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How can you Indians support a terrorist state like Israel? India really has to make a choice either you are friends with Israel, whose influence is falling drastically every year, or Turkey whose influence and power is growing immensely every year.
You blame the Turkish government which tried to mediate Israel and her "enemies" for years, but at the end of the day, who broke that mediation process and back stabbed Turkey at final stages of an agreement with Syria in early 2009? After all this efforts, should Turkey just get back to its corner and tell those negotiating parties who put their trust in Turkey, that "Sorry, we failed because Israel did this and that, we cant break any level of friendship, because, we are super cool friends with Israel and we have a big uncle that watches from up". Any self-respecting country would react the same way Turkey did.
Friendship with Iran and Israel was dictated by USA, as there was dictator King, who didn't listen any of its subjects demands. Kinda similar to what was the situation in ME. And look what's happening around the region right now.
Enemies of Israel is not gonna go away when you bomb them to the ground. With all the might of USA war machine, US had to integrate those which US called some years ago as "terrorist organizations" (excluding Al-Qaeda) in Iraq to political arena in order to establish a stability and not to marginalize those militant groups. Hamas, according to US and Israel, and several other countries, is a terrorist organization. But Tony Blair, head of ME Quartet, said that Hamas needs to be contacted for future of Palestinian state, as its and element of Palestinian society whether you like it or not. FYI, I'm not defending any of the violent acts of Hamas against unarmed Israeli civilians, but what I'm trying to say is, Hamas is more than a "terrorist" entity. There is also another side of the medallion.
PLO was a terrorist organization before 90's. What made PLO to officially not called as "terrorists" was those backdoor communications, behind the doors diplomacy. So Turkey does all of this for the stability of the region, because unstable ME economically is not that beneficial to us. This is why Turkey tried to connect those potentially problematic countries with economic ties. With economic integration, government thought, those countries would not act in a violent behavior. It is a long term goal, even if you see problems in all of those ME countries that Turkey tried to apply this policy, in the long run this will greatly effect the region. Just look at what Germany and France did after WW2.
So, it feels like a hypocrisy when you claim that Turkish government just wanted to make those "friendships" for the purpose of hindering Israel's safety or stability.
Let me remind you what happened:You blame the Turkish government which tried to mediate Israel and her "enemies" for years, but at the end of the day, who broke that mediation process and back stabbed Turkey at final stages of an agreement with Syria in early 2009?
Alas usage of women for terror is not humor but reality:poor jews.. how kind of people can fire on you.. innocents like you
israeli soldiers ..and sense of humor
How can you Indians support a terrorist state like Israel? India really has to make a choice either you are friends with Israel, whose influence is falling drastically every year, or Turkey whose influence and power is growing immensely every year.
We are friends with Israel because they want to be friends with us.
Friendship is mutual. What can an increasingly islamic turkey give to us?
And we cant be your friends at the expense of existing friends.
I dont know what isolation are you talking about. Israel was accepted into OECD recently. One who is isoleted is Davutoglu's best friend:Are you aware that India considers Turkey to be one of her most important allies & that our diplomatic core is present in India trying to find a permanent peace between India & Pak? While Israel is increasingly becoming isolated and unable to exert outside political will (with the strong exception of Germany (due to their actions in World War 2) & the USA).
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I dont know what isolation are you talking about. Israel was accepted into OECD recently. One who is isoleted is Davutoglu's best friend:
I have no issue with Govt of India trying to be friendly with your govt. I think it is natural that India would like partner who are like minded. But why do you want us to ditch Israel. When we can have good relation with Iran, why not Israel. You have problem with them,deal with it.Are you aware that India considers Turkey to be one of her most important allies & that our diplomatic core is present in India trying to find a permanent peace between India & Pak? While Israel is increasingly becoming isolated and unable to exert outside political will (with the strong exception of Germany (due to their actions in World War 2) & the USA).
I understand how India & Israel are cooperating in the field of military technology but do not let that blind you from the truth. If you also believe Turkey is becoming an Islamist country then I am sorry but you are just quoting the Orientalist view of the cultural other (not Western) which is factually & morally wrong on many levels.
FYI Islamist & other countries that have religion as their core, focus internally to seed their society and institutions with religious and dictatorial dogma this leaves them thankfully with little international political will & capability (case in point: Iran), the actions of Turkey therefore are not that of a Islamist country but a country that is becoming increasingly active on the international political scene who is also shaking her hands at the bigotry of the Western world.
Truth hurts? I repeat again: there is no any sign of Israel's isolation. Only one who is really isolated is your new best friend.His post has nothing to do with syria. When s*it happens in syria, does that give you right to do the same ?
What a pathetic way of distorting a subject.
Take a closer look at Obama's speech. Even your BFF considers Israel is isolated. No country but US would support you in UN. Distortion of the truth hurts the most oneself, not the truth itself.Truth hurts? I repeat again: there is no any sign of Israel's isolation. Only one who is really isolated is your new best friend.
I dont know what isolation are you talking about. Israel was accepted into OECD recently. One who is isoleted is Davutoglu's best friend:
I just saw standing ovations for Netanbyahu in congress.Take a closer look at Obama's speech. Even your BFF considers Israel is isolated. No country but US would support you in UN. Distortion of the truth hurts the most oneself, not the truth itself.
You were talking that Israel is increasingly isolated. Not so long time ago China and Central Asia did not recognize Israel at all. Today we have full diplomatic relationships, large trade and excellent cooperation.Tell us then how much influence does Israel have outside of the Western world? I doubt I need to tell how important new players are in the emerging multi polar world.
Tell us how much influence Israel has in the Muslim world (1.5 billion people).
Tell us the same in regards to China, Russia & the Turkic world of Central Asia.