Turkey's Erdogan warns patience will run out on Syria

[Serpentine]

The people were on the streets to demand free elections and what happened?
Assad used soldiers and snipers to kill many protestors.
You know as wel as i do that if Assad would have called for free elections ,non of this mess would have happened.
After killing so many,he asks for elections and people should accept it?
Are you ok?
To Erdogan,we know he fvcked up bigtime and there is nothing we(the people) can do to get out of this mess.
We will just wait and see whats in future for my country and people but we will never go down without a fight or surrender.

On the fifth day of 'peaceful' protests, a government building was torched down and 5 policemen killed in Syria. The 'all peaceful' protests are nothing but a hoax. Assad lifted state of emergency after 30 years in 2011, phased out singe party ruling in Syria and offered direct talks to opposition. But the only thing other side was demanding was Assad's head and Allawites to all be killed. You simply don't continue to talk with such 'peaceful opposition'. Funny thing is, Turkey itself is cracking down on armed Kurds in its country (who also happened to have many peaceful protests in past century), but expects Syrian gov to send flowers to them. Hypocrite at its best. No one buys this 'peaceful protests art at beginning' BS anymore.

 

[T-123456]

(who also happened to have many peaceful protests in past century),

You shouldnt talk about things you know nothing of,the PKK never protested peacefully.
Take a look at history before cpommenting.
Dont lecture me on Syria,im not biased like you are.

 

[Serpentine]

You shouldnt talk about things you know nothing of,the PKK never protested peacefully.
Take a look at history before cpommenting.

Kurds did, didn't they? I didn't talk about PKK on peaceful protests.
If someone pick up arms against state to kill soldiers just 5 days after 'peaceful protests' they are not peaceful anymore.

Dont lecture me on Syria,im not biased like you are.

The last thing you are is unbiased, on Syrian issue mainly. If I am biased, so you are.

 

[Uhuhu]

The people were on the streets to demand free elections and what happened?
Assad used soldiers and snipers to kill many protestors.
You know as wel as i do that if Assad would have called for free elections ,non of this mess would have happened.
After killing so many,he asks for elections and people should accept it?
Are you ok?
To Erdogan,we know he fvcked up bigtime and there is nothing we(the people) can do to get out of this mess.
We will just wait and see whats in future for my country and people but we will never go down without a fight or surrender.

no one claims the regime is innocent and had not done any mistake or crime, as no government in the world is.
about protesters, its a very interesting that those you call them people were saying, "Christians to Lebanon, allavis to grave". they are islamist extermists, of course there are many people who were opposite to assad including sunnis, shias, alavis, christians and ... but they didnt take gun from neighbors and start to ruin the country, as you dont do against erdogan and told me you are just waiting and as much as you are against erdogan, you never take gun and destroy turkey.

why any minority include of christians,Druzes, lets assume half of sunnis and .. are supporting regime and didnt join to those freedom fighters??

when you stop terrorists who try to destabilize your country, you dont call it killing people, right?
those akhavanis and extermists are part of syrian people as pkk members are part of turkey people. so if you believe in the regime were killing people, we can cliam same about slaughtering kurds by turkish government.

we are hope that turkey also will remain safe and making progress day by day.

 

[T-123456]

no one claims the regime is innocent and had not done any mistake or crime, as no government in the world is.
about protesters, its a very interesting that those you call them people were saying, "Christians to Lebanon, allavis to grave". they are islamist extermists, of course there are many people who were opposite to assad including sunnis, shias, alavis, christians and ... but they didnt take gun from neighbors and start to ruin the country, as you dont do against erdogan and told me you are just waiting and as much as you are against erdogan, you never take gun and destroy turkey.

why any minority include of christians,Druzes, lets assume half of sunnis and .. are supporting regime and didnt join to those freedom fighters??

when you stop terrorists who try to destabilize your country, you dont call it killing people, right?
those akhavanis and extermists are part of syrian people as pkk members are part of turkey people. so if you believe in the regime were killing people, we can cliam same about slaughtering kurds by turkish government.

we are hope that turkey also will remain safe and making progress day by day.

There is a big difference between Turkiye and Syria,the PKK is there for almost 40 years now,the Syrian protest began a couple of years ago and it was more then 60% of the population compared to the 3 mil PKK supporters in Turkiye,remember the ''Arab spring''),there was never a Kurdish spring,most Kurds(80%) dont care for the PKK.
See the difference?
Im not saying that ISIS and al-Caida and all the other sunni extremists should take over,the moderate opposition should get the chance to live in a free Syria,look at the over 6 million people fleeing the country because of Assad and to some extent of sunni extremists.
My country has 2,5 mil refugees,why,because of ISIS and other extremists in Syria or mostly because of the Assad regime?
There are no angels in Syria but lesser devils.
Assad could have prevented all this by calling for free elections when the protests started,he didnt,he opted for oppression which resulted in this mess.
You are right about neighbours the involved in Syria,we all(you to) should have stayed out,the UN should have done something but its to late now.

 

[Uhuhu]

There is a big difference between Turkiye and Syria,the PKK is there for almost 40 years now,the Syrian protest began a couple of years ago and it was more then 60% of the population compared to the 3 mil PKK supporters in Turkiye,remember the ''Arab spring''),there was never a Kurdish spring,most Kurds(80%) dont care for the PKK.
See the difference?
Im not saying that ISIS and al-Caida and all the other sunni extremists should take over,the moderate opposition should get the chance to live in a free Syria,look at the over 6 million people fleeing the country because of Assad and to some extent of sunni extremists.
My country has 2,5 mil refugees,why,because of ISIS and other extremists in Syria or mostly because of the Assad regime?
There are no angels in Syria but lesser devils.
Assad could have prevented all this by calling for free elections when the protests started,he didnt,he opted for oppression which resulted in this mess.
You are right about neighbours the involved in Syria,we all(you to) should have stayed out,the UN should have done something but its to late now.

its your statistic and claim. you considered only 20% of kurds who support pkk and meanwhile considered 100% of sunnis in syria who support opposition?
if it was 60% of the population. syrian government has no chance to remain. all big cities and most populated area are in the control of the syrian government and meanwhile the army is in the front lines, so by your claim, syrian government would have no forces to keep control all those areas.

and i should again repeat that, attacking to governmental buildings, killing security forces and people in first days , saying " Christians to Lebanon and alavis to grave" doesnt mean they are moderate opposition and it is a peaceful protest and they are demanding democracy. where are the others? christians and Druzes if its a fight for freedom?

please show me the location of those moderate oppositions in the map.

 

[T-123456]

please show me the location of those moderate oppositions in the map.

Thanks to you and your Russian buddies,the last stronghold Aleppo is almost falling,Iran gained the most in this,we dont need to play games,you know as wel as i do that we differ in opinions and non of us will chance our views about Syria.

its your statistic and claim. you considered only 20% of kurds who support pkk and meanwhile considered 100% of sunnis in syria who support opposition?

I never claimed 100% of the sunni's support the opposition,i claimed 60 % of the population ,see how you made it into a sectarian issue?

christians and Druzes if its a fight for freedom

Christians fled to Europe,many are here in the Netherlands,i talked to many Christians here from Syria and Iraq,do you want me to tell you what Iranian backed or sent Shia militias did to there families,you up for that?,how they burned his mother and cutt his brother into pieces just because they were Christians?
Bro,you know i respect you so lets just cutt the crap and admit that your mullah regime and its sneaky ways have won this game called Syria.
You should be thankful to Erdogan for giving you the opportunity and the chance.

 

[madmusti]

Let´s talk about some facts:

- Turkey has opened his Borders to the Refugees and has over 2 millions of them in their Country and helping them
- Where is India ? Iran ? and all others ? Some of them don´t want them and stated this officially !
- Turkey has done is job on Humanism and will do it further !

So as result we have only one question here:


What the others have done for the Refugees ?

 

[MoshteAhani]

Let´s talk about some facts:

- Turkey has opened his Borders to the Refugees and has over 2 millions of them in their Country and helping them
- Where is India ? Iran ? and all others ? Some of them don´t want them and stated this officially !
- Turkey has done is job on Humanism and will do it further !

So as result we have only one question here:


What the others have done for the Refugees ?

Syria is far away from Iran otherwise we would host Syrian refugees. Also Iran is in the top 3 in the world in recieving refugees from war-torn countries, just google it.

 

[SBD-3]

Syria is far away from Iran otherwise we would host Syrian refugees.

Well Iran is far nearer to Syria than Europe.

Also Iran is in the top 3 in the world in recieving refugees from war-torn countries, just google it.Also Iran is in the top 3 in the world in recieving refugees from war-torn countries, just google it.

And they are putting these refugees to great use
Afghan refugees in Iran being sent to fight and die for Assad in Syria | World news | The Guardian

 

[like_a_boss]

My country has 2,5 mil refugees,why,because of ISIS and other extremists in Syria or mostly because of the Assad regime?

your country has 2.5 million refugees because of strategic depth policy, go fool someone else

 

[MoshteAhani]

Well Iran is far nearer to Syria than Europe.

Ask the refugees why they like to go to Germany instead of Iran

And they are putting these refugees to great use
Afghan refugees in Iran being sent to fight and die for Assad in Syria | World news | The Guardian

Nationality doesn't matter, Iranian civilians also go to defend Shia shrines so whats the big deal ?

 

[SBD-3]

Ask the refugees why they like to go to Germany instead of Iran

Maybe because they know that one fine morning they'll be sent back to fight by Iran. Or Iran doesn't accept any refugees.

Nationality doesn't matter, Iranian civilians also go to defend Shia shrines so whats the big deal ?

I didn't hear any Iranian getting casualty other than revolutionary guards.Most of the deadbodies are either buried in Syria or shipped back to Pakistan/Afghanistan/Iraq/Tajikistan/Lebnon with complementary coffins. If Iranians/Saudis are to send their own civilians and armies to fight then whats the use of investments on sectarian propaganda and nurturing proxies?

 

[MoshteAhani]

Maybe because they know that one fine morning they'll be sent back to fight by Iran. Or Iran doesn't accept any refugees.

Maybe they know that in Germany the accomodations are much better and recieve free money ? Its Germany So while our borders are open to refugees go and force them to change their routes to EU to Iran.

I didn't hear any Iranian getting casualty other than revolutionary guards.

Army is not involved,IRGC forces are not involved, Airforce are not involved, navy is not involved, special forces are not involved.

What is involved in Syria is intelligence units and voluntary shia militias (they might be active IRGC personnel or retired but mostly they are just average religious citizens).

If we deployed thousands of IRGC or the army the war would be over.

 

[SBD-3]

Maybe they know that in Germany the accomodations are much better and recieve free money ? Its Germany So while our borders are open to refugees go and force them to change their routes to EU to Iran.

Well I am yet to see a statement from Iran on accepting either Syrians or even Iraqis.

Army is not involved,IRGC forces are not involved, Airforce are not involved, navy is not involved, special forces are not involved.

What is involved in Syria is intelligence units and voluntary shia militias (they might be active IRGC personnel or retired).

If we deployed thousands of IRGC or the army the war would be over.

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I don't know about war getting over or not, it would become more direct and we'll know who's who and what's what for sure.

If syrian rebels are mujahideens then houthi rebels are also mujahideens. And plz do send your forces to syria and resolve this iran vs saudia problem once and for all.

You're mixing Syria rebels with ISIS, the same mistake US/Turkey/Saudis have been doing and now paying the price for that. FSA is not ISIS but will eventually merge into it if kept suppressing. Its just like Mcdonald losing sales and then Handing over the premises to larger and more stronger KFC. FSA is the first priority of Asad regime rather than ISIS because by her acts of brutality and naked extremism, ISIS is actually earning them a goodwill value.So they can focus on eliminating the primary threat i.e. FSA.