Turkish Air Defence Programs

[LegionnairE]

It's not actually. This tender was around for decades, which will finally be done in few years.

yes but I thought Russia would have some of these laying around in storage.

 

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yes but I thought Russia would have some of these laying around in storage.

Russians aren't dumb enough to give us their version, we'll be getting export versions.

 

[Blackwolf12]

At this point I really don’t see the point, by then who knows how far along Hisar-O will be.

 

[u.MP]

yes but I thought Russia would have some of these laying around in storage.

Maybe they do. The most important reason for the delivery date is probably discouraging political conflicts from the Turkish gov. side, until the delivery has been made. Some sort of insurance against political "disobedience" if you will.

 

[Saithan]

No, they don't just send their own inventory. They'll give us the export version and in the meantime work on other projects and play nice etc. They're halfway done with the pipeline project that will provide EU with naturalgas, and they got other involvements. So they have the prospect of earning a lot of money. I think perhaps our side is always using these involvements to ensure cooperation on Syria.

 

[kartal1]

Anyone with news about the Turkish version of Iron Dome "Golden Cage" (Altin Kafes)?

 

[CAN_TR]

Anyone with news about the Turkish version of Iron Dome "Golden Cage" (Altin Kafes)?

I've heard that they want to start 2020/2021 with the development.

 

[Bismarck]

Russians aren't dumb enough to give us their version, we'll be getting export versions.

Can you explain what an export version in detail is?

 

[what]

Can you explain what an export version in detail is?

A downgraded variant for export.

 

[Bismarck]

A downgraded variant for export.

Less range? Less altitude? Less accurate? Less speed? Or maybe with a kill switch button? Never saw an evidence of a downgraded export variant.

 

[Hexciter]

Less range? Less altitude? Less accurate? Less speed? Or maybe with a kill switch button? Never saw an evidence of a downgraded export variant.

A variant which is devoid from non-exportable components/parts

 

[what]

Less range? Less altitude? Less accurate? Less speed? Or maybe with a kill switch button? Never saw an evidence of a downgraded export variant.

I think the Russian SAMs have different names and numbers for export but I dont know if they are really dumbed down.

 

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HISAR-O

HISAR-A

Vertical Firing Test Accomplished in “Hisar” Projects
In the December issue of the Aselsan magazine, it was announced that the subsystem integration test activities within the scope of “Hisar” Projects have been completed and system level development and test process has been initiated
Within the scope of “Hisar” Projects, vertical firing was accomplished for the first time and the 360-degree protection feature was successfully tested. The tests of Hisar (Unique Low / Medium Altitude Air Defense Missile System) were performed in Aksaray by Aselsan and Roketsan with the participation of representatives from the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries and Turkish Armed Forces. “Hisar” will play an important role in Turkey’s air defense capability. The radar, command-control / firing control, electro-optic and communication components of Hisar Systems also took place for the first time in the campaign where the control and guidance capabilities of the high-maneuvered “Hisar” missiles were successfully tested. Thus, significant progress was achieved in the system-level integration and tests. The target detection/tracking, command control/firing tests as well as interim phase guidance tests were successfully performed.

The Low Altitude Air Defense Missile System (Hisar-A) and Medium Range Air Defense Missile System (Hisar-O) provides the capability to destroy fixed and rotary wing aircrafts, cruise missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles and air to ground missiles.

For air defense of mobile units and critical facilities, “Hisar-A” was designed to defuse fixed and rotary wing aircrafts, cruise missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles and air to ground missiles at a range up to 15 km.

“Hisar-A” consists of the Self-Propelled Autonomous Low Altitude Air Defense Missile System, Missile Launching System, Low Altitude Missile that can be launched both from “Hisar-A” and “Hisar-O” Systems, and Missile Carriage and Load System.

For the air defense of mobile units and critical facilities, “Hisar-O” was designed to defuse fixed and rotary wing aircrafts, cruise missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles and air to ground missiles up to a range of 25 km.

Due to its distributed architecture “Hisar-O” has the advantage of flexible deployment and includes a Fire Control System, Missile Launching System, Medium Altitude Missile, Medium Altitude Air Defense Radar, Electro-Optical System, Link-16 System, and Missile Carriage and Load System.

Aselsan is the main contractor responsible for system solutions in “Hisar” Low and Medium Altitude Air Defense Missile System Projects. In this context, the determination of system and subsystem requirements, as well as solutions such as communication, radar, electro-optics, fire control, command control, data link for missile interim phase guidance, seekers for terminal guidance are under the responsibility of Aselsan. Roketsan is carrying out the missile development activity which is one of the important components of “Hisar” systems.

“Hisar” is being developed together with more than a hundred local solution partners, mainly TÜBİTAK SAGE, Meteksan Defense, FNSS, Koluman, Savronik, YALTES and SDT.
http://www.defenceturkey.com/en/content/vertical-firing-test-accomplished-in-hisar-projects-2904

Aselsan Anti-Tank Missile Launching System (MLS)

KORNET-E configuration

Another configuration for Shershen anti-tank missile

 

[Oublious]

HISAR-O

HISAR-A

Vertical Firing Test Accomplished in “Hisar” Projects
In the December issue of the Aselsan magazine, it was announced that the subsystem integration test activities within the scope of “Hisar” Projects have been completed and system level development and test process has been initiated
Within the scope of “Hisar” Projects, vertical firing was accomplished for the first time and the 360-degree protection feature was successfully tested. The tests of Hisar (Unique Low / Medium Altitude Air Defense Missile System) were performed in Aksaray by Aselsan and Roketsan with the participation of representatives from the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries and Turkish Armed Forces. “Hisar” will play an important role in Turkey’s air defense capability. The radar, command-control / firing control, electro-optic and communication components of Hisar Systems also took place for the first time in the campaign where the control and guidance capabilities of the high-maneuvered “Hisar” missiles were successfully tested. Thus, significant progress was achieved in the system-level integration and tests. The target detection/tracking, command control/firing tests as well as interim phase guidance tests were successfully performed.

The Low Altitude Air Defense Missile System (Hisar-A) and Medium Range Air Defense Missile System (Hisar-O) provides the capability to destroy fixed and rotary wing aircrafts, cruise missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles and air to ground missiles.

For air defense of mobile units and critical facilities, “Hisar-A” was designed to defuse fixed and rotary wing aircrafts, cruise missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles and air to ground missiles at a range up to 15 km.

“Hisar-A” consists of the Self-Propelled Autonomous Low Altitude Air Defense Missile System, Missile Launching System, Low Altitude Missile that can be launched both from “Hisar-A” and “Hisar-O” Systems, and Missile Carriage and Load System.

For the air defense of mobile units and critical facilities, “Hisar-O” was designed to defuse fixed and rotary wing aircrafts, cruise missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles and air to ground missiles up to a range of 25 km.

Due to its distributed architecture “Hisar-O” has the advantage of flexible deployment and includes a Fire Control System, Missile Launching System, Medium Altitude Missile, Medium Altitude Air Defense Radar, Electro-Optical System, Link-16 System, and Missile Carriage and Load System.

Aselsan is the main contractor responsible for system solutions in “Hisar” Low and Medium Altitude Air Defense Missile System Projects. In this context, the determination of system and subsystem requirements, as well as solutions such as communication, radar, electro-optics, fire control, command control, data link for missile interim phase guidance, seekers for terminal guidance are under the responsibility of Aselsan. Roketsan is carrying out the missile development activity which is one of the important components of “Hisar” systems.

“Hisar” is being developed together with more than a hundred local solution partners, mainly TÜBİTAK SAGE, Meteksan Defense, FNSS, Koluman, Savronik, YALTES and SDT.
http://www.defenceturkey.com/en/content/vertical-firing-test-accomplished-in-hisar-projects-2904

Aselsan Anti-Tank Missile Launching System (MLS)

KORNET-E configuration

Another configuration for Shershen anti-tank missile

Gordunuz mu leynnn....more more more...

 

[Bismarck]

I think the Russian SAMs have different names and numbers for export but I dont know if they are really dumbed down.

But no evidence, just pure speculation.