Turkey's Strategic Power Projection by 2023

[Genghis khan1]

You are giving lessons what Pakistanis can do and what not. We are ready to do anything for our country and not for Ummah crap. You are sitting in America, please fight with them on behalf of your muslim brothers. Spare us Pakistanis.

You are giving lessons what Pakistanis can do and what not. We are ready to do anything for our country and not for Ummah crap. You are sitting in America, please fight with them on behalf of your muslim brothers. Spare us Pakistanis.

Did I mention ummah?!? , I was talking about caliber and will of an average Pakistani. You are one of those Chai people who talks all day about conquering the world but would not sacrifice their cup of tea. All talk No Walk. I am glad, you are the minority few and Pakistani nation and defense establishment as a whole don't think like this.

 

[Genghis khan1]

you claimed that pakistanis faught in all these places so i asked out of these regions where did you (pakistan) achieved any success ?

OK, Special kind. I am baffled by your intelligence level . I already stated, individual went on their own, not as a state or government sponsored. Nonetheless, let me try to answer you.

Since you are so eager as an Indian. Let's analyze theaters where Pakistan supported covertly.
Bosnia: War of Freedom successful. (Pakistan provided training and Airlifted ATGM for fighters against international pressure.)
Afghanistan: Soviet defeat. Creation of many Muslim states in central Asia. ( Weapons, Training and covert Special ops)
Syria: Saudis requested, Pakistan refused to enter or train, but Pakistan might be selling weapons to Saudis for their adventure.
Yemen: Same story as Syria.
Kashmir: Give rise to freedom struggle. Agenda is back on UN table. Upto 700,000 Indian troop were stuck fighting an insurgency during 90s. During Kargil conflict, India had to withdraw it main battle units from International border to reinforce Kashmir sector. Giving Pakistan open door to enter main land India. Pakistan had India by it's neck. Even Indian Generals got court-martial after Kargil blunder.

 

[LegionnairE]

One would think that monarchy would be against religion since it indicates being property of a monarch other than god.

apparently not
apparently there are those among us who can't handle being equal citizens and desire to live in a monarchy (again)

I have no words for them other than that I find them despicable


Also
NO, treaty of lausanne doesn't have an expiration date
idiots

 

[-SINAN-]

I can't help but think what is going on around Turkey now has to do with the treaty of lousanne which expires in 2023, it will give Turkey legal right to take oil fields in north Iraq and some parts of North Syria and Thrace in Greece.

When the treaty of lousanne expires in 2023 what do you think will happen?

Found this:

Notes on a Turkish Conspiracy | Foreign Policy

Then there is the contract with Russia about the straits but think that will expire later.

No such thing as "the treaty of lousanne which expires in 2023" this is the rubbish of some lunatic guys of the internet.
And you are not doing good by carrying that rubbish into our forum.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

No such thing as "the treaty of lousanne which expires in 2023" this is the rubbish of some lunatic guys of the internet.
And you are not doing good by carrying that rubbish into our forum.

If you read the article I think it makes it very clear. Basically it says that certain people in Turkey are using it to malign Erdogan and AKP mainly the secular Turks.

 

[Timur]

letme make it clear.. turkey will never face ottoman empire again this would mean to give the power back to the ancestors of ottoman empire (forget your dreams about golden age with real sultan and big empire of old days)..

no one who is on power will give their power away.. never..

these ancestors of ottoman empire - man look at them they seem to be normal europeans not like me not like many turks in turkey (yeah we have some ppl look like europeans like izmir region because of mixture with greek and makedonian or lesser like some bosnian or black see region with caucasian ppl ) I do not wanna have those euro ottomans as kings in my country..

the past was glorious but nowadays its sad to see that they went astray.. they are now an excample of what you do not have to become..

and I do not belive we will have everything needed ready until 2023 maybe a dacade later.. if ww3 does not fck all up..

also we will never NEVER EVER REALLY NEVER see something like Turkistan or whatever.. if you ask why then just imagine how turkey ppl treat turkish ppl abroad and how they see them lesser citizen or just as wallet.. with this ppl you wont see anything except what you see nowadays in turkey.. they wont get any step ahead with this brain..

without peace and unity dont think about such dreams..


in 2023 we will be more indegenious and better nothing special

 

[UkroTurk]

 

[UkroTurk]

We have members like you who are more stranger and more green than marsian girls , so your marsian girls werent interesting.
Do you think; TAI can never launch to space?
What is the space and where does it start?
Tai and Aselsan never start projects which can not finish.

 

[TurkeyForever]

We have members like you who are more stranger and more green than marsian girls , so your marsian girls werent interesting.
Do you think; TAI can never launch to space?
What is the space and where does it start?
Tai and Aselsan never start projects which can not finish.

I'm just joking of course we can finish these projects.

If we finish this next step will be to send Recep Ivedik to space, we Turks don't use monkeys

 

[aziqbal]

If Turkey what power projection I think they will have to add one more LHD

The Aussies have two x LHD similar to what Turkey is going to get but Aussies also have 3 x DDG under build

Turkey is a good few years behind with its programme they need to speed things up a bit

Eventually with the LCT, LST and LHD escorted by FFG they could form a powerful amphibious assault group but this will require lots of training with those new warships

Check out the RAN LHD fleet this is what Turkey should have now not in 10 years time

Plus having two units will ensure one MEU is always available 24/7