Turkey's Strategic Power Projection by 2023

[atatwolf]

How can the Othuman Empire return when there is no ancestor of them involved?
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There are descendants of the Osman family but they are in exile in the UK:

These so-called AKPians who claim to be "Ottoman" are village peasants thinking they are royal blood. They don't understand that Ottoman Empire was a Sultanate comparable to a monarchy. Without the Ottoman family you can't rebuild anything but the thing is the Ottoman family is neither Muslim nor can they speak Turkish. I'm against AKP who is using outdated concepts for the modern day world.

The previous saudi king feared the alliance between Morsi and Erdogan so he tried so hard to get rid of Morsi.

The current King is better than the previous , he wants to repair what the previous has damaged .. more ties with Turkey and trying to fix the problem with Muslim Brotherhood.

you heard the Leaks of Sisi ? his phone calls? he mocks gulf countries calling them half countries and bags of money.

Turkey and Egypt are the biggest Muslim countries in the Middle-east. I believe if Turkey/Egypt didn't jeopardize relations we would have solved the Syrian crises years ago.

 

[Full Moon]

I never criticized his economic policies to begin with. But a country is not only about economics. It's some of his domestic and foreign policies that are of concern and importance. 'Zero problem with neighbors'? That worked perfectly.

And it's quite funny, seeing some Saudis supporting Erdogan, while they hate the crap out of Morsi, which was Erdogan of Egypt, and supported the coup that toppled him by all means. Strange bedfellows indeed.

I am not quite supportive of Erdogan simply because I don't know much about Turkish politics. He could be either good or bad, I don't know. As a Saudi myself, it is not really my business whether Turkey prospers or not. But if I were a Turk, I would have some gratefulness towards him, and would't really care what he does in Egypt or elsewhere. After all, it is not easy to trigger economic development in our region.

 

[Total Destruction]

Turkey and Egypt are the biggest Muslim countries in the Middle-east. I believe if Turkey/Egypt didn't jeopardize relations we would have solved the Syrian crises years ago.

Ah , That's what we all wish .. but that Coup destroyed every wish of ours for a developed Egypt with Great ties with Turkey...
I still remember anka UAV deal , we were the first to get it during Morsi era , 10 Anka with transfer of Technology.

 

[TurkeyForever]

Most don't know or care ... however this treaty is behind much of the mess we see in middle east today. It's a tragedy that people don't know how what they see now came about.

No are those leaks on youtube with english text/voice?

Is there a hate in Egypt against Turkey for supporting muslim brotherhood?
Whats your stance?

 

[Genghis khan1]

I can't help but think what is going on around Turkey now has to do with the treaty of lousanne which expires in 2023, it will give Turkey legal right to take oil fields in north Iraq and some parts of North Syria and Thrace in Greece.

When the treaty of lousanne expires in 2023 what do you think will happen?

Found this:

Notes on a Turkish Conspiracy | Foreign Policy

Then there is the contract with Russia about the straits but think that will expire later.

To be called modern day Ottoman Empire Turkey needs two things.
1) Religion:
Turkey can't move forward in lead position within Islamic countries as a secular state.
2) Military power:
Turkey military is making progress but Nukes, Satellite navigation system and long range power projection (i.e. ICBMs, nuclear Subs and Aircraft carriers) are must to be called power or an empire.

 

[Indus Falcon]

To be called modern day Ottoman Empire Turkey needs two things.
1) Religion:
Turkey can't move forward in lead position within Islamic countries as a secular state.
2) Military power:
Turkey military is making progress but Nukes, Satellite navigation system and long range power projection (i.e. ICBMs, nuclear Subs and Aircraft carriers) are must to be called power or an empire.

And spy / telco sats by the dozens.

 

[mpk1988]

There are descendants of the Osman family but they are in exile in the UK:

These so-called AKPians who claim to be "Ottoman" are village peasants thinking they are royal blood. They don't understand that Ottoman Empire was a Sultanate comparable to a monarchy. Without the Ottoman family you can't rebuild anything but the thing is the Ottoman family is neither Muslim nor can they speak Turkish..

Interesting info man. Thanks for the share.

 

[TurkeyForever]

To be called modern day Ottoman Empire Turkey needs two things.
1) Religion:
Turkey can't move forward in lead position within Islamic countries as a secular state.
2) Military power:
Turkey military is making progress but Nukes, Satellite navigation system and long range power projection (i.e. ICBMs, nuclear Subs and Aircraft carriers) are must to be called power or an empire.

Ottoman empire had freedom of religion, every region/religion had it's own leaders.

I don't think an islamic turkish empire is good. What about christians, jews and atheists?

We need to respect everyone those times are over, we need a democratic empire like the US.

 

[thepakistani]

Future prospects of Turkey seems definitely strong that's the basic reasons for bomb blasts in Turkey, takesim squre (love park) rites. Intelligence agencies of our enemies assess much earlier and plan to derail doing the criminal activities as Pakistan is facing from a decade. But any how the future of Pakistan is very very strong and similarly our brother Turkey. About 10 billion $ were spent to dismantle Pakistan but Alhamdollilah Pakistan is ever stronger.

 

[Falcon29]

I don't think an islamic turkish empire is good. .

And neither is an empire exclusive to a single nationality. You ethnicity freaks annoy the **** out of me.

 

[TurkeyForever]

And neither is an empire exclusive to a single nationality. You ethnicity freaks annoy the **** out of me.

Is that why you can't convert to an Israeli?

 

[Sine Nomine]

Inshallah brother, Inshallah. Erdogan has put the Sultanate on a right path. Only 8 more years.

yup...Zions made sure through Kamal that Turks or Muslim never rise again in ME.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Ottoman empire had freedom of religion, every region/religion had it's own leaders.

I don't think an islamic turkish empire is good. What about christians, jews and atheists?

We need to respect everyone those times are over, we need a democratic empire like the US.

Respect every religion but never forget your religious identity, US is predominantly a christian nation. Although it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of religion or race in US, but happens quite often. I heard ottomans were a very tolerant society despite being officially a Muslim empire. Turkey can be a strong nation but they can never be an empire without religious identity. An empire needs Allies, Turkish leadership have realized that it time to look east. No matter how secular Europeans say they are, they will always have religious and historical animosity with Turks. Remember, it was the rise of nationalism that lead to the disintegration of Ottoman at the first place.

And spy / telco sats by the dozens.

Yap, Strong intelligence network is a must. Aside from Spy satellites, Pakistan (ISI) do have very strong human intelligence network. I bet Turks can get some help from Pakistan to build their Nuclear and Intelligence capability.

 

[indianBong]

Inshallah brother, Inshallah. Erdogan has put the Sultanate on a right path. Only 8 more years.

Sorry to bother you...sir, One thing i didnt get, you are a liberal democratic nation... so sultanate means you want to deviate from democracy or being liberal??

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

No are those leaks on youtube with english text/voice?

Is there a hate in Egypt against Turkey for supporting muslim brotherhood?
Whats your stance?

I'm talking about Treaty of Lausanne.