old E-7T as well as your out of this universe S400 radars

What a silly Boy who says E-7T AEWC is old


E7 AEWC is the most modern AWACS in NATO ( Introduction : November 2012 )
with the latest technologies including AESA Radar with a maximum range of over 600 km (look-up mode)

and the radar antenna array is also doubled as an ELINT array, with a maximum range of over 850 km at 30,000 feet altitude


4 Boeing E-7T AEWCs entered service in 2015 for the Turkish Air Force ... you ignorant Troll

TOPIC IS OVER with You who is trolling and lying

 

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Ignorant fantasy Boys


learn about Turkish Military Technologies and come to babbling

Turkiye spent $3,9 billion for F-16 CCIP modernization as of 2015

163 CCIP modernized F-16s can use E-7T AEWC's AESA Radar via link16 datalink to detect enemy Fighter Jets from 350+ km away and to guide 120 km AIM-120C7 air to air missiles in BVR combat

Go and learn about network centric warfare
( Turkiye spent $5,4 billion as of 2015 for network centric warfare capability )

ignorant Boys still dreaming with 12 Greek F-16V ....


also 60 Turkish F-16Cs equipped with SPEWS-II EW Suite ... ( Turkish-British technology )

 

[LegionnairE]

You are not sitting and waiting, it is even bigger risk to deepen your dependency on western expensive and stringed weapon systems.

No, it's the exact opposite. If we develop these relations further we might sell TFX Kaan to UK in not so distant future.



Partnership on a future Sixth gen. aircraft is already being talked about. This will reduce our dependency on the US immensely.

 

[mulj]

No, it's the exact opposite. If we develop these relations further we might sell TFX Kaan to UK in not so distant future.

You are delusional if you think that you can sell your fighter to england before usa.
Kaan is destined to be muslim states fighter and that market is untaped and lucrative in all spheres.
Soon you realize that Turkiye has only formal and transactional connection with west better for you tought process and logic.

 

[LegionnairE]

You are delusional if you think that you can sell your fighter to england before usa.
Kaan is destined to be muslim states fighter and that market is untaped and lucrative in all spheres.
Soon you realize that Turkiye has only formal and transactional connection with west better for you tought process and logic.

Look, I have nothing against "muslim states" but most of them hate us and those that don't hate us don't have any money either.


Kaan has different strengths vs. F35, and with the quality we're going for, any state in the world, not just muslim states will want it.

It all depends on our foreign policy.


The bigger problem is, self reliance is costly. All this effort going into military projects could instead go into making civilian airliners. If Turkey made the next Boeing 737 or A320 of the world, we would be swimming in cash. But we have to be self reliant because we don't have any reliable partners. That has to change.

 

[PakistaniandProud]

No, it's the exact opposite. If we develop these relations further we might sell TFX Kaan to UK in not so distant future.

Do you honestly believe that the west would buy Turkish products? They needed Turkish drones for Ukraine only to stop the Russian advance. But that is it.

The west will never buy Turkish KAAN when it comes into play.

Look, I have nothing against "muslim states" but most of them hate us and those that don't hate us don't have any money either.

Most of the WEST hates you. More so than Muslims!

 

[MMM-E]

No, it's the exact opposite. If we develop these relations further we might sell TFX Kaan to UK in not so distant future.

If The UK doesnt have TEMPEST project

The west will never buy Turkish KAAN when it comes into play.

Not West
but only USA , The UK , France , Germany which have their own projects


but KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet will be unique in the WEST

when KIZILELMA is on the market, the world will show interest in Turkiye's KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet